Site to watch for TDF04 detailed route?

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Bob Schwartz wrote:
> Robert Chung <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Not that it really helps. You need a sharp-eyed map-
>> reading co-pilot to go someplace new. French maps and
>> signage don't allow a solo driver to get anywhere unless
>> he already knows the way; I think they're just for
>> affirmation.
>
> I bought a mapping GPS a few years back. At the time I
> thought it was pretty decadent, but it has proven to be
> very valuable when driving in places with indifferent road
> signage. Like France.
>
> Bob Schwartz [email protected]

France is the only country I've driven in where you can be
sure you're on the right track when you DON'T see a sign for
your destination (unless you count the occasional "Toutes
Directions" as your destination).

 

[Smmb]

"Roy Ellefsen" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de :
news:[email protected]...

> The scale of the "cartes locales" is slightly different
> from those in your
touring atlas,
> mostly in the 1:150 000-1:175 000 range, but the content
> and the level of
detail are exactly the same
> (excepting the fact that the cartes locales tend to be
> newer and contain
more updated information).
> Thus, you should stick to the atlas unless you want maps
> that are slightly
easier to read.
> Another note: the Motoring Atlas has a notoriously bad
> index. The cartes
locales are no better
> and have only very rudimentary index information.
>
> The only alternative to the Michelin series would be the
> TOP 100 from IGN, formerly known as the "Green Series".
> These cover all of France in a 1:100
000
> scale. I don't think you should buy these either as the
> topograhpic
information makes
> them more difficult to use as roadmaps.
>
> http://www.ign.fr/affiche_rubrique.asp?rbr_id=1079&l-
> ng_id=FR
>
http://www.stanfords.co.uk/seriesdetails/mapseries?series_i-
d=297&loc_id=661&cat_id=568&seriescount=74
>
> --
> Roy Ellefsen
>
Just replacing old maps today, at Auchan, I found the new
ZOOM series - Michelin. They are as detailed as 1:25 000,
and the ones I got were 1: 53
000. Plenty of detail, and the printing is very clear -
much clearer than the old ones. Regional maps are
1:275 000, and departmental ones are 1:100
1.

You may just want to wait until you get here, since there
are many other mapmakers sold commonly at stores.
--
Bonne route,

Sandy Paris FR

 

[Ewoud Dronkert]

On Tue, 25 May 2004 21:12:54 +0200, SMMB wrote:
>You may just want to wait until you get here, since there
>are many other mapmakers sold commonly at stores.

And it's a lot cheaper. But I always buy the maps when
still at home, because studying them beforehand is half
the fun. Ah, for the endless hours of pleasure with the
Atlas des Cols!

 

[Mike Jacoubowsk]

Next time I'm in France (this coming July), I swear I'm
going to break down and buy their "Streets USA" equivalent.
I didn't feel confident enough to use a French-language
mapping program before, but now that I've had a few lessons
from Madame Marilyn...

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

 

[Ewoud Dronkert]

On Wed, 26 May 2004 03:54:18 GMT, Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> I didn't feel confident enough to use a French-language
> mapping program before

Huh, isn't a translation just an extra obstacle? ("Pouvez-
vous me dire où sont les Divine Fields?").

 

[Dennis P. Harri]

On Tue, 25 May 2004 11:41:44 GMT in rec.bicycles.racing, "Roy
Ellefsen" <[email protected]> wrote:

> The only alternative to the Michelin series would be the
> TOP 100 from IGN, formerly known as the "Green Series".
> These cover all of France in a 1:100 000 scale. I don't
> think you should buy these either as the topograhpic
> information makes them more difficult to use as roadmaps.
>
uhhh... some us want them *because* of the contour info,
especially if we're on a bike!

 

[Ewoud Dronkert]

On Sat, 29 May 2004 16:03:14 -0800, Dennis P. Harris wrote:
>uhhh... some us want them *because* of the contour info,
>especially if we're on a bike!

Michelin prints height above sea level almost everywhere
where it matters, and has a much clearer road map image.

 

[Roy Ellefsen]

"Dennis P. Harris" <[email protected]> skrev i melding news[email protected]...
> On Tue, 25 May 2004 11:41:44 GMT in rec.bicycles.racing,
> "Roy Ellefsen" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The only alternative to the Michelin series would be the
> > TOP 100 from IGN, formerly known as the "Green Series".
> > These cover all of France in a 1:100 000 scale. I don't
> > think you should buy these either as the topograhpic
> > information makes them more difficult to use as
> > roadmaps.
> >
> uhhh... some us want them *because* of the contour info,
> especially if we're on a bike!
>
>

No doubt, we do, but in this particular case I feel that the
TOP 100 IGN maps are less helpfull than the regular Michelin
maps which indicate spot heights, distances and gradients
aplenty. Besides I don't think the OP was going to use the
maps for riding in France.

(OT: IGN Fr topo maps use an IMHO annoying form of relief
shading that makes the print too unclear).

--
Roy Ellefsen