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Just a short bookmark to note that since I upped my mileage to 100miles/week,
and two-a-day rides, my weightloss has increased dramatically.

Initially I only had lost about 15lbs over 6 months at a more modest 50miles/wk.

In the first 5 higher mileage weeks, I've lost 15lbs, the second 2 weeks 10lbs more.

These last two weeks, I've ridden faster (from 11.7 mph, average to 13.5 mph, average),
and farther (from 10 miles/ride to 20 miles/ride average).

So, IMO, biking alone can help you lose weight if you are doing enough mileage, and
at a fast enough speed. Of course you have to find your own 'threshold' for these.

Some people may find that threshold with less mileage, and greater speed - gotta
experiment.

In addition, I'm adding muscle to my legs, calves and yes, a little to the upper body,
although some of the apparent 'muscle' is just better defo, due to the loss of fat.

Thus 25-30lbs in 8 weeks has not resulted in any bad side-effects for me, nor have I
lost any significant muscle. Energy and drive have increased markedly, as well.

Moral: When in doubt, bike a lot! ;-p

-B
 
Keep it up... you're an inspiration to all who need to shed a few Kilos.



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Thus 25-30lbs in 8 weeks has not resulted in any bad side-effects for
me, nor have I
lost any significant muscle. Energy and drive have increased markedly,
as well.



Good for you. I have recently come to the same conclusion myself since
my daily rides of between 12 and fifteen aren't taking anything off
I've aspired to go for at least twenty a day and hopefully two-a-days.
Good luck.
 
On 2 Jun 2004 19:17:39 -0700, [email protected] (Ryan W.) wrote:

>Thus 25-30lbs in 8 weeks has not resulted in any bad side-effects for
>me, nor have I
>lost any significant muscle. Energy and drive have increased markedly,
>as well.
>
>
>
>Good for you. I have recently come to the same conclusion myself since
>my daily rides of between 12 and fifteen aren't taking anything off
>I've aspired to go for at least twenty a day and hopefully two-a-days.
>Good luck.


One thing about losing the weight by biking (or any exercise), is that it's pretty
easy to keep it off, mostly. ;-)

Since my learning curve and ability on the bike is still climbing, and nowhere
near leveling off, even occasional bad eating habits are oft thwarted. <g>

Still I avoid sugars, sweetened drinks, and white carbs completely, and drink lots
of fluids.

It really helps being on vacation, b/c my host (brother) is an excellent cook
and he is on a -very- strict low carb diet.

What worked for me was having two-a-days that I eventually merged. I.e., I'd ride
two ten milers, about 4-8 hours apart, and then after a few weeks, I'd be ready
to do one 20 miler, and later in the day a ten miler. I try to ride a long ride on Saturday
and a fast ride on Sunday. Mondays, if I feel good, I'll push it again; if not, I'll ease up.

Good luck to you!

-Badger
 
Badger_South wrote:
:: On 2 Jun 2004 19:17:39 -0700, [email protected] (Ryan W.) wrote:
::
::: Thus 25-30lbs in 8 weeks has not resulted in any bad side-effects
::: for me, nor have I
::: lost any significant muscle. Energy and drive have increased
::: markedly, as well.
:::
:::
:::
::: Good for you. I have recently come to the same conclusion myself
::: since my daily rides of between 12 and fifteen aren't taking
::: anything off I've aspired to go for at least twenty a day and
::: hopefully two-a-days. Good luck.
::
:: One thing about losing the weight by biking (or any exercise), is
:: that it's pretty
:: easy to keep it off, mostly. ;-)
::
:: Since my learning curve and ability on the bike is still climbing,
:: and nowhere
:: near leveling off, even occasional bad eating habits are oft
:: thwarted. <g>
::
:: Still I avoid sugars, sweetened drinks, and white carbs completely,
:: and drink lots
:: of fluids.
::
:: It really helps being on vacation, b/c my host (brother) is an
:: excellent cook
:: and he is on a -very- strict low carb diet.
::
:: What worked for me was having two-a-days that I eventually merged.
:: I.e., I'd ride
:: two ten milers, about 4-8 hours apart, and then after a few weeks,
:: I'd be ready
:: to do one 20 miler, and later in the day a ten miler. I try to ride
:: a long ride on Saturday and a fast ride on Sunday. Mondays, if I
:: feel good, I'll push it again; if not, I'll ease up.
::
:: Good luck to you!

Have you not had any issues with low blood glucose after a long ride while
LCing, Badger? I seem to. This has been messing with me since I started
doing lots of miles. I don't seem to have problems while on the bike, but
about an hour or two afterwards, I just run completely out of juice and feel
like **** for the rest of the day -- if I don't take in lots of carbs. Of
course, on my rides there are lots of hills and I repeatedly get up over 90%
of theoretical max heartrate (220 - 46 = 174). In fact, many times I get
upto 95%.
 
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 09:08:20 -0400, "Roger Zoul" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Have you not had any issues with low blood glucose after a long ride while
>LCing, Badger? I seem to. This has been messing with me since I started
>doing lots of miles. I don't seem to have problems while on the bike, but
>about an hour or two afterwards, I just run completely out of juice and feel
>like **** for the rest of the day -- if I don't take in lots of carbs. Of
>course, on my rides there are lots of hills and I repeatedly get up over 90%
>of theoretical max heartrate (220 - 46 = 174). In fact, many times I get
>upto 95%.


When I get to your level, I'll letcha know; mebbe in about 6 months, eh?

Seems like you're on to the right solution, though.

-Badger
 
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...

....

> Have you not had any issues with low blood glucose after a long ride while
> LCing, Badger? I seem to. This has been messing with me since I started
> doing lots of miles. I don't seem to have problems while on the bike, but
> about an hour or two afterwards, I just run completely out of juice and feel
> like **** for the rest of the day -- if I don't take in lots of carbs. Of
> course, on my rides there are lots of hills and I repeatedly get up over 90%
> of theoretical max heartrate (220 - 46 = 174). In fact, many times I get
> upto 95%.


You might want to take a shot at measuring your actual max HR, rather
than using the 220 - age formula. For many people, especially ones who
have stayed somewhat fit as they age, that gives you a number
significantly lower than their actual max HR. I'm 43, and my measured
max is anywhere from 7 to 15 bpm higher than that number would give me,
depending on the exercise.

When you are just starting out, that formula gives you a decent starting
place, but as you work your way into shape, you should measure it once
in a while to keep your training intensity at a proper level.


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Roger Zoul wrote:
> Badger_South wrote:
>>> On 2 Jun 2004 19:17:39 -0700, [email protected] (Ryan W.) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thus 25-30lbs in 8 weeks has not resulted in any bad side-effects
>>>> for me, nor have I
>>>> lost any significant muscle. Energy and drive have increased
>>>> markedly, as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good for you. I have recently come to the same conclusion myself
>>>> since my daily rides of between 12 and fifteen aren't taking
>>>> anything off I've aspired to go for at least twenty a day and
>>>> hopefully two-a-days. Good luck.
>>>
>>> One thing about losing the weight by biking (or any exercise), is
>>> that it's pretty
>>> easy to keep it off, mostly. ;-)
>>>
>>> Since my learning curve and ability on the bike is still climbing,
>>> and nowhere
>>> near leveling off, even occasional bad eating habits are oft
>>> thwarted. <g>
>>>
>>> Still I avoid sugars, sweetened drinks, and white carbs completely,
>>> and drink lots
>>> of fluids.
>>>
>>> It really helps being on vacation, b/c my host (brother) is an
>>> excellent cook
>>> and he is on a -very- strict low carb diet.
>>>
>>> What worked for me was having two-a-days that I eventually merged.
>>> I.e., I'd ride
>>> two ten milers, about 4-8 hours apart, and then after a few weeks,
>>> I'd be ready
>>> to do one 20 miler, and later in the day a ten miler. I try to ride
>>> a long ride on Saturday and a fast ride on Sunday. Mondays, if I
>>> feel good, I'll push it again; if not, I'll ease up.
>>>
>>> Good luck to you!

>
> Have you not had any issues with low blood glucose after a long ride
> while LCing, Badger? I seem to. This has been messing with me since
> I started doing lots of miles. I don't seem to have problems while on
> the bike, but about an hour or two afterwards, I just run completely
> out of juice and feel like **** for the rest of the day -- if I don't
> take in lots of carbs. Of course, on my rides there are lots of
> hills and I repeatedly get up over 90% of theoretical max heartrate
> (220 - 46 = 174). In fact, many times I get upto 95%.


I'm often at 114% of my theoretical max heartrate during our normal sunday
grouprides. Just to show you how theoretical these numbers are.
Have you heard of the glycogene window? It's open maybe a little less than
an hour after a hard workout. It's more open the closer to your ride you
are. During this phase you can eat high GI carbs without raising your
insulin level or creating a sugar rush and the ensuing crash. The carbs will
be will go straight out into your muscles and stored as glycogen, thus
starting the recovery process. You might wan't to look into what you eat or
drink right after a workout. I try to stick something in my mouth before I
even get to the showers. Even plain white sugar is better than nothing at
this point. Some fruit is probably a lot better.

--
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David Kerber wrote:
:: In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
:: says...
::
:: ...
::
::: Have you not had any issues with low blood glucose after a long
::: ride while LCing, Badger? I seem to. This has been messing with
::: me since I started doing lots of miles. I don't seem to have
::: problems while on the bike, but about an hour or two afterwards, I
::: just run completely out of juice and feel like **** for the rest of
::: the day -- if I don't take in lots of carbs. Of course, on my
::: rides there are lots of hills and I repeatedly get up over 90% of
::: theoretical max heartrate (220 - 46 = 174). In fact, many times I
::: get upto 95%.
::
:: You might want to take a shot at measuring your actual max HR, rather
:: than using the 220 - age formula. For many people, especially ones
:: who have stayed somewhat fit as they age, that gives you a number
:: significantly lower than their actual max HR. I'm 43, and my
:: measured max is anywhere from 7 to 15 bpm higher than that number
:: would give me, depending on the exercise.
::
:: When you are just starting out, that formula gives you a decent
:: starting place, but as you work your way into shape, you should
:: measure it once in a while to keep your training intensity at a
:: proper level.

I have my Polar s720i that claims to do something regarding max heart rate
and V02max (I haven't gotten around to using it). Would that be sufficient
or should I go looking elsewhere? There is a lab here that has a bodygem
device that will measure your resting metabolic rate. I could ask there. I
really do need to get to the bottom of the low BG thing, one way or another.
 
Per Elmsäter wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: Badger_South wrote:
::::: On 2 Jun 2004 19:17:39 -0700, [email protected] (Ryan W.)
::::: wrote:
:::::
:::::: Thus 25-30lbs in 8 weeks has not resulted in any bad side-effects
:::::: for me, nor have I
:::::: lost any significant muscle. Energy and drive have increased
:::::: markedly, as well.
::::::
::::::
::::::
:::::: Good for you. I have recently come to the same conclusion myself
:::::: since my daily rides of between 12 and fifteen aren't taking
:::::: anything off I've aspired to go for at least twenty a day and
:::::: hopefully two-a-days. Good luck.
:::::
::::: One thing about losing the weight by biking (or any exercise), is
::::: that it's pretty
::::: easy to keep it off, mostly. ;-)
:::::
::::: Since my learning curve and ability on the bike is still climbing,
::::: and nowhere
::::: near leveling off, even occasional bad eating habits are oft
::::: thwarted. <g>
:::::
::::: Still I avoid sugars, sweetened drinks, and white carbs
::::: completely, and drink lots
::::: of fluids.
:::::
::::: It really helps being on vacation, b/c my host (brother) is an
::::: excellent cook
::::: and he is on a -very- strict low carb diet.
:::::
::::: What worked for me was having two-a-days that I eventually merged.
::::: I.e., I'd ride
::::: two ten milers, about 4-8 hours apart, and then after a few weeks,
::::: I'd be ready
::::: to do one 20 miler, and later in the day a ten miler. I try to
::::: ride a long ride on Saturday and a fast ride on Sunday. Mondays,
::::: if I feel good, I'll push it again; if not, I'll ease up.
:::::
::::: Good luck to you!
:::
::: Have you not had any issues with low blood glucose after a long ride
::: while LCing, Badger? I seem to. This has been messing with me
::: since I started doing lots of miles. I don't seem to have problems
::: while on the bike, but about an hour or two afterwards, I just run
::: completely out of juice and feel like **** for the rest of the day
::: -- if I don't take in lots of carbs. Of course, on my rides there
::: are lots of hills and I repeatedly get up over 90% of theoretical
::: max heartrate (220 - 46 = 174). In fact, many times I get upto 95%.
::
:: I'm often at 114% of my theoretical max heartrate during our normal
:: sunday grouprides. Just to show you how theoretical these numbers
:: are.
:: Have you heard of the glycogene window? It's open maybe a little
:: less than an hour after a hard workout. It's more open the closer to
:: your ride you are. During this phase you can eat high GI carbs
:: without raising your insulin level or creating a sugar rush and the
:: ensuing crash. The carbs will be will go straight out into your
:: muscles and stored as glycogen, thus starting the recovery process.
:: You might wan't to look into what you eat or drink right after a
:: workout. I try to stick something in my mouth before I even get to
:: the showers. Even plain white sugar is better than nothing at this
:: point. Some fruit is probably a lot better.

Thanks....I'll look into the glycogene window. I have read that some amount
of carbs w/ protein is best, as well as taking creatine. In fact, I have
started taking creatine to combat the low BG thing. I think it may be
helping, but I only just started it a week ago and haven't really done a
long right since then (because of going clipless -- hmm -- I'm changing too
much stuff at once!)

So far, I have not seem my HR go above the 220 number. Of course, I don't
feel I'm near my max at 95%, but then who knows how that works? If I got to
my true max, what happens next? Will I have a heart attack while riding up
a hill? :) (I don't expect an reply to that)
 
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...


> ::: Have you not had any issues with low blood glucose after a long
> ::: ride while LCing, Badger? I seem to. This has been messing with
> ::: me since I started doing lots of miles. I don't seem to have
> ::: problems while on the bike, but about an hour or two afterwards, I
> ::: just run completely out of juice and feel like **** for the rest of
> ::: the day -- if I don't take in lots of carbs. Of course, on my
> ::: rides there are lots of hills and I repeatedly get up over 90% of
> ::: theoretical max heartrate (220 - 46 = 174). In fact, many times I
> ::: get upto 95%.
> ::
> :: You might want to take a shot at measuring your actual max HR, rather
> :: than using the 220 - age formula. For many people, especially ones
> :: who have stayed somewhat fit as they age, that gives you a number
> :: significantly lower than their actual max HR. I'm 43, and my
> :: measured max is anywhere from 7 to 15 bpm higher than that number
> :: would give me, depending on the exercise.
> ::
> :: When you are just starting out, that formula gives you a decent
> :: starting place, but as you work your way into shape, you should
> :: measure it once in a while to keep your training intensity at a
> :: proper level.
>
> I have my Polar s720i that claims to do something regarding max heart rate
> and V02max (I haven't gotten around to using it). Would that be sufficient


It might be, but I don't know anything about it. The easiest way to
find your max HR is simply to measure it. Get a good warmup ride for
15-30 minutes, then find a good long hill, and bust your ass all the way
up until you're ready to fall off. The highest reading you see through
the spots in front of your eyes is your max hr.

> or should I go looking elsewhere? There is a lab here that has a bodygem
> device that will measure your resting metabolic rate. I could ask there. I


If they have qualified people, that might be a good resource.
Unqualified people can be _wors_e than trial-and-error, though.

> really do need to get to the bottom of the low BG thing, one way or another.



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Roger Zoul wrote:
> I have my Polar s720i that claims to do something regarding max heart
> rate and V02max (I haven't gotten around to using it). Would that be
> sufficient or should I go looking elsewhere? There is a lab here
> that has a bodygem device that will measure your resting metabolic
> rate. I could ask there. I really do need to get to the bottom of
> the low BG thing, one way or another.


No the Polar HRMs will not approximate your HR correctly. I have turned mine
off and enter my HRmax manually. It's not rocket science, I just enter the
highest number I ever see while training. 2 years ago when I first bought my
HRM it was 185. Now it's 190. Close enough and definitely a lot closer than
the approximations. Theoretically I'm at 167 and Polar approx was about 175.
As for the Polar fitness test. I tested at 49 when I bought it two years
ago. Today after working out 5-6 times a week for two years and averaging
over 200 km a week I test at 48. Apart from these features I love it and it
has been a great help to me in getting to know my own body.
If I went to a lab and paid for a fullfledged test maybe I could squeese out
a HR of 192, maybe. That's how close I feel I am from just using a HRM.
Much more important than HRmax is learning where your different thresholds
are. Like how many minutes can I sustain above a certain HR before the
lactic acid gets me etc. Of course HR is not very accurate due to cardiac
drift, but it is a good help if you've gotten nothing else. Preferably a
Power meter.

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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]=20
says...
> Per Elms=E4ter wrote:
> :: Roger Zoul wrote:
> ::: Badger_South wrote:
> ::::: On 2 Jun 2004 19:17:39 -0700, [email protected] (Ryan W.)
> ::::: wrote:
> :::::
> :::::: Thus 25-30lbs in 8 weeks has not resulted in any bad side-effects
> :::::: for me, nor have I
> :::::: lost any significant muscle. Energy and drive have increased
> :::::: markedly, as well.
> ::::::
> ::::::
> ::::::
> :::::: Good for you. I have recently come to the same conclusion myself
> :::::: since my daily rides of between 12 and fifteen aren't taking
> :::::: anything off I've aspired to go for at least twenty a day and
> :::::: hopefully two-a-days. Good luck.
> :::::
> ::::: One thing about losing the weight by biking (or any exercise), is
> ::::: that it's pretty
> ::::: easy to keep it off, mostly. ;-)
> :::::
> ::::: Since my learning curve and ability on the bike is still climbing,
> ::::: and nowhere
> ::::: near leveling off, even occasional bad eating habits are oft
> ::::: thwarted. <g>
> :::::
> ::::: Still I avoid sugars, sweetened drinks, and white carbs
> ::::: completely, and drink lots
> ::::: of fluids.
> :::::
> ::::: It really helps being on vacation, b/c my host (brother) is an
> ::::: excellent cook
> ::::: and he is on a -very- strict low carb diet.
> :::::
> ::::: What worked for me was having two-a-days that I eventually merged.
> ::::: I.e., I'd ride
> ::::: two ten milers, about 4-8 hours apart, and then after a few weeks,
> ::::: I'd be ready
> ::::: to do one 20 miler, and later in the day a ten miler. I try to
> ::::: ride a long ride on Saturday and a fast ride on Sunday. Mondays,
> ::::: if I feel good, I'll push it again; if not, I'll ease up.
> :::::
> ::::: Good luck to you!
> :::
> ::: Have you not had any issues with low blood glucose after a long ride
> ::: while LCing, Badger? I seem to. This has been messing with me
> ::: since I started doing lots of miles. I don't seem to have problems
> ::: while on the bike, but about an hour or two afterwards, I just run
> ::: completely out of juice and feel like **** for the rest of the day
> ::: -- if I don't take in lots of carbs. Of course, on my rides there
> ::: are lots of hills and I repeatedly get up over 90% of theoretical
> ::: max heartrate (220 - 46 =3D 174). In fact, many times I get upto 95%=

..
> ::
> :: I'm often at 114% of my theoretical max heartrate during our normal
> :: sunday grouprides. Just to show you how theoretical these numbers
> :: are.
> :: Have you heard of the glycogene window? It's open maybe a little
> :: less than an hour after a hard workout. It's more open the closer to
> :: your ride you are. During this phase you can eat high GI carbs
> :: without raising your insulin level or creating a sugar rush and the
> :: ensuing crash. The carbs will be will go straight out into your
> :: muscles and stored as glycogen, thus starting the recovery process.
> :: You might wan't to look into what you eat or drink right after a
> :: workout. I try to stick something in my mouth before I even get to
> :: the showers. Even plain white sugar is better than nothing at this
> :: point. Some fruit is probably a lot better.
>=20
> Thanks....I'll look into the glycogene window. I have read that some amou=

nt
> of carbs w/ protein is best, as well as taking creatine. In fact, I have
> started taking creatine to combat the low BG thing. I think it may be
> helping, but I only just started it a week ago and haven't really done a
> long right since then (because of going clipless -- hmm -- I'm changing t=

oo
> much stuff at once!)
>=20
> So far, I have not seem my HR go above the 220 number. Of course, I don'=

t
> feel I'm near my max at 95%, but then who knows how that works? If I got=

to
> my true max, what happens next? Will I have a heart attack while riding =

up
> a hill? :) (I don't expect an reply to that)



IANAD, but I'll answer anyway <Grin>. Assuming you are in decent shape=20
and have no other major risk factors for a heart attack, then it's=20
unlikely. You just won't be able to get your heart rate any higher, or=20
go any harder or faster no matter how badly you want to, and you won't=20
be able to keep it up for very long. If it feels like you're doing your=20
max, then you probably are, or at least very close to it. You just have=20
to maintain it for a little while (10 - 20 sec, IME) to make sure your=20
heart rate has caught up to your exertion level.


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Roger Zoul wrote:
> So far, I have not seem my HR go above the 220 number. Of course, I
> don't feel I'm near my max at 95%, but then who knows how that works?
> If I got to my true max, what happens next? Will I have a heart
> attack while riding up a hill? :) (I don't expect an reply to that)


Reaching your HRmax is not harmful to an otherwise healthy person.
I max out, or real close, sometimes several times a month and I'm 53 years
old. If you feel uncertain about that you shouldn't even be ridin at a
theoretical 95%.

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Per Elmsäter wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: So far, I have not seem my HR go above the 220 number. Of course, I
::: don't feel I'm near my max at 95%, but then who knows how that
::: works? If I got to my true max, what happens next? Will I have a
::: heart attack while riding up a hill? :) (I don't expect an reply to
::: that)
::
:: Reaching your HRmax is not harmful to an otherwise healthy person.
:: I max out, or real close, sometimes several times a month and I'm 53
:: years old. If you feel uncertain about that you shouldn't even be
:: ridin at a theoretical 95%.

I don't feel uncertain doing the activity that gets me to a 220-age
theoretical of 95%......but just looking at the numbers and wondering :)
I've done it many times over.
 
Per Elmsäter wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: I have my Polar s720i that claims to do something regarding max
::: heart rate and V02max (I haven't gotten around to using it). Would
::: that be sufficient or should I go looking elsewhere? There is a
::: lab here that has a bodygem device that will measure your resting
::: metabolic rate. I could ask there. I really do need to get to the
::: bottom of the low BG thing, one way or another.
::
:: No the Polar HRMs will not approximate your HR correctly. I have
:: turned mine off and enter my HRmax manually. It's not rocket
:: science, I just enter the highest number I ever see while training.
:: 2 years ago when I first bought my HRM it was 185. Now it's 190.
:: Close enough and definitely a lot closer than the approximations.
:: Theoretically I'm at 167 and Polar approx was about 175. As for the
:: Polar fitness test. I tested at 49 when I bought it two years ago.
:: Today after working out 5-6 times a week for two years and averaging
:: over 200 km a week I test at 48. Apart from these features I love it
:: and it has been a great help to me in getting to know my own body.
:: If I went to a lab and paid for a fullfledged test maybe I could
:: squeese out a HR of 192, maybe. That's how close I feel I am from
:: just using a HRM. Much more important than HRmax is learning where
:: your different thresholds are. Like how many minutes can I sustain
:: above a certain HR before the lactic acid gets me etc. Of course HR
:: is not very accurate due to cardiac drift, but it is a good help if
:: you've gotten nothing else. Preferably a Power meter.

Okay....I think I'll follow this route...one question: everyone I know of
how does not use the 220-age formula always quote a higher actual max
heartrate. Anyone ever find that their max is lower than then 220-age
formula?

::
:: --
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::
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Roger Zoul wrote:
> Okay....I think I'll follow this route...one question: everyone I
> know of how does not use the 220-age formula always quote a higher
> actual max heartrate. Anyone ever find that their max is lower than
> then 220-age formula?


I ride with several people that have way lower HRmax than the 220-age
nubers. One dude has 160 as his HRmax and he's barely 40 y/o. I have to eat
his dust any day he cranks it up.

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David Kerber wrote:
:: In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
:: says...
::
::
:::::: Have you not had any issues with low blood glucose after a long
:::::: ride while LCing, Badger? I seem to. This has been messing with
:::::: me since I started doing lots of miles. I don't seem to have
:::::: problems while on the bike, but about an hour or two afterwards,
:::::: I just run completely out of juice and feel like **** for the
:::::: rest of the day -- if I don't take in lots of carbs. Of course,
:::::: on my rides there are lots of hills and I repeatedly get up over
:::::: 90% of theoretical max heartrate (220 - 46 = 174). In fact,
:::::: many times I get upto 95%.
:::::
::::: You might want to take a shot at measuring your actual max HR,
::::: rather than using the 220 - age formula. For many people,
::::: especially ones who have stayed somewhat fit as they age, that
::::: gives you a number significantly lower than their actual max HR.
::::: I'm 43, and my measured max is anywhere from 7 to 15 bpm higher
::::: than that number would give me, depending on the exercise.
:::::
::::: When you are just starting out, that formula gives you a decent
::::: starting place, but as you work your way into shape, you should
::::: measure it once in a while to keep your training intensity at a
::::: proper level.
:::
::: I have my Polar s720i that claims to do something regarding max
::: heart rate and V02max (I haven't gotten around to using it). Would
::: that be sufficient
::
:: It might be, but I don't know anything about it. The easiest way to
:: find your max HR is simply to measure it. Get a good warmup ride for
:: 15-30 minutes, then find a good long hill, and bust your ass all the
:: way up until you're ready to fall off. The highest reading you see
:: through the spots in front of your eyes is your max hr.

That's pretty easy....I could do it on my stationary, too, rather than risk
falling or getting hit on a long hill.

::
::: or should I go looking elsewhere? There is a lab here that has a
::: bodygem device that will measure your resting metabolic rate. I
::: could ask there. I
::
:: If they have qualified people, that might be a good resource.
:: Unqualified people can be _wors_e than trial-and-error, though.

Yeah, and I have no real means to know if they know what they're doing.
 
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> :: It might be, but I don't know anything about it. The easiest way to
> :: find your max HR is simply to measure it. Get a good warmup ride for
> :: 15-30 minutes, then find a good long hill, and bust your ass all the
> :: way up until you're ready to fall off. The highest reading you see
> :: through the spots in front of your eyes is your max hr.
>
> That's pretty easy....I could do it on my stationary, too, rather than risk
> falling or getting hit on a long hill.


If you have the will power to push that hard on a stationary bike, then
that would work. I find it mentally a lot easier to push myself to the
max when I'm actually going somewhere.


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