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Quoted message said:Kim said:
And you've been asked how anyone could possibly stop
AIDS from spreading in Africa. How does the rest of the
world stop these unfortunate people
Quoted message said:"Those unfortunate people" are our brother and sister
human beings.
I didn't say they weren't. You didn't answer the question as
to how it can be stopped in Africa.
Quoted message said:They do need access to condoms, they do need education as
to safe practices, and they do sometimes need an antidote
to wrong or harmful church teachings which say that they
should not even mention the word "condoms".
And who will do this? Who will go into these villages and
re-teach them
know the men there do not take kindly to using condoms. I
remember a few shows regarding condoms and birth-control re'
Africa. Remember, you're
having part of their genitals removed as children. A
disgusting, bloody, often fatal surgery done with filthy
scissors and no anesthesia. These
lives. These are extremely primitive people. How would one
persuade them to use condoms when you can't persuade them to
abandon such a cruel, barbaric practice on their own women?
Where is the money coming from? Who would fund something so
huge and so expensive? What nation could afford it?
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:other than their wives.
Quoted message said:I've heard that happens in the US, the UK, through Europe
and Australasia,
b.i.o.n.
Did anyone say it didn't? Those nations have access to
condoms and meds for AIDS. The African men don't. Do you
have a plan to stop the men of Africa from doing this and so
slow the spread of AIDS?
Quoted message said:Please stop trying to suggest that they are somehow
inherently more promiscuous in comparison to, say, the US,
because I believe that is not the case for the ordinary
young people. Again, they live with daily problems such as
hunger, malnutrition, extreme poverty, and other diseases
such as malaria.
Please stop reading more into my posts than is there.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:How do we force them not to be unfaithful on their
mates? How do we force them to wear condoms?
Quoted message said:When it was explained to them and the condoms were there,
they understood immediately and would use them if
available. People adjust their
behaviour
Quoted message said:according to what they know and learn. And there are many
who _are_ totally monogamous and are faithful to their
spouse all their life (and obviously more of those are the
ones who remain uninfected today), but who is going to
protect their children, and the many orphans of siblings
that each family now carries?
I don't know. Most nations have so many problems of their
own. Our own Foster Care system is a mess here in the USA.
We have more children available than people who want them.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:How do we get the condoms to them, and who pays for the
billions of condoms they'll need now and in the future?
Quoted message said:At a governmental level, when it was thought that
dangerous biological agents were lurking elsewhere, such
as could cause widespread disease and devastation, cost
was not an issue. Forces were mobilised; the problem was
addressed. (3-4 billion US per month, currently). Same
attitude should apply here, where a deadly biological
agent is destroying several
countries
Quoted message said:very rapidly.
Are you saying the USA taxpayer should shoulder the burden?
Do you realize how much taxes we all pay now and how many
homeless and desperately poor we have to worry about right
HERE at home? Why don't you contact the Chinese or Japanese
consulates.... check out some other rich nations and see if
they can afford billions to aid Africa. The USA is about
tapped out - or are you suggesting we should have spent the
money in Africa and allowed the terrorists to keep attacking
and killing us?
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:How about the African Nations themselves doing something
about the problem?
Quoted message said:In those countries where one in three (in at least one
country it is now 40% - almost every second adult other
than the very old) has HIV in some form, and where they
have also been through famines and other
challenges, -
Quoted message said:in some of those places they can't do it on their own.
Where entire families are gone, leaving children only, -
if the problem is going to be addressed there has to be
help from outside, from those nations and people who are
able to help.
You're not talking about a one shot deal here, but the
taxpayers providing drugs for a LIFETIME for millions of
people. We can't afford that. What nation can?
Quoted message said:Only, try and understand, and keep on trying to understand
what it means for the people who are there and who are
going through this.
Of course we know and understand but we can't do anything
about it - no more than we can stop the cruel mutilation of
the little girls in Africa to please some man who's still
living in the stone age. Africa is an ever smoldering
cauldron of wars, disease, starvation and suffering. We
can't save everyone.....
Quoted message said:To not dismiss them as people who are somehow inferior, or
as people who don't count as humans.
Of course they count - but the problems there are not
easily solved.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Stop blaming the well fed countries for a plague we have
no control
over.
Quoted message said:Who apparently have little control over their own
plague, either,
according
Quoted message said:to this: www.medscape.com/viewarticle/470991?mpid=26270
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