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  1. In article <[email hidden]>,

    DRCEEPHD said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Will a Chiropractic "Adjustment"...
    From: "mdd" [email hidden]
    Date: 1/29/04 10:38 PM Eastern Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Did you actually think that its 4,000 years of acupuncture/herbal
    history somehow gave it dispensation from the gods for this health
    disaster? Well it didn't. So there.


    Oh, I donno, it just seemed like the right thing to do, considering the
    players.

    The nation that did not suffer from the flu pandemic of 1918 was Denmark

    A medical doctor was put in charge of feeding the people during WW1. I think
    his name was Henhede, or something like that.
    He had all the animals shot and gave the food to the people, thus converting
    the whole nation to living as vegetarians.

    Denmark did not suffer from the flu pandemic.

    Guess why?

    Because, as usual, you made it up. Denmark did suffer from the flu
    pandemic, and it says so on their own official web page; see

    http://www.um.dk/english/danmark/danmarksbog/kap3/3-7-3.asp#3-7-3

    (next to last paragraph).

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  2. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Will a Chiropractic "Adjustment"...
    From: [email hidden]
    Date: 1/30/2004 7:40 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Lordy, can we NEVER escape Dr. "C''s Tall Tales???

    Who is we? and are you selective with tall tales??

    Perhaps you prefer the rambling and lies from the debunkers?
    It appears you are one of the *gang*.

    Jan

  3. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Will a Chiropractic "Adjustment"...
    From: [email hidden]
    Date: 1/30/2004 7:40 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Lordy, can we NEVER escape Dr. "C''s Tall Tales???

    Who is we? and are you selective with tall tales??

    Perhaps you prefer the rambling and lies from the debunkers?
    It appears you are one of the *gang*.

    Congrats to Kathy!

    Welcome aboard.

    Just DO NOT let Jan know your religion.

  4. mdd said:

    "Mark ProbertJanuary 29, 2004" <[email hidden]> wrote
    in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Did China have a problem with the "Great Flu Epidemic"? If not, why?
    Might
    it be that the Chinese had effective methods to deal with such?

    Quoted message said:

    Now, can YOU document that the Flu Pandemic was as you claim in China?
    Remember, this is a claim that YOU made, and your proof is to be readily
    available, and verifiable. "My mommy told me so" is not proof.


    Will you please explain exactly where I made any "claim" about the flu
    pandemic in China? It looks like I asked a question about it.

    Oh my god, that's good. If no one called you on your implication that
    China had no flu problem, you "win". If someone does point out that China
    had a flu problem, you can say you never made the claim in the first
    place. Absolutely brilliant. Clinton would be proud. Absolute
    deniability.

    Sir, I salute you.

    By the way, did anyone hear about mmd having mental problems? If so, what
    would be a proper course of treatment?

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Jojo said:
    mdd said:

    "Mark ProbertJanuary 29, 2004" <[email hidden]> wrote
    in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    > Did China have a problem with the "Great Flu Epidemic"? If not, why?
    > Might
    > it be that the Chinese had effective methods to deal with such?

    Quoted message said:

    Now, can YOU document that the Flu Pandemic was as you claim in China?
    Remember, this is a claim that YOU made, and your proof is to be readily
    available, and verifiable. "My mommy told me so" is not proof.


    Will you please explain exactly where I made any "claim" about the flu
    pandemic in China? It looks like I asked a question about it.

    Oh my god, that's good. If no one called you on your implication that
    China had no flu problem, you "win". If someone does point out that China
    had a flu problem, you can say you never made the claim in the first
    place. Absolutely brilliant. Clinton would be proud. Absolute
    deniability.

    Sir, I salute you.

    By the way, did anyone hear about mmd having mental problems? If so, what
    would be a proper course of treatment?

    The first line of defense is urine therapy.

    If that doesn't work, repeated blows to the head with a fireplace
    poker would be my recommendation.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  6. "David Wright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Jojo said:
    mdd said:

    "Mark ProbertJanuary 29, 2004" <[email hidden]>


    wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    in message news:[email hidden]...
    > > Did China have a problem with the "Great Flu Epidemic"? If not, why?
    > > Might
    > > it be that the Chinese had effective methods to deal with such?

    > Now, can YOU document that the Flu Pandemic was as you claim in China?
    > Remember, this is a claim that YOU made, and your proof is to be


    readily

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > available, and verifiable. "My mommy told me so" is not proof.
    >
    Will you please explain exactly where I made any "claim" about the flu
    pandemic in China? It looks like I asked a question about it.

    Oh my god, that's good. If no one called you on your implication that
    China had no flu problem, you "win". If someone does point out that


    China

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    had a flu problem, you can say you never made the claim in the first
    place. Absolutely brilliant. Clinton would be proud. Absolute
    deniability.

    Sir, I salute you.

    By the way, did anyone hear about mmd having mental problems? If so, what
    would be a proper course of treatment?

    The first line of defense is urine therapy.

    If that doesn't work, repeated blows to the head with a fireplace
    poker would be my recommendation.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)


    ?????????????

  7. "Jojo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    mdd said:

    "Mark ProbertJanuary 29, 2004" <[email hidden]>


    wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    > Did China have a problem with the "Great Flu Epidemic"? If not, why?
    > Might
    > it be that the Chinese had effective methods to deal with such?

    Quoted message said:

    Now, can YOU document that the Flu Pandemic was as you claim in China?
    Remember, this is a claim that YOU made, and your proof is to be


    readily

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    available, and verifiable. "My mommy told me so" is not proof.


    Will you please explain exactly where I made any "claim" about the flu
    pandemic in China? It looks like I asked a question about it.

    Oh my god, that's good. If no one called you on your implication that
    China had no flu problem, you "win". If someone does point out that China
    had a flu problem, you can say you never made the claim in the first
    place. Absolutely brilliant. Clinton would be proud. Absolute
    deniability.

    I was attempting to draw out mdd's intellectual dishonesty, and I did. Thank
    you for pointing it out as well.

    Quoted message said:

    Sir, I salute you.

    mdd deserves a 21 anus salute.

    Quoted message said:

    By the way, did anyone hear about mmd having mental problems? If so, what
    would be a proper course of treatment?

    First, mdd would have to find s/h/it's mind.

  8. "Mark ProbertJanuary 31, 2004" <[email hidden]> wrote
    in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Jojo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    mdd said:

    "Mark ProbertJanuary 29, 2004" <[email hidden]>


    wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    in message news:[email hidden]...
    > > Did China have a problem with the "Great Flu Epidemic"? If not,


    why?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > Might
    > > it be that the Chinese had effective methods to deal with such?

    > Now, can YOU document that the Flu Pandemic was as you claim in


    China?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Remember, this is a claim that YOU made, and your proof is to be


    readily

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > available, and verifiable. "My mommy told me so" is not proof.
    >
    Will you please explain exactly where I made any "claim" about the flu
    pandemic in China? It looks like I asked a question about it.

    Oh my god, that's good. If no one called you on your implication that
    China had no flu problem, you "win". If someone does point out that


    China

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    had a flu problem, you can say you never made the claim in the first
    place. Absolutely brilliant. Clinton would be proud. Absolute
    deniability.

    I was attempting to draw out mdd's intellectual dishonesty, and I did.


    Thank

    Quoted message said:

    you for pointing it out as well.

    Quoted message said:

    Sir, I salute you.

    mdd deserves a 21 anus salute.

    Quoted message said:

    By the way, did anyone hear about mmd having mental problems? If so,


    what

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    would be a proper course of treatment?

    First, mdd would have to find s/h/it's mind.


    Wow! I had never witnessed someone giving themselves a BJ online before you
    MARK. Bravo! Do it some more. Will you sell a video of it?

  9. "mdd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Mark ProbertJanuary 31, 2004" <[email hidden]> wrote
    in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Jojo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:25:36 -0600, mdd wrote:

    > "Mark ProbertJanuary 29, 2004" <[email hidden]>


    wrote

    Quoted message said:

    > in message news:[email hidden]...
    >> > Did China have a problem with the "Great Flu Epidemic"? If not,


    why?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> > Might
    >> > it be that the Chinese had effective methods to deal with such?
    >
    >> Now, can YOU document that the Flu Pandemic was as you claim in


    China?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> Remember, this is a claim that YOU made, and your proof is to be


    readily

    Quoted message said:

    >> available, and verifiable. "My mommy told me so" is not proof.
    >>
    > Will you please explain exactly where I made any "claim" about the


    flu

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > pandemic in China? It looks like I asked a question about it.

    Oh my god, that's good. If no one called you on your implication that
    China had no flu problem, you "win". If someone does point out that


    China

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    had a flu problem, you can say you never made the claim in the first
    place. Absolutely brilliant. Clinton would be proud. Absolute
    deniability.

    I was attempting to draw out mdd's intellectual dishonesty, and I did.


    Thank

    Quoted message said:

    you for pointing it out as well.

    Quoted message said:

    Sir, I salute you.

    mdd deserves a 21 anus salute.

    Quoted message said:

    By the way, did anyone hear about mmd having mental problems? If so,


    what

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    would be a proper course of treatment?

    First, mdd would have to find s/h/it's mind.


    Wow! I had never witnessed someone giving themselves a BJ online before


    you

    Quoted message said:

    MARK. Bravo! Do it some more. Will you sell a video of it?

    If Jan Drew is not a total hypocrite, she will condemn you for your bad
    talk.

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    -Yoshimo

  11. mdd said:

    "Mark ProbertJanuary 31, 2004" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Jojo said:

    By the way, did anyone hear about mmd having mental problems? If so,


    what

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    would be a proper course of treatment?

    First, mdd would have to find s/h/it's mind.


    Wow! I had never witnessed someone giving themselves a BJ online before you
    MARK. Bravo! Do it some more. Will you sell a video of it?

    You should get with Jan. He or she thinks I'm Joel.

  12. Quoted message said:

    Wow! I had never witnessed someone giving themselves a BJ online before

    That's a bit too much background information on your web-surfing habits.

    you

    Quoted message said:

    MARK. Bravo! Do it some more.

    Quoted message said:

    Will you sell a video of it?

    Ilena might be willing to pitch such a project as masturbation videos feature
    prominently in her past.

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  14. "Jojo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    mdd said:

    "Mark ProbertJanuary 31, 2004" <[email hidden]>


    wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Jojo" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > By the way, did anyone hear about mmd having mental problems? If so,


    what

    Quoted message said:

    > would be a proper course of treatment?

    First, mdd would have to find s/h/it's mind.


    Wow! I had never witnessed someone giving themselves a BJ online before


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    MARK. Bravo! Do it some more. Will you sell a video of it?

    You should get with Jan. He or she thinks I'm Joel.


    Who cares who you are?

  15. "Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Wow! I had never witnessed someone giving themselves a BJ online before

    That's a bit too much background information on your web-surfing habits.

    you

    Quoted message said:

    MARK. Bravo! Do it some more.

    Quoted message said:

    Will you sell a video of it?

    Ilena might be willing to pitch such a project as masturbation videos


    feature

    Quoted message said:

    prominently in her past.


    The only way you would know about such a thing, would because of your deep
    involvement in films of the type. By the way how DID your last shoot go? Did
    they ever pay you?

  16. mdd said:

    "Jojo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    mdd said:

    "Mark ProbertJanuary 31, 2004" <[email hidden]>


    wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > "Jojo" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > > By the way, did anyone hear about mmd having mental problems? If so,
    what
    > > would be a proper course of treatment?
    >
    > First, mdd would have to find s/h/it's mind.
    >
    Wow! I had never witnessed someone giving themselves a BJ online before


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    MARK. Bravo! Do it some more. Will you sell a video of it?

    You should get with Jan. He or she thinks I'm Joel.


    Who cares who you are?

    So far, apparently, you and Jan.

  17. "Jojo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    mdd said:

    "Jojo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:59:14 -0600, mdd wrote:
    > "Mark ProbertJanuary 31, 2004" <[email hidden]>


    wrote

    Quoted message said:

    >> "Jojo" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> > By the way, did anyone hear about mmd having mental problems? If


    so,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > what
    >> > would be a proper course of treatment?
    >>
    >> First, mdd would have to find s/h/it's mind.
    >>
    > Wow! I had never witnessed someone giving themselves a BJ online


    before

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    you

    Quoted message said:

    > MARK. Bravo! Do it some more. Will you sell a video of it?

    You should get with Jan. He or she thinks I'm Joel.


    Who cares who you are?

    So far, apparently, you and Jan.


    You may now join the other nobody. Bye booboo.

  18. mdd said:

    "Jojo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    mdd said:

    "Jojo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:59:14 -0600, mdd wrote:
    > > "Mark ProbertJanuary 31, 2004" <[email hidden]>
    wrote
    > >> "Jojo" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >> > By the way, did anyone hear about mmd having mental problems? If


    so,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > what
    > >> > would be a proper course of treatment?
    > >>
    > >> First, mdd would have to find s/h/it's mind.
    > >>
    > > Wow! I had never witnessed someone giving themselves a BJ online


    before

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    you
    > > MARK. Bravo! Do it some more. Will you sell a video of it?
    >
    > You should get with Jan. He or she thinks I'm Joel.
    >
    Who cares who you are?

    So far, apparently, you and Jan.


    You may now join the other nobody. Bye booboo.

    Can someone translate this for me? I'll be damned if I know what it
    means.

  19. "Peter Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    working for preventing/treating the Flu?

    That's what Donald E. Harte, a chiropractic doctor in Corte Madera, CA,
    asserts in today's Open Forum column in the San Francisco Chronicle.
    (Perhaps someone better than I can "link it" as I can't currently do so
    with my webtv system as far as I know).

    Anyway, the article is entitled "Alternative to the Sting of a Failed
    Flu Vaccine". He does use some imprssive numbers freom the 1918 Flu
    Epidemic, though Homeopatic Doctors used somehat the same impressive
    numbers for that 1918 Epidemic too, though their choices of cities was
    different.

    Are these figures supposedly showing the effectiveness of those


    modalities?

    Quoted message said:

    If so, they are almost certainly completely fabricated. Properly


    designed

    Quoted message said:

    studies were hardly known within mainstream medicine in those days.
    Chiropractic has NEVER performed any rigorous clinical studies, and
    homeopathy has only ever done so in the last decade or so, without very
    convincing results.

    Peter Moran

    Sorry Peter, but you are a little outdated in your knowledge. Studies are
    coming in fast and furious these days.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
  20. Peter Moran:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Properly
    designed

    Quoted message said:

    studies were hardly known within mainstream medicine in those days.
    Chiropractic has NEVER performed any rigorous clinical studies, and
    homeopathy has only ever done so in the last decade or so, without very
    convincing results.

    Peter Moran


    Fred aka Stuart:

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry Peter, but you are a little outdated in your knowledge. Studies are
    coming in fast and furious these days.

    Please post some high-quality studies which show positive results.

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