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  1. .... another twunt let off with a fine. And I know the magistrate... I feel a
    letter coming on...when I calm down...

    http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/News/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=News&tBrand=edponline&tCategory=news&itemid=NOED03%20Aug%202005%2009%3A00%3A35%3A973

    or..

    http://tinyurl.com/848lp

    Cheers, helen s

  2. "wafflycat" <waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    ... another twunt let off with a fine. And I know the magistrate... I feel
    a letter coming on...when I calm down...

    Yet another one today:

    http://www.thisishull.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=136536&command=displayContent&sourceNode=136263&home=yes&contentPK=12944688&localNewsNodeId=136245

    http://qurl.net/iI

    --
    Simon Mason
    http://www.simonmason.karoo.net

  3. wafflycat said:

    ... another twunt let off with a fine. And I know the magistrate... I
    feel a letter coming on...when I calm down...


    http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/News/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=News&tBrand=edponline&tCategory=news&itemid=NOED03%20Aug%202005%2009%3A00%3A35%3A973

    Quoted message said:


    or..

    http://tinyurl.com/848lp

    Never mind that, why didn't /I/ have a Ferrari when I was 18?

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    I have a shell collection, have you seen it? I keep it scattered on the
    world's beaches.

  4. wafflycat said:

    ... another twunt let off with a fine. And I know the magistrate... I feel a
    letter coming on...when I calm down...

    http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/News/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=News&tBrand=edponline&tCategory=news&itemid=NOED03%20Aug%202005%2009%3A00%3A35%3A973

    or..

    http://tinyurl.com/848lp

    Cheers, helen s

    Pity, though I'd have settled for a conditional driving ban that said
    she could only drive to the hospital and back with a passenger over 25
    🙂

    John Kane
    Kingston ON

  5. wafflycat said:

    ... another twunt let off with a fine. And I know the magistrate... I feel a
    letter coming on...when I calm down...

    http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/News/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=News&tBrand=edponline&tCategory=news&itemid=NOED03%20Aug%202005%2009%3A00%3A35%3A973

    Actually, I don't think it was such a bad decision. She sure as
    anything won't be risking any more points now.

    It would be a bit rough to curtail someones career for a first offence.
    And if you think that is lenient then maybe you can justify why six
    points and no disqualification would have been appropriate for a driver
    with two years more 'experience'.

    Bigger fine would have helped though, and community service.

    ...d

  6. David Martin said:
    wafflycat said:

    ... another twunt let off with a fine. And I know the magistrate...
    I feel a letter coming on...when I calm down...

    http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/News/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=News&tBrand=edponline&tCategory=news&itemid=NOED03%20Aug%202005%2009%3A00%3A35%3A973

    Actually, I don't think it was such a bad decision. She sure as
    anything won't be risking any more points now.

    It would be a bit rough to curtail someones career for a first
    offence. And if you think that is lenient then maybe you can justify
    why six points and no disqualification would have been appropriate
    for a driver with two years more 'experience'.

    Bigger fine would have helped though, and community service.

    I'm afraid I agree on both counts. Loss of the Ferrari would have been
    a suitable fine but in the circumstances where people get off a ban
    because it would mean they could not drive little Tamsin to school it
    would be grossly unfair to end her career. Just one point will end it
    now which means she will almost certainly have learnt a lesson.

    --
    Tony

    "I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
    Anon

  7. Tony Raven said:

    Just one point will end it
    now

    Unless she finds yet another Very Persuasive Lawyer, where no doubt
    she'll be given no points. Or someone else will have miraculously
    teleported into the driver's seat just before passing the speed camera.
    Or, etc, etc.

  8. "David Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Actually, I don't think it was such a bad decision. She sure as
    anything won't be risking any more points now.

    Really - can we be that sure? Or could it be that she gets another smooth
    talking, pursuasive legal shark to tell the court just how sorry she really,
    really is...??

    Quoted message said:

    It would be a bit rough to curtail someones career for a first offence.
    And if you think that is lenient then maybe you can justify why six
    points and no disqualification would have been appropriate for a driver
    with two years more 'experience'.

    This is not a equivalent of the hard-done-by-motorist who was "a few mph
    over the limit". I don't attempt to justify *any* of the stupidities
    surrounding the leniency of the legal 'profession'.

    Cheers, helen s

    Quoted message said:

    Bigger fine would have helped though, and community service.

    ..d

  9. Richard said:
    Tony Raven said:

    Just one point will end it
    now

    Unless she finds yet another Very Persuasive Lawyer, where no doubt
    she'll be given no points. Or someone else will have miraculously
    teleported into the driver's seat just before passing the speed camera.
    Or, etc, etc.


    That's possible, but unlikely.

    She must realise that if she does get herself into a points earning situation
    there's at least a chance she'll get banned and bye bye career.

    I would have thought that a racing driver would have the self discipline to obey
    the rules, provided she chooses to use that self discipline.

    Let's hope this was the wake up call that she apparantly needed.

  10. On 3 Aug 2005 06:42:42 -0700 someone who may be "David Martin"
    <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    It would be a bit rough to curtail someones career for a first offence.

    It would send a salutary lesson to others. Instead it tells them to
    try and find any excuse.

    --
    David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E
    I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government
    prevents me by using the RIP Act 2000.

  11. Steven said:

    I would have thought that a racing driver would have the self
    discipline to obey the rules, provided she chooses to use that self
    discipline.

    A read of the biography of almost any racing driver in the history of all
    things ever will swiftly disabuse you of /that/ outlandish notion...
    Especially Gerald Donaldson's biography of Gilles Villeneuve.

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    uck Wa

  12. Dave Larrington said:
    Steven said:

    I would have thought that a racing driver would have the self
    discipline to obey the rules, provided she chooses to use that self
    discipline.

    A read of the biography of almost any racing driver in the history of all
    things ever will swiftly disabuse you of /that/ outlandish notion...
    Especially Gerald Donaldson's biography of Gilles Villeneuve.

    I stand corrected.

    It's not an activity I have any interest in, but common sense would suggest that
    the drivers must have considerable self discipline.

    Damned unrelaible chap, common sense :-)

  13. "David Hansen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On 3 Aug 2005 06:42:42 -0700 someone who may be "David Martin"
    <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    It would be a bit rough to curtail someones career for a first offence.

    It would send a salutary lesson to others. Instead it tells them to
    try and find any excuse.

    --
    David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E
    I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government
    prevents me by using the RIP Act 2000.

    Do you actually need a driving licence to drive F1 cars on the track, I
    don't think you do.

  14. Jon_H said:

    Do you actually need a driving licence to drive F1 cars on the track,
    I don't think you do.

    Not sure about now, but back in the Old Days Stirling Moss had his road
    licence taken away in retaliation for what he described as "spirited
    cornering", which led to the automatic suspension of his racing licence as
    well.

    IIRC motorcycle racer Ron Haslam never passed his bike test.

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    The System is well pleased with this Unit's performance, which falls
    within expected parameters.

  15. Jon_H said:

    Do you actually need a driving licence to drive F1 cars on the track, I
    don't think you do.

    Legally, no (although I wonder about events on-road, such as the late
    Birmingham races of the mid 80s). However, in practice yes, since the
    organizing bodies of most races require them either explicitly or
    implicitly. I would guess that this is an insurance requirement.

    R.

  16. "Jon_H" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Do you actually need a driving licence to drive F1 cars on the track, I
    don't think you do.

    The article has comment about her racing license being pulled by the
    association if her driving license is revoked, or something to that effect.

  17. David Hansen said:

    On 3 Aug 2005 06:42:42 -0700 someone who may be "David Martin"
    <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    It would be a bit rough to curtail someones career for a first offence.

    It would send a salutary lesson to others. Instead it tells them to
    try and find any excuse.

    Like the rallyists in wales a few years back caught speeding and the one
    trying to drive to *service* on 3 wheels instead of 4 on public roads.

  18. "wafflycat" <waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    ... another twunt let off with a fine. And I know the magistrate... I feel


    a

    Quoted message said:

    letter coming on...when I calm down...

    Be careful, the appropriate form of address is Your Twuntship. Calling a
    magistrate a twunt to his face could lead to problems.

    What a pillock.

    And the stupid [censored] shouldn't be allowed near a car for several years --
    formula one or 2CV.

    T

  19. "David Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    It would be a bit rough to curtail someones career for a first offence.

    First time caught I think you perhaps meant to say.

  20. Small fine was for the small income. >30+ mph is I think a category B
    offence so 1/2 of 1 week salary. I am guessing that she doesn't own the
    Ferrari.

    I don't see how a ban would have _really_ damaged her career, unless
    they now train to race on public roads? But I think on balance I agree
    with you. Any further transgressions would not go down well.

    regards
    daren
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