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Rex
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I have heard about using ultrasonic cleaners to clean a chain.
Has anyone here used one? What fluid do you use in it?
Has anyone here used one? What fluid do you use in it?
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John Henderson
Guest
Rex wrote:
> I have heard about using ultrasonic cleaners to clean a chain.
>
> Has anyone here used one?
I use one regularly. It visably gets more dirt out after just
thrashing the chain about in a bottle of clean solvent doesn't
get any more out.
> What fluid do you use in it?
One which supports cavitation. There are special detergents
sold to add to water to promote cavitation in ultrasonic
cleaners. But I find that mineral turps works very well.
Cavitation is the process where minute vacuum bubbles are formed
in the liquid by localised pressure changes. These immediately
collapse violently, with the resultant shock waves loosening
dirt stuck hard to surfaces. Excessive and prolonged
cavitation will erode the metal itself.
John
> I have heard about using ultrasonic cleaners to clean a chain.
>
> Has anyone here used one?
I use one regularly. It visably gets more dirt out after just
thrashing the chain about in a bottle of clean solvent doesn't
get any more out.
> What fluid do you use in it?
One which supports cavitation. There are special detergents
sold to add to water to promote cavitation in ultrasonic
cleaners. But I find that mineral turps works very well.
Cavitation is the process where minute vacuum bubbles are formed
in the liquid by localised pressure changes. These immediately
collapse violently, with the resultant shock waves loosening
dirt stuck hard to surfaces. Excessive and prolonged
cavitation will erode the metal itself.
John
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heh heh
Guest
John Henderson wrote:
> Rex wrote:
>
>> I have heard about using ultrasonic cleaners to clean a chain.
>>
>> Has anyone here used one?
>
> I use one regularly. It visably gets more dirt out after just
> thrashing the chain about in a bottle of clean solvent doesn't
> get any more out.
>
>> What fluid do you use in it?
>
> One which supports cavitation. There are special detergents
> sold to add to water to promote cavitation in ultrasonic
> cleaners. But I find that mineral turps works very well.
>
> Cavitation is the process where minute vacuum bubbles are formed
> in the liquid by localised pressure changes. These immediately
> collapse violently, with the resultant shock waves loosening
> dirt stuck hard to surfaces. Excessive and prolonged
> cavitation will erode the metal itself.
>
> John
They have one at Aldi from this Thursday for $39.99. Is it the same
thing I wonder?
> Rex wrote:
>
>> I have heard about using ultrasonic cleaners to clean a chain.
>>
>> Has anyone here used one?
>
> I use one regularly. It visably gets more dirt out after just
> thrashing the chain about in a bottle of clean solvent doesn't
> get any more out.
>
>> What fluid do you use in it?
>
> One which supports cavitation. There are special detergents
> sold to add to water to promote cavitation in ultrasonic
> cleaners. But I find that mineral turps works very well.
>
> Cavitation is the process where minute vacuum bubbles are formed
> in the liquid by localised pressure changes. These immediately
> collapse violently, with the resultant shock waves loosening
> dirt stuck hard to surfaces. Excessive and prolonged
> cavitation will erode the metal itself.
>
> John
They have one at Aldi from this Thursday for $39.99. Is it the same
thing I wonder?
J
John Henderson
Guest
heh heh wrote:
> They have one at Aldi from this Thursday for $39.99. Is it the
> same thing I wonder?
That's a very good price, as long as it's big enough to clean a
chain effectively. It's a bit hard to tell from the photo on
http://www.aldi.com.au/ but it does look promising, with a 650
ml capacity tank.
John
> They have one at Aldi from this Thursday for $39.99. Is it the
> same thing I wonder?
That's a very good price, as long as it's big enough to clean a
chain effectively. It's a bit hard to tell from the photo on
http://www.aldi.com.au/ but it does look promising, with a 650
ml capacity tank.
John
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Rex
Guest
That is why I was asking! Just wondering if it would be worthwhile.
I use kero to clean the chain at the moment - would this work in an
ultrasonic?
"heh heh" <not@here> wrote in message
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> John Henderson wrote:
>> Rex wrote:
>>
>>> I have heard about using ultrasonic cleaners to clean a chain.
>>>
>>> Has anyone here used one?
>>
>> I use one regularly. It visably gets more dirt out after just
>> thrashing the chain about in a bottle of clean solvent doesn't
>> get any more out.
>>
>>> What fluid do you use in it?
>>
>> One which supports cavitation. There are special detergents
>> sold to add to water to promote cavitation in ultrasonic
>> cleaners. But I find that mineral turps works very well.
>>
>> Cavitation is the process where minute vacuum bubbles are formed
>> in the liquid by localised pressure changes. These immediately
>> collapse violently, with the resultant shock waves loosening
>> dirt stuck hard to surfaces. Excessive and prolonged
>> cavitation will erode the metal itself.
>>
>> John
> They have one at Aldi from this Thursday for $39.99. Is it the same thing
> I wonder?
I use kero to clean the chain at the moment - would this work in an
ultrasonic?
"heh heh" <not@here> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> John Henderson wrote:
>> Rex wrote:
>>
>>> I have heard about using ultrasonic cleaners to clean a chain.
>>>
>>> Has anyone here used one?
>>
>> I use one regularly. It visably gets more dirt out after just
>> thrashing the chain about in a bottle of clean solvent doesn't
>> get any more out.
>>
>>> What fluid do you use in it?
>>
>> One which supports cavitation. There are special detergents
>> sold to add to water to promote cavitation in ultrasonic
>> cleaners. But I find that mineral turps works very well.
>>
>> Cavitation is the process where minute vacuum bubbles are formed
>> in the liquid by localised pressure changes. These immediately
>> collapse violently, with the resultant shock waves loosening
>> dirt stuck hard to surfaces. Excessive and prolonged
>> cavitation will erode the metal itself.
>>
>> John
> They have one at Aldi from this Thursday for $39.99. Is it the same thing
> I wonder?
J
John Henderson
Guest
Rex wrote:
> That is why I was asking! Just wondering if it would be
> worthwhile.
The advert says this one has a basket to put the items to be
cleaned into. Use of a basket makes the device more effective,
and last longer. But it reduces the physical payload size.
> I use kero to clean the chain at the moment - would this work
> in an ultrasonic?
It's worth a go. You'll soon see whether it gets dirt out of a
chain when just agitating it in clean kero won't remove any
more.
Kero sometimes gets bad press as a cleaning solvent. Turps was
cheaper when I last bought it, as well.
John
> That is why I was asking! Just wondering if it would be
> worthwhile.
The advert says this one has a basket to put the items to be
cleaned into. Use of a basket makes the device more effective,
and last longer. But it reduces the physical payload size.
> I use kero to clean the chain at the moment - would this work
> in an ultrasonic?
It's worth a go. You'll soon see whether it gets dirt out of a
chain when just agitating it in clean kero won't remove any
more.
Kero sometimes gets bad press as a cleaning solvent. Turps was
cheaper when I last bought it, as well.
John
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Dre
Guest
"John Henderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Rex wrote:
>
>> That is why I was asking! Just wondering if it would be
>> worthwhile.
>
> The advert says this one has a basket to put the items to be
> cleaned into. Use of a basket makes the device more effective,
> and last longer. But it reduces the physical payload size.
>
>> I use kero to clean the chain at the moment - would this work
>> in an ultrasonic?
>
> It's worth a go. You'll soon see whether it gets dirt out of a
> chain when just agitating it in clean kero won't remove any
> more.
>
> Kero sometimes gets bad press as a cleaning solvent. Turps was
> cheaper when I last bought it, as well.
>
> John
Whats the best way to get the kero out of the chain once you've finished
cleaning it??
Wont any left over kero break the oil down once you've given the chain a
lube?
Cheers Dre
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> Rex wrote:
>
>> That is why I was asking! Just wondering if it would be
>> worthwhile.
>
> The advert says this one has a basket to put the items to be
> cleaned into. Use of a basket makes the device more effective,
> and last longer. But it reduces the physical payload size.
>
>> I use kero to clean the chain at the moment - would this work
>> in an ultrasonic?
>
> It's worth a go. You'll soon see whether it gets dirt out of a
> chain when just agitating it in clean kero won't remove any
> more.
>
> Kero sometimes gets bad press as a cleaning solvent. Turps was
> cheaper when I last bought it, as well.
>
> John
Whats the best way to get the kero out of the chain once you've finished
cleaning it??
Wont any left over kero break the oil down once you've given the chain a
lube?
Cheers Dre
J
John Henderson
Guest
Dre wrote:
> Whats the best way to get the kero out of the chain once
> you've finished cleaning it??
>
> Wont any left over kero break the oil down once you've given
> the chain a lube?
I use warmth and time to get rid of turps after cleaning chains.
I hang them in the sun for a few hours.
If I'm impatient, I've been known to gently heat them on a stove
hotplate.
John
> Whats the best way to get the kero out of the chain once
> you've finished cleaning it??
>
> Wont any left over kero break the oil down once you've given
> the chain a lube?
I use warmth and time to get rid of turps after cleaning chains.
I hang them in the sun for a few hours.
If I'm impatient, I've been known to gently heat them on a stove
hotplate.
John
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Dre
Guest
"John Henderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dre wrote:
>
>> Whats the best way to get the kero out of the chain once
>> you've finished cleaning it??
>>
>> Wont any left over kero break the oil down once you've given
>> the chain a lube?
>
> I use warmth and time to get rid of turps after cleaning chains.
> I hang them in the sun for a few hours.
>
> If I'm impatient, I've been known to gently heat them on a stove
> hotplate.
>
> John
Ahhh, nice, so you just wait till it dries, thats easy enough!
In that case I'll just hang it up to dry before I go to bed, then put it
back on and lube it in the morning, done...
Thanks for the tip!
Cheers Dre
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> Dre wrote:
>
>> Whats the best way to get the kero out of the chain once
>> you've finished cleaning it??
>>
>> Wont any left over kero break the oil down once you've given
>> the chain a lube?
>
> I use warmth and time to get rid of turps after cleaning chains.
> I hang them in the sun for a few hours.
>
> If I'm impatient, I've been known to gently heat them on a stove
> hotplate.
>
> John
Ahhh, nice, so you just wait till it dries, thats easy enough!
In that case I'll just hang it up to dry before I go to bed, then put it
back on and lube it in the morning, done...
Thanks for the tip!
Cheers Dre
D
Dre
Guest
"John Henderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dre wrote:
>
>> Whats the best way to get the kero out of the chain once
>> you've finished cleaning it??
>>
>> Wont any left over kero break the oil down once you've given
>> the chain a lube?
>
> I use warmth and time to get rid of turps after cleaning chains.
> I hang them in the sun for a few hours.
>
> If I'm impatient, I've been known to gently heat them on a stove
> hotplate.
>
> John
And I've only just noticed you mention turps, where I mention kero, is one
better than the other in your opinion??
I have a bottle of each but I'm curious whats best to use...
Cheers Dre
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> Dre wrote:
>
>> Whats the best way to get the kero out of the chain once
>> you've finished cleaning it??
>>
>> Wont any left over kero break the oil down once you've given
>> the chain a lube?
>
> I use warmth and time to get rid of turps after cleaning chains.
> I hang them in the sun for a few hours.
>
> If I'm impatient, I've been known to gently heat them on a stove
> hotplate.
>
> John
And I've only just noticed you mention turps, where I mention kero, is one
better than the other in your opinion??
I have a bottle of each but I'm curious whats best to use...
Cheers Dre
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Theo Bekkers
Guest
Dre wrote:
> And I've only just noticed you mention turps, where I mention kero,
> is one better than the other in your opinion??
>
> I have a bottle of each but I'm curious whats best to use...
I'm told turps tastes better and is less likely to kill you. Kero cleans
better. Use the turps to thin your oil-based paints.
Theo
> And I've only just noticed you mention turps, where I mention kero,
> is one better than the other in your opinion??
>
> I have a bottle of each but I'm curious whats best to use...
I'm told turps tastes better and is less likely to kill you. Kero cleans
better. Use the turps to thin your oil-based paints.
Theo
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John Henderson
Guest
Dre wrote:
> And I've only just noticed you mention turps, where I mention
> kero, is one better than the other in your opinion??
>
> I have a bottle of each but I'm curious whats best to use...
Kero is a fuel, whereas turps is a solvent. That's not to say
kero isn't also a good solvent, but it may not be as good.
I've read various claims that kero is an abrasive. Myth or not,
you can find the claim using google. While it doesn't make
much sense to me that such a mix of liquid hydrocarbons would
be abrasive in its own right, it does raise a question.
I buy turps in 4-litre bottles, and they were cheaper than the
4-litre bottles of kero.
John
> And I've only just noticed you mention turps, where I mention
> kero, is one better than the other in your opinion??
>
> I have a bottle of each but I'm curious whats best to use...
Kero is a fuel, whereas turps is a solvent. That's not to say
kero isn't also a good solvent, but it may not be as good.
I've read various claims that kero is an abrasive. Myth or not,
you can find the claim using google. While it doesn't make
much sense to me that such a mix of liquid hydrocarbons would
be abrasive in its own right, it does raise a question.
I buy turps in 4-litre bottles, and they were cheaper than the
4-litre bottles of kero.
John
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thefathippy
Guest
On Nov 24, 10:30 pm, "Rex" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have heard about using ultrasonic cleaners to clean a chain.
>
> Has anyone here used one? What fluid do you use in it?
Plus? It works.
Minus? It takes a looooong time.
I used kero, and the chain did fit in my aldi version.
To be honest, I used it a few times, then parked it. I probably didn't
do quite as good a job slooshing the chain around in a kero filled
tub, but the chain was back on my bike much faster, meaning I was
too! ;^)
To be even more honest, clean chains are overrated. ;^) <puts on
asbestos undies>
Tony F
> I have heard about using ultrasonic cleaners to clean a chain.
>
> Has anyone here used one? What fluid do you use in it?
Plus? It works.
Minus? It takes a looooong time.
I used kero, and the chain did fit in my aldi version.
To be honest, I used it a few times, then parked it. I probably didn't
do quite as good a job slooshing the chain around in a kero filled
tub, but the chain was back on my bike much faster, meaning I was
too! ;^)
To be even more honest, clean chains are overrated. ;^) <puts on
asbestos undies>
Tony F
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Dre
Guest
"Theo Bekkers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dre wrote:
>
>> And I've only just noticed you mention turps, where I mention kero,
>> is one better than the other in your opinion??
>>
>> I have a bottle of each but I'm curious whats best to use...
>
> I'm told turps tastes better and is less likely to kill you. Kero cleans
> better. Use the turps to thin your oil-based paints.
>
> Theo
>
Okay, thanks for the info, kero it is!
Cheers Dre
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> Dre wrote:
>
>> And I've only just noticed you mention turps, where I mention kero,
>> is one better than the other in your opinion??
>>
>> I have a bottle of each but I'm curious whats best to use...
>
> I'm told turps tastes better and is less likely to kill you. Kero cleans
> better. Use the turps to thin your oil-based paints.
>
> Theo
>
Okay, thanks for the info, kero it is!
Cheers Dre
D
Dre
Guest
"John Henderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dre wrote:
>
>> And I've only just noticed you mention turps, where I mention
>> kero, is one better than the other in your opinion??
>>
>> I have a bottle of each but I'm curious whats best to use...
>
> Kero is a fuel, whereas turps is a solvent. That's not to say
> kero isn't also a good solvent, but it may not be as good.
>
> I've read various claims that kero is an abrasive. Myth or not,
> you can find the claim using google. While it doesn't make
> much sense to me that such a mix of liquid hydrocarbons would
> be abrasive in its own right, it does raise a question.
>
> I buy turps in 4-litre bottles, and they were cheaper than the
> 4-litre bottles of kero.
>
> John
Fair enough, thanks for the tip, I'll stick to me kero then!
Cheers Dre
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> Dre wrote:
>
>> And I've only just noticed you mention turps, where I mention
>> kero, is one better than the other in your opinion??
>>
>> I have a bottle of each but I'm curious whats best to use...
>
> Kero is a fuel, whereas turps is a solvent. That's not to say
> kero isn't also a good solvent, but it may not be as good.
>
> I've read various claims that kero is an abrasive. Myth or not,
> you can find the claim using google. While it doesn't make
> much sense to me that such a mix of liquid hydrocarbons would
> be abrasive in its own right, it does raise a question.
>
> I buy turps in 4-litre bottles, and they were cheaper than the
> 4-litre bottles of kero.
>
> John
Fair enough, thanks for the tip, I'll stick to me kero then!
Cheers Dre