Typical...

Tony Raven said:

I'm afraid I agree on both counts. Loss of the Ferrari would have been
a suitable fine but in the circumstances where people get off a ban
because it would mean they could not drive little Tamsin to school it
would be grossly unfair to end her career. Just one point will end it
now which means she will almost certainly have learnt a lesson.

Trouble is, according to the report, what she regrets is putting her
career at risk, not the danger to life and limb of any innocent
bystanders (or bydrivers).

regards, Ian SMith
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Jon_H said:

Do you actually need a driving licence to drive F1 cars on the track, I
don't think you do.

I think you need a racing licence. I think you need a road-going
driving licence to have a racing licence (or possibly, need not to
have been disqualified from holding a road-going licence).

There was a similar story some (5? 10?) years ago about one of teh
established F1 drivers, who got special treatment because otherwise he
wouldn't be able to race and that would be terribly disapointing to
all his fans (or words to that effect).

regards, Ian Smith
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Jon_H said:

Do you actually need a driving licence to drive F1 cars on the track,
I don't think you do.

No; Jenson Button never had one when he started out -
http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/7-1-2002-21569.asp

Motor Racing circuits are private property - you don't need a licence,
otherwise 8-year-old children wouldn't be able to go cart racing.

I wonder who said that "Motorsports authorities would then have withdrawn
her racing licence, bringing an end to her season and leaving her scant hope
of gaining further sponsorship."?

If I was a cynical sort, I'd say that the solicitor said that to the judge
so that his client would get off. Perhaps she might have lost it for
bringing the sport into disrepute, but she's already *done* that.

Pete.

in message <[email hidden]>, Tony Raven

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David Martin said:

wafflycat said:

... another twunt let off with a fine. And I know the magistrate...
I feel a letter coming on...when I calm down...

http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/News/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=News&tBrand=edponline&tCategory=news&itemid=NOED03%20Aug%202005%2009%3A00%3A35%3A973

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Actually, I don't think it was such a bad decision. She sure as
anything won't be risking any more points now.

It would be a bit rough to curtail someones career for a first
offence. And if you think that is lenient then maybe you can justify
why six points and no disqualification would have been appropriate
for a driver with two years more 'experience'.

Bigger fine would have helped though, and community service.

I'm afraid I agree on both counts. Loss of the Ferrari would have been
a suitable fine but in the circumstances where people get off a ban
because it would mean they could not drive little Tamsin to school it
would be grossly unfair to end her career. Just one point will end it
now which means she will almost certainly have learnt a lesson.

In this case I'd have thought 'six months jail time but keep the license,
or else pay a fine and lose the license, your choice' might have been a
suitable sentence. Mind you, I am very much of the opinion that a single
incident of seriously dangerous driving should result in the license to
drive being revoked permanently, no excuses, no option of retest.

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Jon_H said:

"David Hansen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

On 3 Aug 2005 06:42:42 -0700 someone who may be "David Martin"
<[email hidden]> wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

It would be a bit rough to curtail someones career for a first offence.

It would send a salutary lesson to others. Instead it tells them to
try and find any excuse.

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I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government
prevents me by using the RIP Act 2000.

Do you actually need a driving licence to drive F1 cars on the track, I
don't think you do.

OK. From memory. To drive formula one you need an international
´super´ competition licence. Which is somewhat hard to get. I dont
know exactly what one has to do for that but I had to do many observed
laps for my race licence way back when.

You dont need a driving licence but its almost certain your competition
licence would be withdrawn during the period of disqualificition.

Imagine the outcry if she were involved in a serious accident on the
track while disqualified, noone would risk it.

SHe would almost certainly cost her team some sponsers and that would
cost her the drive.

Now that a girl has scored a 4th at the Indy 500, it may well be the
time for women to make their mark at the top level in motor racing. I
actually do hope so. It will make it more fun.

NJF said:

David Hansen said:

On 3 Aug 2005 06:42:42 -0700 someone who may be "David Martin"
<[email hidden]> wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

It would be a bit rough to curtail someones career for a first offence.

It would send a salutary lesson to others. Instead it tells them to
try and find any excuse.

Like the rallyists in wales a few years back caught speeding and the one
trying to drive to *service* on 3 wheels instead of 4 on public roads.

Now that one I would have let go. 🙂 It wasnt like it was moving fast
enough to be a danger. That cop was a prat.

Ian Smith said:

Jon_H said:

Do you actually need a driving licence to drive F1 cars on the track, I
don't think you do.

I think you need a racing licence. I think you need a road-going
driving licence to have a racing licence (or possibly, need not to
have been disqualified from holding a road-going licence).

Need not to have been disqualified in very public circumstances for
being a naughtly boy/girl.

Quoted message said:

There was a similar story some (5? 10?) years ago about one of teh
established F1 drivers, who got special treatment because otherwise he
wouldn't be able to race and that would be terribly disapointing to
all his fans (or words to that effect).

regards, Ian Smith

dave said:

NJF said:

David Hansen wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Like the rallyists in wales a few years back caught speeding and the
one trying to drive to *service* on 3 wheels instead of 4 on public
roads.

Now that one I would have let go. 🙂 It wasnt like it was moving fast
enough to be a danger. That cop was a prat.

30 plus mph with the navagator hanging out/off to counter balance it, na
deserved nicking good and proper

Category A, 1 week salary

regards,
daren