CJ Smith said:Thanks for the photo... I was gonna eat dinner this evening, but now I think I will skip it...
scary eh???
Who is on the list of BANNED, GUILTY FIRED etc. cyclists due to doping
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scary eh???
CJ Smith said:
The person you are trying to remember could be either Raimondas Rumsas, or it could have been Dario Frigo. But im almost sure it was Rumsas, because if i recall right he was out of the country and his wife had to sit in jail for 3 months i believe. I could be wrong though.
long sordid taledoctorSpoc said:
vialdoctorSpoc said:
I am not making fun of you dude, just assuming English is not your first language. I am learning another language myself and I know how much a pain in the a$$ it can be.
Thanks for the info on the B samples.
Sense of humor dude.....Doc Spoc has no problems with the english language, I'm sure he was just exercising some poetic license.3rensho said:
I thought it was kinda clever when he posted that line.
-Dave
[edit]PS I see you're just learning the language, after getting the basics you'll find there's an endless amount of slang, colloquialisms, and then just plain basterdizations that don't show up in the text books. Docs play on words is one way we tend to mess with the king's english. Good luck and figure out all those implicit plurals which tend to drive non english speakers crazy.
I'm sorry but I've never seen your name or picture in any big race results, like you try to compare to Pro cyclists... and oh, yes, everyone doped but meCJ Smith said:
< ____ > (in the 90's with EPO)
ddfffCJ Smith said:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/special_report/1998/07/98/tour_de_france/134842.stm
Along with Virenque his Festina teammates were Alex Zulle, Pascal Herve, Laurent Dufaux, Christophe Moreau, Armin Meier, Didier Rous and Neil Stephens. They were all thrown out of 1998 TdF.
1987
Mark Walsham, Great Britain
Willi Tackaert, Belgium
2008
Barloworld
Moisés Dueñas Nevado
Frankie Andreu (He is the lisping guy
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/12/sports/othersports/12cycling.html?scp=7&sq=cyclist%20EPO&st=cse
I am all for a lifetime ban on cyclists Pro or otherwise giving the rest of us a bad name… I know that paying attention to this sport is probably more prominent in Europe than it will ever be here in the US, but someone should make a real stand… You want to ban Astana… Great (Stupid).. Then hand out lifetime bans to riders as well… Otherwise the world gets filled with guys who make Hall of Fames like drug addicts that struggle to come clean. i.e. Lawrence Taylor from the NFL. How many times was he given a second chance… There were so many stories about him on the news … even after retirement that it all blurred into one story. Now over time people are forgetting his actions because of other sports bad boys. These are the role models of our children? IS this all we have? The best we can do? NICE! I don’t even want to touch upon baseball… I have lost faith in the serious depth of it’s governing body. I used to say, “Barry Bonds!” That became, “Barry who?” which changed into, “Barry? Who cares!” It is that final label that the players want most, that means people have begun giving up the convictions and the issue is that much closer to slipping from mind… it isn’t forgiveness it becomes more like forget-ness and that is not a proper sentence for substance abuse. The worst thing is it becomes a terrible teaching tool to future generations of athletes.
In closing I want to say that it would be great if we could differentiate between drug addicts, cheaters and athletes.
Just our of curiosity, have you ever worked in a lab analyzing urine? I have, it would not be hard to corrupt a sample to create a false positive is you wanted to. Having said that I really do not have a doubt that most of the cyclist from the 1999 tour were on something. At that time they were way ahead of the testers and the only way to get caught really was for the police to raid your hotel room and catch you using. I wonder from the retroactive study, were any of the results from other riders released? I do not remember them being release, it was merely Armstrong's who were released because the French have it out for him. If they wanted to clean up the sport they should start with the French teams from that time, that was where the worst of the cheaters were.
doctorSpoc said:
COMPARE?youhaditcoming said:
The "us" terminology used in a previous posting of mine refers to the cycling sport as one general body of people that enjoy the sport... This includes the low end bike shop owners and workers who get looked at or questioned by those who have no idea what is what within the sport we love. Not excluded in my usage of the term "us" is the American grandpa enthusiast, who was 40 and proud when LeMond won for the first time and still can't shake his love for the sport - even through all the drug circuses held annually. This is not just people who dress like (or copyright infringe the image of) Captain America (if that is your thing), or those who are wearing their aero/gremlin helmets on a routine Saturday club ride .
MY NAME?
I would never use my real name in a forum anyway... So you would never know if I was mentioned in any race results or not.
CLOSING:
In closing, please allow me to mention, through a simple and gentle explanation (leaving forked tongues at the door) that perhaps you should reread the posting topic. Notice that the posting was a question? One you overlooked and unfortunately failed to answer, but that is ok. Reread it again and the forum will both forgive you and give you another chance to reply. Mistakes happen, but I believe you are better than that. If I am incorrect (wouldn't be the first time), then to you I say, "You are the weakest link.. GOODBYE".
Good old Tommy Simpson.
Supposedly when he died in the Tour back in the late 60's (I think) he was on three or more illegal drugs.
Still an amazing story, though.
Supposedly when he died in the Tour back in the late 60's (I think) he was on three or more illegal drugs.
Still an amazing story, though.
