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  1. Well said Luna.

    --
    Cheri

    Luna wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    Don't you ever wonder why you struggle so mightily to lose weight?

    No, I know why.

    Quoted message said:


    Every time I almost think that you might be intelligent, you quickly
    disabuse me of the notion.

    Hey, I'm not the one who thinks you can't lose weight if you eat
    vegetables.

    This wall between us, which breaks my heart so, comes from the
    differences in our world views. If the bottle of medicine says to


    take

    Quoted message said:

    one pill, I don't take three, erroneously thinking "if one is good,


    then

    Quoted message said:

    three would be even better!" If a person can lose weight while eating
    significantly less sugar than before, I similarily would not recommend
    that they should eat no sugar at all, not even the small amounts in
    low-carb vegetables.

    Anything, even good things, can be taken to ridiculous extremes, which
    is what you are doing with your version of what is and is not a


    low-carb

    Quoted message said:

    diet.

  2. Well said Luna.

    --
    Cheri

    Luna wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    Don't you ever wonder why you struggle so mightily to lose weight?

    No, I know why.

    Quoted message said:


    Every time I almost think that you might be intelligent, you quickly
    disabuse me of the notion.

    Hey, I'm not the one who thinks you can't lose weight if you eat
    vegetables.

    This wall between us, which breaks my heart so, comes from the
    differences in our world views. If the bottle of medicine says to


    take

    Quoted message said:

    one pill, I don't take three, erroneously thinking "if one is good,


    then

    Quoted message said:

    three would be even better!" If a person can lose weight while eating
    significantly less sugar than before, I similarily would not recommend
    that they should eat no sugar at all, not even the small amounts in
    low-carb vegetables.

    Anything, even good things, can be taken to ridiculous extremes, which
    is what you are doing with your version of what is and is not a


    low-carb

    Quoted message said:

    diet.

  3. Well said Luna.

    --
    Cheri

    Luna wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    Don't you ever wonder why you struggle so mightily to lose weight?

    No, I know why.

    Quoted message said:


    Every time I almost think that you might be intelligent, you quickly
    disabuse me of the notion.

    Hey, I'm not the one who thinks you can't lose weight if you eat
    vegetables.

    This wall between us, which breaks my heart so, comes from the
    differences in our world views. If the bottle of medicine says to


    take

    Quoted message said:

    one pill, I don't take three, erroneously thinking "if one is good,


    then

    Quoted message said:

    three would be even better!" If a person can lose weight while eating
    significantly less sugar than before, I similarily would not recommend
    that they should eat no sugar at all, not even the small amounts in
    low-carb vegetables.

    Anything, even good things, can be taken to ridiculous extremes, which
    is what you are doing with your version of what is and is not a


    low-carb

    Quoted message said:

    diet.

  4. No! You think JC says things arbitrarily? I'm shocked and dismayed.

    --
    Cheri

    [email hidden] wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    JC, you don't seem to have a consistent standard of what is "low
    carb."

    Best I can figure, you seem to be arbitrarily declaring certain foods
    "not low carb", even if the carb count per serving is less than a
    gram... for example, you just declared cream cheese as being "not low
    carb," even though a 2 tablespoon serving generally has less than 0.8
    grams of carbs per serving...

  5. No! You think JC says things arbitrarily? I'm shocked and dismayed.

    --
    Cheri

    [email hidden] wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    JC, you don't seem to have a consistent standard of what is "low
    carb."

    Best I can figure, you seem to be arbitrarily declaring certain foods
    "not low carb", even if the carb count per serving is less than a
    gram... for example, you just declared cream cheese as being "not low
    carb," even though a 2 tablespoon serving generally has less than 0.8
    grams of carbs per serving...

  6. No! You think JC says things arbitrarily? I'm shocked and dismayed.

    --
    Cheri

    [email hidden] wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    JC, you don't seem to have a consistent standard of what is "low
    carb."

    Best I can figure, you seem to be arbitrarily declaring certain foods
    "not low carb", even if the carb count per serving is less than a
    gram... for example, you just declared cream cheese as being "not low
    carb," even though a 2 tablespoon serving generally has less than 0.8
    grams of carbs per serving...

  7. No! You think JC says things arbitrarily? I'm shocked and dismayed.

    --
    Cheri

    [email hidden] wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    JC, you don't seem to have a consistent standard of what is "low
    carb."

    Best I can figure, you seem to be arbitrarily declaring certain foods
    "not low carb", even if the carb count per serving is less than a
    gram... for example, you just declared cream cheese as being "not low
    carb," even though a 2 tablespoon serving generally has less than 0.8
    grams of carbs per serving...

  8. No! You think JC says things arbitrarily? I'm shocked and dismayed.

    --
    Cheri

    [email hidden] wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    JC, you don't seem to have a consistent standard of what is "low
    carb."

    Best I can figure, you seem to be arbitrarily declaring certain foods
    "not low carb", even if the carb count per serving is less than a
    gram... for example, you just declared cream cheese as being "not low
    carb," even though a 2 tablespoon serving generally has less than 0.8
    grams of carbs per serving...

  9. No! You think JC says things arbitrarily? I'm shocked and dismayed.

    --
    Cheri

    [email hidden] wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    JC, you don't seem to have a consistent standard of what is "low
    carb."

    Best I can figure, you seem to be arbitrarily declaring certain foods
    "not low carb", even if the carb count per serving is less than a
    gram... for example, you just declared cream cheese as being "not low
    carb," even though a 2 tablespoon serving generally has less than 0.8
    grams of carbs per serving...

  10. "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    Don't you ever wonder why you struggle so mightily to lose weight?

    No, I know why.

    Oh, here we go again with the thing about you know how to lose weight you
    just don't feel like it right now.

    That's the ticket.

  11. "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    Don't you ever wonder why you struggle so mightily to lose weight?

    No, I know why.

    Oh, here we go again with the thing about you know how to lose weight you
    just don't feel like it right now.

    That's the ticket.

  12. "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    Don't you ever wonder why you struggle so mightily to lose weight?

    No, I know why.

    Oh, here we go again with the thing about you know how to lose weight you
    just don't feel like it right now.

    That's the ticket.

  13. "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    Don't you ever wonder why you struggle so mightily to lose weight?

    No, I know why.

    Oh, here we go again with the thing about you know how to lose weight you
    just don't feel like it right now.

    That's the ticket.

  14. "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    Don't you ever wonder why you struggle so mightily to lose weight?

    No, I know why.

    Oh, here we go again with the thing about you know how to lose weight you
    just don't feel like it right now.

    That's the ticket.

  15. "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    Don't you ever wonder why you struggle so mightily to lose weight?

    No, I know why.

    Oh, here we go again with the thing about you know how to lose weight you
    just don't feel like it right now.

    That's the ticket.

  16. For a "Dr.", you're kind of slow.

    Anyway, hard cheeses like aged cheddar are low carb because you can eat a
    considerable amount without a high carb count. With soft cheeses you can
    only eat a little bit or the carb count climbs too high, therefore they are
    not low carb.

    I don't expect you to understand. Ask me why.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    JC, you don't seem to have a consistent standard of what is "low
    carb."

    Best I can figure, you seem to be arbitrarily declaring certain foods

    Quoted message said:

    "not low carb", even if the carb count per serving is less than a
    gram... for example, you just declared cream cheese as being "not low
    carb," even though a 2 tablespoon serving generally has less than 0.8
    grams of carbs per serving...

    JC Der Koenig said:

    Don't you ever wonder why you struggle so mightily to lose weight?

    Every time I almost think that you might be intelligent, you quickly
    disabuse me of the notion.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ain't gonna. I don't think you must anything, but I do think you
    should
    be consistent. With any mention of bread or bread substitutes, you
    inform us that bread is not low-carb. If you really believe that
    low-carb dieting means you cannot eat any sugar at all, then you should
    also be saying "Broccoli is not low carb" and "Spinach is not low-carb"
    whenever those foods are mentioned. I would also like to see "Broccoli
    is how you got fat in the first place" pop up once in a while. And
    since you have confused the terms "low carb" and "no carb" I think you
    also should quit teaching math, since you do not know the difference
    between "zero" and "an amount greater than zero."

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > Many cheeses don't have sugar and those are the ones I choose to eat.
    > And
    > no, I don't eat vegetables when I'm low carbing. Go ahead and tell me
    > that
    > I must or should.
    >
    > --
    > Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. --
    > MFW
    >
    >
    > "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    > > In article <[email hidden]>,
    > > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> I said sugar is not low carb.
    > >>
    > >> If you eat sugar, you're not following a low carb diet.
    > >>
    > >> If you're on a low carb diet, you don't eat sugar.
    > >>
    > >> I'm sure that you're much too dense to understand any of this.
    > >>
    > >
    > > That's a bunch of bull. All vegetables and most cheeses have some
    > > sugar. So, by your logic, if you eat vegetables and cheese you're
    > > not
    > > on a low-carb diet. Which is [censored] and you know it.

    --
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick


  17. For a "Dr.", you're kind of slow.

    Anyway, hard cheeses like aged cheddar are low carb because you can eat a
    considerable amount without a high carb count. With soft cheeses you can
    only eat a little bit or the carb count climbs too high, therefore they are
    not low carb.

    I don't expect you to understand. Ask me why.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    JC, you don't seem to have a consistent standard of what is "low
    carb."

    Best I can figure, you seem to be arbitrarily declaring certain foods

    Quoted message said:

    "not low carb", even if the carb count per serving is less than a
    gram... for example, you just declared cream cheese as being "not low
    carb," even though a 2 tablespoon serving generally has less than 0.8
    grams of carbs per serving...

    JC Der Koenig said:

    Don't you ever wonder why you struggle so mightily to lose weight?

    Every time I almost think that you might be intelligent, you quickly
    disabuse me of the notion.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ain't gonna. I don't think you must anything, but I do think you
    should
    be consistent. With any mention of bread or bread substitutes, you
    inform us that bread is not low-carb. If you really believe that
    low-carb dieting means you cannot eat any sugar at all, then you should
    also be saying "Broccoli is not low carb" and "Spinach is not low-carb"
    whenever those foods are mentioned. I would also like to see "Broccoli
    is how you got fat in the first place" pop up once in a while. And
    since you have confused the terms "low carb" and "no carb" I think you
    also should quit teaching math, since you do not know the difference
    between "zero" and "an amount greater than zero."

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > Many cheeses don't have sugar and those are the ones I choose to eat.
    > And
    > no, I don't eat vegetables when I'm low carbing. Go ahead and tell me
    > that
    > I must or should.
    >
    > --
    > Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. --
    > MFW
    >
    >
    > "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    > > In article <[email hidden]>,
    > > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> I said sugar is not low carb.
    > >>
    > >> If you eat sugar, you're not following a low carb diet.
    > >>
    > >> If you're on a low carb diet, you don't eat sugar.
    > >>
    > >> I'm sure that you're much too dense to understand any of this.
    > >>
    > >
    > > That's a bunch of bull. All vegetables and most cheeses have some
    > > sugar. So, by your logic, if you eat vegetables and cheese you're
    > > not
    > > on a low-carb diet. Which is [censored] and you know it.

    --
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick


  18. For a "Dr.", you're kind of slow.

    Anyway, hard cheeses like aged cheddar are low carb because you can eat a
    considerable amount without a high carb count. With soft cheeses you can
    only eat a little bit or the carb count climbs too high, therefore they are
    not low carb.

    I don't expect you to understand. Ask me why.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    JC, you don't seem to have a consistent standard of what is "low
    carb."

    Best I can figure, you seem to be arbitrarily declaring certain foods

    Quoted message said:

    "not low carb", even if the carb count per serving is less than a
    gram... for example, you just declared cream cheese as being "not low
    carb," even though a 2 tablespoon serving generally has less than 0.8
    grams of carbs per serving...

    JC Der Koenig said:

    Don't you ever wonder why you struggle so mightily to lose weight?

    Every time I almost think that you might be intelligent, you quickly
    disabuse me of the notion.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ain't gonna. I don't think you must anything, but I do think you
    should
    be consistent. With any mention of bread or bread substitutes, you
    inform us that bread is not low-carb. If you really believe that
    low-carb dieting means you cannot eat any sugar at all, then you should
    also be saying "Broccoli is not low carb" and "Spinach is not low-carb"
    whenever those foods are mentioned. I would also like to see "Broccoli
    is how you got fat in the first place" pop up once in a while. And
    since you have confused the terms "low carb" and "no carb" I think you
    also should quit teaching math, since you do not know the difference
    between "zero" and "an amount greater than zero."

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > Many cheeses don't have sugar and those are the ones I choose to eat.
    > And
    > no, I don't eat vegetables when I'm low carbing. Go ahead and tell me
    > that
    > I must or should.
    >
    > --
    > Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. --
    > MFW
    >
    >
    > "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    > > In article <[email hidden]>,
    > > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> I said sugar is not low carb.
    > >>
    > >> If you eat sugar, you're not following a low carb diet.
    > >>
    > >> If you're on a low carb diet, you don't eat sugar.
    > >>
    > >> I'm sure that you're much too dense to understand any of this.
    > >>
    > >
    > > That's a bunch of bull. All vegetables and most cheeses have some
    > > sugar. So, by your logic, if you eat vegetables and cheese you're
    > > not
    > > on a low-carb diet. Which is [censored] and you know it.

    --
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick


  19. For a "Dr.", you're kind of slow.

    Anyway, hard cheeses like aged cheddar are low carb because you can eat a
    considerable amount without a high carb count. With soft cheeses you can
    only eat a little bit or the carb count climbs too high, therefore they are
    not low carb.

    I don't expect you to understand. Ask me why.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    JC, you don't seem to have a consistent standard of what is "low
    carb."

    Best I can figure, you seem to be arbitrarily declaring certain foods

    Quoted message said:

    "not low carb", even if the carb count per serving is less than a
    gram... for example, you just declared cream cheese as being "not low
    carb," even though a 2 tablespoon serving generally has less than 0.8
    grams of carbs per serving...

    JC Der Koenig said:

    Don't you ever wonder why you struggle so mightily to lose weight?

    Every time I almost think that you might be intelligent, you quickly
    disabuse me of the notion.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ain't gonna. I don't think you must anything, but I do think you
    should
    be consistent. With any mention of bread or bread substitutes, you
    inform us that bread is not low-carb. If you really believe that
    low-carb dieting means you cannot eat any sugar at all, then you should
    also be saying "Broccoli is not low carb" and "Spinach is not low-carb"
    whenever those foods are mentioned. I would also like to see "Broccoli
    is how you got fat in the first place" pop up once in a while. And
    since you have confused the terms "low carb" and "no carb" I think you
    also should quit teaching math, since you do not know the difference
    between "zero" and "an amount greater than zero."

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > Many cheeses don't have sugar and those are the ones I choose to eat.
    > And
    > no, I don't eat vegetables when I'm low carbing. Go ahead and tell me
    > that
    > I must or should.
    >
    > --
    > Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. --
    > MFW
    >
    >
    > "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    > > In article <[email hidden]>,
    > > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> I said sugar is not low carb.
    > >>
    > >> If you eat sugar, you're not following a low carb diet.
    > >>
    > >> If you're on a low carb diet, you don't eat sugar.
    > >>
    > >> I'm sure that you're much too dense to understand any of this.
    > >>
    > >
    > > That's a bunch of bull. All vegetables and most cheeses have some
    > > sugar. So, by your logic, if you eat vegetables and cheese you're
    > > not
    > > on a low-carb diet. Which is [censored] and you know it.

    --
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick


  20. For a "Dr.", you're kind of slow.

    Anyway, hard cheeses like aged cheddar are low carb because you can eat a
    considerable amount without a high carb count. With soft cheeses you can
    only eat a little bit or the carb count climbs too high, therefore they are
    not low carb.

    I don't expect you to understand. Ask me why.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    JC, you don't seem to have a consistent standard of what is "low
    carb."

    Best I can figure, you seem to be arbitrarily declaring certain foods

    Quoted message said:

    "not low carb", even if the carb count per serving is less than a
    gram... for example, you just declared cream cheese as being "not low
    carb," even though a 2 tablespoon serving generally has less than 0.8
    grams of carbs per serving...

    JC Der Koenig said:

    Don't you ever wonder why you struggle so mightily to lose weight?

    Every time I almost think that you might be intelligent, you quickly
    disabuse me of the notion.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ain't gonna. I don't think you must anything, but I do think you
    should
    be consistent. With any mention of bread or bread substitutes, you
    inform us that bread is not low-carb. If you really believe that
    low-carb dieting means you cannot eat any sugar at all, then you should
    also be saying "Broccoli is not low carb" and "Spinach is not low-carb"
    whenever those foods are mentioned. I would also like to see "Broccoli
    is how you got fat in the first place" pop up once in a while. And
    since you have confused the terms "low carb" and "no carb" I think you
    also should quit teaching math, since you do not know the difference
    between "zero" and "an amount greater than zero."

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > Many cheeses don't have sugar and those are the ones I choose to eat.
    > And
    > no, I don't eat vegetables when I'm low carbing. Go ahead and tell me
    > that
    > I must or should.
    >
    > --
    > Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. --
    > MFW
    >
    >
    > "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    > > In article <[email hidden]>,
    > > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> I said sugar is not low carb.
    > >>
    > >> If you eat sugar, you're not following a low carb diet.
    > >>
    > >> If you're on a low carb diet, you don't eat sugar.
    > >>
    > >> I'm sure that you're much too dense to understand any of this.
    > >>
    > >
    > > That's a bunch of bull. All vegetables and most cheeses have some
    > > sugar. So, by your logic, if you eat vegetables and cheese you're
    > > not
    > > on a low-carb diet. Which is [censored] and you know it.

    --
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick


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