in message <[email hidden]>, John Forrest Tomlinson ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:
> Mental illness is not joke. > > That said, I don't have much sympathy for this guy -- he put himself > in a situation where the illness could take hold.
Can you suggest for us a situation in which depression is unlikely to take hold?
When you don't dump a long-time girlfriend and then [censored] your wife, and jump from team to team along the way, doing drugs.
That kind of situation.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm with Kunich and the others on this one.
Speaking from personal experience, depression is a disease ... And while it's not an excuse for bad behavior, it is often the cause of it.
VDB most likely isn't depressed as a result of dumping his long-time girlfriend, jumping from team to team, and doing drugs ... He most likely did all those things BECAUSE he was suffering from depression.
It is a disease. And he should have maybe gotten treatment a long time ago for it. It's like having heart trouble which prevents exercise but you keep eating so you get fat and have more heart trouble. You've got to deal with it when you can and make some choices.
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On Jun 9, 2:53 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <[email hidden]>
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On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 10:01:29 -0600, "Steven L. Sheffield"
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VDB most likely isn't depressed as a result of dumping his long-time girlfriend, jumping from team to team, and doing drugs ... He most likely did all those things BECAUSE he was suffering from depression.
It is a disease. And he should have maybe gotten treatment a long time ago for it. It's like having heart trouble which prevents exercise but you keep eating so you get fat and have more heart trouble. You've got to deal with it when you can and make some choices.
according to la gazzetta he attempted suicide yesterday....aiaiaiai
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Ugh. Bad news. Hope he can exorcise his demons.
You mean by signing on here and seeing what little identity he had remaining being butchered by people here who couldn't hold his wheel when he was riding as slow as he could?
"John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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It is a disease. And he should have maybe gotten treatment a long time ago for it.
John, one of the major symptoms of depression is that you don't want to share it with anyone else. Especially some nut doctor who may tell you you're crazy.
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On Jun 7, 1:24 pm, Annelies <[email hidden]> wrote: > according to la gazzetta he attempted suicide yesterday....aiaiaiai
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Ugh. Bad news. Hope he can exorcise his demons.
You mean by signing on here and seeing what little identity he had remaining being butchered by people here who couldn't hold his wheel when he was riding as slow as he could?
None of that's a surprise to me Andre, I had a brother like that. The drugs finally took him.
The question is: why is it that he took drugs and I didn't? We were both brought up in the same manner and he was only two years younger than me. We did everything together etc when we were kids.
It's the mental problems that we cannot guess at. I'm not forgiving nor forgetting VDB's actions, just saying that this isn't something he had control over once he started down that path.
> On Jun 7, 1:24 pm, Annelies <[email hidden]> wrote: >> according to la gazzetta he attempted suicide yesterday....aiaiaiai
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> Ugh. Bad news. Hope he can exorcise his demons.
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You mean by signing on here and seeing what little identity he had remaining being butchered by people here who couldn't hold his wheel when he was riding as slow as he could?
None of that's a surprise to me Andre, I had a brother like that. The drugs finally took him.
The question is: why is it that he took drugs and I didn't? We were both brought up in the same manner and he was only two years younger than me. We did everything together etc when we were kids.
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I am sorry for your loss Tom. I have a brother that I love a lot too so I know it must have been painful for you to have lost him.
