Troll: Is it time to ask about Perdiguero?

[Kenny]

Became pro in '97 at the age of 24 which is late. Won 15 little races
in 7 years. Now all of a sudden almost at the age of 32, he wins 8
respectable/big races in 6 months, he can sprint, TT and climb and
enters the UCI top-10. A little to obvious if you ask me.


Kenny

 

[Davide Tosi]

[email protected] (Kenny) wrote:

>Became pro in '97 at the age of 24 which is late. Won 15 little races
>in 7 years. Now all of a sudden almost at the age of 32, he wins 8
>respectable/big races in 6 months, he can sprint, TT and climb and
>enters the UCI top-10. A little to obvious if you ask me.

Since the first time I saw him racing in the Giro a few years ago, I
thought he was an underachiever. His potential was clearly much bigger than
what his results showed. A guy that could climb and sprint like he already
did should have won much more than that.
I think his problem was mainly psychological, a runner-up syndrome, like
the one that Casagrande always had at an higher level.
This year at Saunier-Duval MAMP found a new trainer who firmly believed in
him and gave him the trustfullness he never had before. MAMP explained this
also in some of his Saturaday's post race interviews. He also said that if
and whenever he's going to change team, that trainer (whose name now
escapes me) is ever going to be with him. That's the key to his recent
success. Never forget that mental is a huge part of cycling.

 

[John Forrest Tomlinson]

On 9 Aug 2004 03:18:09 -0700, [email protected] (Kenny) wrote:

>Became pro in '97 at the age of 24 which is late. Won 15 little races
>in 7 years. Now all of a sudden almost at the age of 32, he wins 8
>respectable/big races in 6 months, he can sprint, TT and climb and
>enters the UCI top-10. A little to obvious if you ask me.

I guess I'm dense. What is obvious?

JT

 

[HB]

"John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email protected]> skrev i en meddelelse
news:[email protected]...
> On 9 Aug 2004 03:18:09 -0700, [email protected] (Kenny) wrote:
>
> >Became pro in '97 at the age of 24 which is late. Won 15 little races
> >in 7 years. Now all of a sudden almost at the age of 32, he wins 8
> >respectable/big races in 6 months, he can sprint, TT and climb and
> >enters the UCI top-10. A little to obvious if you ask me.
>
> I guess I'm dense. What is obvious?
>
> JT

That he was the only clean rider back in the day when all the rest were
doping. Now they too are clean (or are not testet positive) and so he
competes at equal terms....and wins !

HB

 

[Kenny]

[email protected] (Davide Tosi) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> [email protected] (Kenny) wrote:
>
> >Became pro in '97 at the age of 24 which is late. Won 15 little races
> >in 7 years. Now all of a sudden almost at the age of 32, he wins 8
> >respectable/big races in 6 months, he can sprint, TT and climb and
> >enters the UCI top-10. A little to obvious if you ask me.
>
> Since the first time I saw him racing in the Giro a few years ago, I
> thought he was an underachiever. His potential was clearly much bigger than
> what his results showed. A guy that could climb and sprint like he already
> did should have won much more than that.
> I think his problem was mainly psychological, a runner-up syndrome, like
> the one that Casagrande always had at an higher level.
> This year at Saunier-Duval MAMP found a new trainer who firmly believed in
> him and gave him the trustfullness he never had before. MAMP explained this
> also in some of his Saturaday's post race interviews. He also said that if
> and whenever he's going to change team, that trainer (whose name now
> escapes me) is ever going to be with him. That's the key to his recent
> success. Never forget that mental is a huge part of cycling.

Yes, but having a "good" trainer is an even bigger pat of cycling. If
you know what i mean.

 

[Kenny]

John Forrest Tomlinson <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On 9 Aug 2004 03:18:09 -0700, [email protected] (Kenny) wrote:
>
> >Became pro in '97 at the age of 24 which is late. Won 15 little races
> >in 7 years. Now all of a sudden almost at the age of 32, he wins 8
> >respectable/big races in 6 months, he can sprint, TT and climb and
> >enters the UCI top-10. A little to obvious if you ask me.
>
> I guess I'm dense. What is obvious?
>
> JT

As we say over here: there is **** on the marble. Something isn't quite right.

 

[Richard Adams]

Kenny wrote:
> Became pro in '97 at the age of 24 which is late. Won 15 little races
> in 7 years. Now all of a sudden almost at the age of 32, he wins 8
> respectable/big races in 6 months, he can sprint, TT and climb and
> enters the UCI top-10. A little to obvious if you ask me.
>
>
> Kenny

What you see is Perdiguero see Bettini and Rebellin watching each other
and jumps when Bettini looks away. That he opened two bike lengths, yet
won by a wheel or so says he isn't the sprinter Bettini is and he caught
both of them looking. A rare and sweet victory, let's see what we can
do to take it away from him, eh?

 

[Richard Adams]

Kenny wrote:
> Became pro in '97 at the age of 24 which is late. Won 15 little races
> in 7 years. Now all of a sudden almost at the age of 32, he wins 8
> respectable/big races in 6 months, he can sprint, TT and climb and
> enters the UCI top-10. A little to obvious if you ask me.
>
>
> Kenny

What you see is Perdiguero see Bettini and Rebellin watching each other
and jumps when Bettini looks away. That he opened two bike lengths, yet
won by a wheel or so says he isn't the sprinter Bettini is and he caught
both of them looking. A rare and sweet victory, let's see what we can
do to take it away from him, eh?

 

[Kenny]

Richard Adams <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Kenny wrote:
> > Became pro in '97 at the age of 24 which is late. Won 15 little races
> > in 7 years. Now all of a sudden almost at the age of 32, he wins 8
> > respectable/big races in 6 months, he can sprint, TT and climb and
> > enters the UCI top-10. A little to obvious if you ask me.
> >
> >
> > Kenny
>
> What you see is Perdiguero see Bettini and Rebellin watching each other
> and jumps when Bettini looks away. That he opened two bike lengths, yet
> won by a wheel or so says he isn't the sprinter Bettini is and he caught
> both of them looking. A rare and sweet victory, let's see what we can
> do to take it away from him, eh?

It's not about winning this sprint. It's about his incredible
transformation in the last 6 months on, let's face it, a rather late
moment in his career

 

[Howard Kveck]

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Kenny) wrote:

> Richard Adams <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > Kenny wrote:
> > > Became pro in '97 at the age of 24 which is late. Won 15 little races
> > > in 7 years. Now all of a sudden almost at the age of 32, he wins 8
> > > respectable/big races in 6 months, he can sprint, TT and climb and
> > > enters the UCI top-10. A little to obvious if you ask me.
> > >
> > >
> > > Kenny
> >
> > What you see is Perdiguero see Bettini and Rebellin watching each other
> > and jumps when Bettini looks away. That he opened two bike lengths, yet
> > won by a wheel or so says he isn't the sprinter Bettini is and he caught
> > both of them looking. A rare and sweet victory, let's see what we can
> > do to take it away from him, eh?
>
> It's not about winning this sprint. It's about his incredible
> transformation in the last 6 months on, let's face it, a rather late
> moment in his career

His career hasn't been all that long, in spite of his age. I think this
is the biggest result for him, but if you scan through his palmares, he has
shown some speed in the past. In '02 and '03, he was riding for teams that
pretty much focused on Mario Cipollini, so that may have limited his
chances at getting results of his own.

http://www.trap-friis.dk/cykling/spanien.Martin.htm

--
tanx,
Howard

So far, so good, so what?

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