NYNY - Fred - Dec 3rd

Watch the fudge and send some here (G)

Best making it through with minimal tastes

Joyce said:

Ya know, not much has been mentioned here either. I finally tackled the family today to get plans
nailed down - need to know what direction I am moving mom in. So Christmas Eve will be at my oldest
girls home (pizza and mosticolli), Christmas breakfast at my house, and Christmas dinner at MIL's
house. I do think it will all be easily survivable though. I am expecting some damage is already
done, just from this last weeks craziness. And my youngest girl already has next weekend pinned
down for fudge and cookie making. Just when I thought I had been able to keep the stuff out of the
house. Oh well .........

Joyce

Fred said:

Actually, other than the work lunch, no one has mentioned Xmas yet - well, the orphan's dinner
(all those folks who moved here from elsewhere) which has been happening with friends now for 30
years. That's always xmas day.

Joyce said:

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:46:18 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Thanks.
>
>Boy, you and Lesanne were in here fast! (G)

Yup, I have fallen behind with the newsgroup - managed to pop in here for a few minutes while I
caught my breath from the afternoon running.

>Maybe I will just become more of a hermit and not accept any invitations to any parties. (g)

Yeah, sure - like THAT'S gonna happen. <G>

Joyce

>
>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:23:34 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>No matter what clothing option you choose, you still are well below your goal weight.
>>Congratulations on keeping everything under control through the first step of the holiday
>>season.
>>
>>Joyce
>>
>>
>>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 12:02:06 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>>Okay, it was up as expected but it was quiet enough (empty) that I could WI twice (G)
>>>
>>>What this means is that I will definitely be UP next week if I use their numbers and my warmer
>>>wardrobe unless I simulaneously pull off a major drop. Or using the new information on
>>>clothing weight, I could recalculate a "constant" weight by always subtracting the amount
>>>shown below. Too anal - probably! (G)
>>>
>>>So (drumroll) the numbers this week are .....
>>>
>>>The usual wardrobe (shorts and T-shirt): 158.4 Gain: 1.4
>>>
>>>The winter wardrobe weighed 1.6 pounds more and included jeans and a turtleneck shirt and I
>>>weighed 160.0
>>>
>>>
>>>Fred
>>>219.2/158.4/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

Keep fudge and cookies out at Christmas??? No way, just not possible. I hadn't planned to do any
baking, but guess what? DH asked "where are the cookies and mincemeat [censored] that you usually bake",
so that was last weekend shot. Baked sugar cookies, gingerbread, and mincemeat [censored]. The [censored] are
gone already, yes I did have a few, but luckily they are just the really tiny ones. Guess I'll have
to make more again this weekend though.

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Ya know, not much has been mentioned here either. I finally tackled the

family

Quoted message said:

today to get plans nailed down - need to know what direction I am moving

mom in.

Quoted message said:

So Christmas Eve will be at my oldest girls home (pizza and mosticolli),

Christmas

Quoted message said:

breakfast at my house, and Christmas dinner at MIL's house. I do think it

will

Quoted message said:

all be easily survivable though. I am expecting some damage is already

done, just

Quoted message said:

from this last weeks craziness. And my youngest girl already has next

weekend

Quoted message said:

pinned down for fudge and cookie making. Just when I thought I had been

able to

Quoted message said:

keep the stuff out of the house. Oh well .........

Joyce

On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 06:11:03 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Actually, other than the work lunch, no one has mentioned Xmas yet - well, the orphan's dinner
(all those folks who moved here from elsewhere) which has been happening with friends now for 30
years. That's always xmas day.

Joyce said:

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:46:18 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

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>Thanks.
>
>Boy, you and Lesanne were in here fast! (G)

Yup, I have fallen behind with the newsgroup - managed to pop in here

for a few

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minutes while I caught my breath from the afternoon running.

>Maybe I will just become more of a hermit and not accept any invitations to any parties. (g)

Yeah, sure - like THAT'S gonna happen. <G>

Joyce

>
>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:23:34 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>No matter what clothing option you choose, you still are well below

your goal

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>>weight. Congratulations on keeping everything under control through

the first

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>>step of the holiday season.
>>
>>Joyce
>>
>>
>>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 12:02:06 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>

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>>
>>>Okay, it was up as expected but it was quiet enough (empty) that I could WI twice (G)
>>>
>>>What this means is that I will definitely be UP next week if I use their numbers and my
>>>warmer wardrobe unless I simulaneously pull off

a

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>>>major drop. Or using the new information on clothing weight, I could recalculate a "constant"
>>>weight by always subtracting the amount

shown

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>>>below. Too anal - probably! (G)
>>>
>>>So (drumroll) the numbers this week are .....
>>>
>>>The usual wardrobe (shorts and T-shirt): 158.4 Gain: 1.4
>>>
>>>The winter wardrobe weighed 1.6 pounds more and included jeans and a turtleneck shirt and I
>>>weighed 160.0
>>>
>>>
>>>Fred
>>>219.2/158.4/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

Awwwwww c'mon .. humor us! You know if the roles were reversed, you would jump all over us to post
our topless photos. <G>

Joyce

Fred said:

I have a good one of me in bicycling shorts and no shirt but I can just imagine the hullabalu it
would create so I do NOT think so.

Brenda Hammond said:

Well, I'll admit, the thought of an indecent picture sounds kind of interesting.... When are you
posting pics for us again????

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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Oh, yes you would! (G)

On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:16:20 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Maybe it is a good thing that you have that clothing allowance then. Wouldn't want you arrested
>for indecent exposure!
>
>"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>"]news:[email hidden]...
>> That's enough from the northerly contingent! (G)
>>
>> It was not quite empty and my leader probably would have me arrested.
>>
>> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:31:50 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>> >Sorry about the little gain Fred, but you're still under goal and

that's

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>> >great! Gee if the place was empty, why didn't you weigh naked?
>>
>

I remembering figuring the point value for the fudge last year, really wasn't too bad if cutting the
pieces small (about 1" cube). 1 point per piece, and I can't eat too many of them as it really is
rich. And if those tastes get the best of me, I will kick things back in gear the first of the year.
Decision made today ... enjoy the holiday time with the kids, don't fret about the small stuff.
Youngest one is very ill with the flu, so I am running around trying valiantly to get things done
around here ... before it hits me. <sigh>

Joyce

Fred said:

Watch the fudge and send some here (G)

Best making it through with minimal tastes

Joyce said:

Ya know, not much has been mentioned here either. I finally tackled the family today to get plans
nailed down - need to know what direction I am moving mom in. So Christmas Eve will be at my
oldest girls home (pizza and mosticolli), Christmas breakfast at my house, and Christmas dinner at
MIL's house. I do think it will all be easily survivable though. I am expecting some damage is
already done, just from this last weeks craziness. And my youngest girl already has next weekend
pinned down for fudge and cookie making. Just when I thought I had been able to keep the stuff out
of the house. Oh well .........

Joyce

Fred said:

Actually, other than the work lunch, no one has mentioned Xmas yet - well, the orphan's dinner
(all those folks who moved here from elsewhere) which has been happening with friends now for 30
years. That's always xmas day.

On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 00:17:37 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:

>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:46:18 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Boy, you and Lesanne were in here fast! (G)
>
>Yup, I have fallen behind with the newsgroup - managed to pop in here for a few minutes while I
>caught my breath from the afternoon running.
>
>>Maybe I will just become more of a hermit and not accept any invitations to any parties. (g)
>
>Yeah, sure - like THAT'S gonna happen. <G>
>
>Joyce
>
>>
>>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:23:34 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>>No matter what clothing option you choose, you still are well below your goal weight.
>>>Congratulations on keeping everything under control through the first step of the holiday
>>>season.
>>>
>>>Joyce
>>>
>>>
>>>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 12:02:06 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Okay, it was up as expected but it was quiet enough (empty) that I could WI twice (G)
>>>>
>>>>What this means is that I will definitely be UP next week if I use their numbers and my
>>>>warmer wardrobe unless I simulaneously pull off a major drop. Or using the new information on
>>>>clothing weight, I could recalculate a "constant" weight by always subtracting the amount
>>>>shown below. Too anal - probably! (G)
>>>>
>>>>So (drumroll) the numbers this week are .....
>>>>
>>>>The usual wardrobe (shorts and T-shirt): 158.4 Gain: 1.4
>>>>
>>>>The winter wardrobe weighed 1.6 pounds more and included jeans and a turtleneck shirt and I
>>>>weighed 160.0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Fred
>>>>219.2/158.4/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

Well, I'll show mine if YOU ALL shows yours (gd&r)

Joyce said:

Awwwwww c'mon .. humor us! You know if the roles were reversed, you would jump all over us to post
our topless photos. <G>

Joyce

Fred said:

I have a good one of me in bicycling shorts and no shirt but I can just imagine the hullabalu it
would create so I do NOT think so.

Brenda Hammond said:

Well, I'll admit, the thought of an indecent picture sounds kind of interesting.... When are you
posting pics for us again????

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
> Oh, yes you would! (G)
>
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:16:20 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >Maybe it is a good thing that you have that clothing allowance then. Wouldn't want you
> >arrested for indecent exposure!
> >
> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> >"]news:[email hidden]...
> >> That's enough from the northerly contingent! (G)
> >>
> >> It was not quite empty and my leader probably would have me arrested.
> >>
> >> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:31:50 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Sorry about the little gain Fred, but you're still under goal and
that's
> >> >great! Gee if the place was empty, why didn't you weigh naked?
> >>
> >
>

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I remembering figuring the point value for the fudge last year, really

wasn't too

Quoted message said:

bad if cutting the pieces small (about 1" cube). 1 point per piece, and I

can't

Quoted message said:

eat too many of them as it really is rich. And if those tastes get the

best of

Quoted message said:

me, I will kick things back in gear the first of the year. Decision made

today

Quoted message said:

... enjoy the holiday time with the kids, don't fret about the small

stuff.

Quoted message said:

Youngest one is very ill with the flu, so I am running around trying

valiantly to

Quoted message said:

get things done around here ... before it hits me. <sigh>

Hope your daughter feels better soon. One consolation is, she should be over it by Christmas.

Quoted message said:

Joyce

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:01:58 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

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Watch the fudge and send some here (G)

Best making it through with minimal tastes

Joyce said:

Ya know, not much has been mentioned here either. I finally tackled the

family

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

today to get plans nailed down - need to know what direction I am moving

mom in.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

So Christmas Eve will be at my oldest girls home (pizza and mosticolli),

Christmas

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

breakfast at my house, and Christmas dinner at MIL's house. I do think

it will

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

all be easily survivable though. I am expecting some damage is already

done, just

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

from this last weeks craziness. And my youngest girl already has next

weekend

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

pinned down for fudge and cookie making. Just when I thought I had been

able to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

keep the stuff out of the house. Oh well .........

Joyce

On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 06:11:03 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>Actually, other than the work lunch, no one has mentioned Xmas yet - well, the orphan's dinner
>(all those folks who moved here from elsewhere) which has been happening with friends now for
>30 years. That's always xmas day.
>
>On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 00:17:37 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:46:18 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

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>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Boy, you and Lesanne were in here fast! (G)
>>
>>Yup, I have fallen behind with the newsgroup - managed to pop in here

for a few

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>>minutes while I caught my breath from the afternoon running.
>>
>>>Maybe I will just become more of a hermit and not accept any invitations to any parties. (g)
>>
>>Yeah, sure - like THAT'S gonna happen. <G>
>>
>>Joyce
>>
>>>
>>>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:23:34 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>No matter what clothing option you choose, you still are well below

your goal

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>>>>weight. Congratulations on keeping everything under control through

the first

Quoted message said:

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>>>>step of the holiday season.
>>>>
>>>>Joyce
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 12:02:06 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

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>>>>
>>>>>Okay, it was up as expected but it was quiet enough (empty) that I could WI twice (G)
>>>>>
>>>>>What this means is that I will definitely be UP next week if I use their numbers and my
>>>>>warmer wardrobe unless I simulaneously pull

off a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>>>>>major drop. Or using the new information on clothing weight, I

could

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>>>>>recalculate a "constant" weight by always subtracting the amount

shown

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>>>>>below. Too anal - probably! (G)
>>>>>
>>>>>So (drumroll) the numbers this week are .....
>>>>>
>>>>>The usual wardrobe (shorts and T-shirt): 158.4 Gain: 1.4
>>>>>
>>>>>The winter wardrobe weighed 1.6 pounds more and included jeans and

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

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>>>>>turtleneck shirt and I weighed 160.0
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Fred
>>>>>219.2/158.4/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

Joyce, you have had it all in the last few weeks. I hope the flu flies past you. Best to daughter

Joyce said:

I remembering figuring the point value for the fudge last year, really wasn't too bad if cutting
the pieces small (about 1" cube). 1 point per piece, and I can't eat too many of them as it really
is rich. And if those tastes get the best of me, I will kick things back in gear the first of the
year. Decision made today ... enjoy the holiday time with the kids, don't fret about the small
stuff. Youngest one is very ill with the flu, so I am running around trying valiantly to get things
done around here ... before it hits me. <sigh>

Joyce

Fred said:

Watch the fudge and send some here (G)

Best making it through with minimal tastes

Joyce said:

Ya know, not much has been mentioned here either. I finally tackled the family today to get plans
nailed down - need to know what direction I am moving mom in. So Christmas Eve will be at my
oldest girls home (pizza and mosticolli), Christmas breakfast at my house, and Christmas dinner
at MIL's house. I do think it will all be easily survivable though. I am expecting some damage is
already done, just from this last weeks craziness. And my youngest girl already has next weekend
pinned down for fudge and cookie making. Just when I thought I had been able to keep the stuff
out of the house. Oh well .........

Joyce

On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 06:11:03 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Actually, other than the work lunch, no one has mentioned Xmas yet - well, the orphan's dinner
>(all those folks who moved here from elsewhere) which has been happening with friends now for 30
>years. That's always xmas day.
>
>On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 00:17:37 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:46:18 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Boy, you and Lesanne were in here fast! (G)
>>
>>Yup, I have fallen behind with the newsgroup - managed to pop in here for a few minutes while I
>>caught my breath from the afternoon running.
>>
>>>Maybe I will just become more of a hermit and not accept any invitations to any parties. (g)
>>
>>Yeah, sure - like THAT'S gonna happen. <G>
>>
>>Joyce
>>
>>>
>>>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:23:34 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>No matter what clothing option you choose, you still are well below your goal weight.
>>>>Congratulations on keeping everything under control through the first step of the holiday
>>>>season.
>>>>
>>>>Joyce
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 12:02:06 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Okay, it was up as expected but it was quiet enough (empty) that I could WI twice (G)
>>>>>
>>>>>What this means is that I will definitely be UP next week if I use their numbers and my
>>>>>warmer wardrobe unless I simulaneously pull off a major drop. Or using the new information
>>>>>on clothing weight, I could recalculate a "constant" weight by always subtracting the amount
>>>>>shown below. Too anal - probably! (G)
>>>>>
>>>>>So (drumroll) the numbers this week are .....
>>>>>
>>>>>The usual wardrobe (shorts and T-shirt): 158.4 Gain: 1.4
>>>>>
>>>>>The winter wardrobe weighed 1.6 pounds more and included jeans and a turtleneck shirt and I
>>>>>weighed 160.0
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Fred
>>>>>219.2/158.4/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

You first. <g>

Fred said:

Well, I'll show mine if YOU ALL shows yours (gd&r)

Joyce said:

Awwwwww c'mon .. humor us! You know if the roles were reversed, you would jump all over us to post
our topless photos. <G>

Joyce

Fred said:

I have a good one of me in bicycling shorts and no shirt but I can just imagine the hullabalu it
would create so I do NOT think so.

On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:39:05 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Well, I'll admit, the thought of an indecent picture sounds kind of interesting.... When are you
>posting pics for us again????
>
>"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>"]news:[email hidden]...
>> Oh, yes you would! (G)
>>
>> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:16:20 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>> >Maybe it is a good thing that you have that clothing allowance then. Wouldn't want you
>> >arrested for indecent exposure!
>> >
>> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> >"]news:[email hidden]...
>> >> That's enough from the northerly contingent! (G)
>> >>
>> >> It was not quite empty and my leader probably would have me arrested.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:31:50 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Sorry about the little gain Fred, but you're still under goal and
>that's
>> >> >great! Gee if the place was empty, why didn't you weigh naked?
>> >>
>> >
>>

You blinked and missed it. Besides, there was an unbuttoned shot in my web vacation shots, I believe

Joyce said:

You first. <g>

Fred said:

Well, I'll show mine if YOU ALL shows yours (gd&r)

Joyce said:

Awwwwww c'mon .. humor us! You know if the roles were reversed, you would jump all over us to
post our topless photos. <G>

Joyce

On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 12:08:47 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:

>I have a good one of me in bicycling shorts and no shirt but I can just imagine the hullabalu it
>would create so I do NOT think so.
>
>On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:39:05 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>Well, I'll admit, the thought of an indecent picture sounds kind of interesting.... When are
>>you posting pics for us again????
>>
>>"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>>"]news:[email hidden]...
>>> Oh, yes you would! (G)
>>>
>>> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:16:20 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Maybe it is a good thing that you have that clothing allowance then. Wouldn't want you
>>> >arrested for indecent exposure!
>>> >
>>> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>>> >"]news:[email hidden]...
>>> >> That's enough from the northerly contingent! (G)
>>> >>
>>> >> It was not quite empty and my leader probably would have me arrested.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:31:50 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >Sorry about the little gain Fred, but you're still under goal and
>>that's
>>> >> >great! Gee if the place was empty, why didn't you weigh naked?
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>

not in this one, wouldn't want to wreck the psyche of so many at once, Lee
Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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You first. <g>

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:02:42 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>

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Well, I'll show mine if YOU ALL shows yours (gd&r)

Joyce said:

Awwwwww c'mon .. humor us! You know if the roles were reversed, you

would jump

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

all over us to post our topless photos. <G>

Joyce

On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 12:08:47 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

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>I have a good one of me in bicycling shorts and no shirt but I can just imagine the hullabalu
>it would create so I do NOT think so.
>
>On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:39:05 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>Well, I'll admit, the thought of an indecent picture sounds kind of interesting.... When are
>>you posting pics for us again????
>>
>>"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>>"]news:[email hidden]...
>>> Oh, yes you would! (G)
>>>
>>> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:16:20 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Maybe it is a good thing that you have that clothing allowance

then.

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>>> >Wouldn't want you arrested for indecent exposure!
>>> >
>>> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>>> >"]news:[email hidden]...
>>> >> That's enough from the northerly contingent! (G)
>>> >>
>>> >> It was not quite empty and my leader probably would have me

arrested.

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>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:31:50 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >Sorry about the little gain Fred, but you're still under goal

and

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>>that's
>>> >> >great! Gee if the place was empty, why didn't you weigh naked?
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>

GGGGGG.

Miss Violette said:

not in this one, wouldn't want to wreck the psyche of so many at once, Lee Joyce <[email hidden]>
wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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You first. <g>

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:02:42 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>

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Well, I'll show mine if YOU ALL shows yours (gd&r)

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 02:21:30 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Awwwwww c'mon .. humor us! You know if the roles were reversed, you

would jump

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>all over us to post our topless photos. <G>
>
>Joyce
>
>On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 12:08:47 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>

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Quoted message said:

>
>>I have a good one of me in bicycling shorts and no shirt but I can just imagine the hullabalu
>>it would create so I do NOT think so.
>>
>>On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:39:05 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>>Well, I'll admit, the thought of an indecent picture sounds kind of interesting.... When are
>>>you posting pics for us again????
>>>
>>>"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>>>"]news:[email hidden]...
>>>> Oh, yes you would! (G)
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:16:20 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >Maybe it is a good thing that you have that clothing allowance

then.

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>>>> >Wouldn't want you arrested for indecent exposure!
>>>> >
>>>> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>>>> >"]news:[email hidden]...
>>>> >> That's enough from the northerly contingent! (G)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It was not quite empty and my leader probably would have me

arrested.

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>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:31:50 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >Sorry about the little gain Fred, but you're still under goal

and

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>>>that's
>>>> >> >great! Gee if the place was empty, why didn't you weigh naked?
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>

Due to daughters bout of the flu, treats have been pretty minimal this season. I did reattempt the
toffee yesterday, came out fantastic this time around (amazing what a working candy thermometer will
do). Fudge will be this week-end, and probably will retry a cookie recipe my daughter wanted to
make. OH! And I still want to try Lesanne's fruit cake. That's it. No one here eats too much of the
cookies, other than myself ... better not to have too much laying around. <g>

Joyce

Brenda Hammond said:

Keep fudge and cookies out at Christmas??? No way, just not possible. I hadn't planned to do any
baking, but guess what? DH asked "where are the cookies and mincemeat [censored] that you usually bake",
so that was last weekend shot. Baked sugar cookies, gingerbread, and mincemeat [censored]. The [censored] are
gone already, yes I did have a few, but luckily they are just the really tiny ones. Guess I'll have
to make more again this weekend though.

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Ya know, not much has been mentioned here either. I finally tackled the

family

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today to get plans nailed down - need to know what direction I am moving

mom in.

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So Christmas Eve will be at my oldest girls home (pizza and mosticolli),

Christmas

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breakfast at my house, and Christmas dinner at MIL's house. I do think it

will

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all be easily survivable though. I am expecting some damage is already

done, just

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from this last weeks craziness. And my youngest girl already has next

weekend

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pinned down for fudge and cookie making. Just when I thought I had been

able to

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keep the stuff out of the house. Oh well .........

Joyce

On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 06:11:03 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

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Actually, other than the work lunch, no one has mentioned Xmas yet - well, the orphan's dinner
(all those folks who moved here from elsewhere) which has been happening with friends now for 30
years. That's always xmas day.

On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 00:17:37 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:

>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:46:18 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>

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>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Boy, you and Lesanne were in here fast! (G)
>
>Yup, I have fallen behind with the newsgroup - managed to pop in here

for a few

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>minutes while I caught my breath from the afternoon running.
>
>>Maybe I will just become more of a hermit and not accept any invitations to any parties. (g)
>
>Yeah, sure - like THAT'S gonna happen. <G>
>
>Joyce
>
>>
>>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:23:34 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>>No matter what clothing option you choose, you still are well below

your goal

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>>>weight. Congratulations on keeping everything under control through

the first

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>>>step of the holiday season.
>>>
>>>Joyce
>>>
>>>
>>>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 12:02:06 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>

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>>>
>>>>Okay, it was up as expected but it was quiet enough (empty) that I could WI twice (G)
>>>>
>>>>What this means is that I will definitely be UP next week if I use their numbers and my
>>>>warmer wardrobe unless I simulaneously pull off

a

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>>>>major drop. Or using the new information on clothing weight, I could recalculate a
>>>>"constant" weight by always subtracting the amount

shown

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>>>>below. Too anal - probably! (G)
>>>>
>>>>So (drumroll) the numbers this week are .....
>>>>
>>>>The usual wardrobe (shorts and T-shirt): 158.4 Gain: 1.4
>>>>
>>>>The winter wardrobe weighed 1.6 pounds more and included jeans and a turtleneck shirt and I
>>>>weighed 160.0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Fred
>>>>219.2/158.4/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Due to daughters bout of the flu, treats have been pretty minimal this

season. I

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did reattempt the toffee yesterday, came out fantastic this time around

(amazing

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what a working candy thermometer will do). Fudge will be this week-end,

and

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probably will retry a cookie recipe my daughter wanted to make. OH! And

I still

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want to try Lesanne's fruit cake. That's it. No one here eats too much

of the

Quoted message said:

cookies, other than myself ... better not to have too much laying around.

<g>

I've got a few things I need to make this weekend. I always give the photographer who takes
Nicholas' pictures a food hamper at Christmas as he refuses to charge me for the photos and he
usually does about 40! Last year I gave him a basket of baking (butter [censored], cookies, fruit cake,
etc.). This year I'll give him some baking as well as a lasagna. I found a great recipe if one can
afford to eat a high fat/calorie meal once in awhile. Made it once for DH and gave Dan (the
photographer) a small pan as well, both were very impressed. Even Dan's mother was impressed. Dan's
a single parent, and his son is 20 and away at university most of the year. He has a large house
with two floors. His mom lives upstairs and Dan and Mike live downstairs. I figure that since he is
a bachelor he probably doesn't get much of the type of food I give him and doing that once a year
won't make him too fat! He appreciates it anyway!

Quoted message said:

Joyce

Brenda Hammond said:

Keep fudge and cookies out at Christmas??? No way, just not possible. I hadn't planned to do any
baking, but guess what? DH asked "where are the cookies and mincemeat [censored] that you usually
bake", so that was last

weekend

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

shot. Baked sugar cookies, gingerbread, and mincemeat [censored]. The [censored]

are

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gone already, yes I did have a few, but luckily they are just the really tiny ones. Guess I'll
have to make more again this weekend though.

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Ya know, not much has been mentioned here either. I finally tackled

the

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Quoted message said:

family

Quoted message said:

today to get plans nailed down - need to know what direction I am

moving

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

mom in.

Quoted message said:

So Christmas Eve will be at my oldest girls home (pizza and

mosticolli),

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Christmas

Quoted message said:

breakfast at my house, and Christmas dinner at MIL's house. I do think

it

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

will

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all be easily survivable though. I am expecting some damage is already

done, just

Quoted message said:

from this last weeks craziness. And my youngest girl already has next

weekend

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pinned down for fudge and cookie making. Just when I thought I had

been

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Quoted message said:

able to

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keep the stuff out of the house. Oh well .........

Joyce

On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 06:11:03 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>

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>Actually, other than the work lunch, no one has mentioned Xmas yet - well, the orphan's dinner
>(all those folks who moved here from elsewhere) which has been happening with friends now for
>30 years. That's always xmas day.
>
>On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 00:17:37 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:46:18 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>

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>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Boy, you and Lesanne were in here fast! (G)
>>
>>Yup, I have fallen behind with the newsgroup - managed to pop in here

for a few

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>>minutes while I caught my breath from the afternoon running.
>>
>>>Maybe I will just become more of a hermit and not accept any invitations to any parties. (g)
>>
>>Yeah, sure - like THAT'S gonna happen. <G>
>>
>>Joyce
>>
>>>
>>>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:23:34 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>No matter what clothing option you choose, you still are well below

your goal

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>>>>weight. Congratulations on keeping everything under control

through

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the first

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>>>>step of the holiday season.
>>>>
>>>>Joyce
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 12:02:06 -0800, Fred

<[email hidden]>

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>>>>
>>>>>Okay, it was up as expected but it was quiet enough (empty) that I could WI twice (G)
>>>>>
>>>>>What this means is that I will definitely be UP next week if I use their numbers and my
>>>>>warmer wardrobe unless I simulaneously pull

off

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a

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>>>>>major drop. Or using the new information on clothing weight, I

could

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Quoted message said:

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>>>>>recalculate a "constant" weight by always subtracting the amount

shown

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>>>>>below. Too anal - probably! (G)
>>>>>
>>>>>So (drumroll) the numbers this week are .....
>>>>>
>>>>>The usual wardrobe (shorts and T-shirt): 158.4 Gain: 1.4
>>>>>
>>>>>The winter wardrobe weighed 1.6 pounds more and included jeans and

a

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>>>>>turtleneck shirt and I weighed 160.0
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Fred
>>>>>219.2/158.4/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

Brenda Hammond said:

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I remembering figuring the point value for the fudge last year, really

wasn't too

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bad if cutting the pieces small (about 1" cube). 1 point per piece, and I

can't

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eat too many of them as it really is rich. And if those tastes get the

best of

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me, I will kick things back in gear the first of the year. Decision made

today

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... enjoy the holiday time with the kids, don't fret about the small

stuff.

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Youngest one is very ill with the flu, so I am running around trying

valiantly to

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get things done around here ... before it hits me. <sigh>

Hope your daughter feels better soon. One consolation is, she should be over it by Christmas.

Thanks Brenda, and that is what I've been telling her. She seems to have really perked up this
evening, smiling and laughing again - and even got a little bit of dinner into her.

Joyce

Thanks Fred. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it misses me, as well as trying to think
positively. Daughter is feeling so much better this evening, wonderful to see her back to somewhat
of a human again. She doesn't wear the pasty look very well. <G>

Joyce

Fred said:

Joyce, you have had it all in the last few weeks. I hope the flu flies past you. Best to daughter

Joyce said:

I remembering figuring the point value for the fudge last year, really wasn't too bad if cutting
the pieces small (about 1" cube). 1 point per piece, and I can't eat too many of them as it really
is rich. And if those tastes get the best of me, I will kick things back in gear the first of the
year. Decision made today ... enjoy the holiday time with the kids, don't fret about the small
stuff. Youngest one is very ill with the flu, so I am running around trying valiantly to get
things done around here ... before it hits me. <sigh>

Joyce

Fred said:

Watch the fudge and send some here (G)

Best making it through with minimal tastes

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 02:20:21 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Ya know, not much has been mentioned here either. I finally tackled the family today to get
>plans nailed down - need to know what direction I am moving mom in. So Christmas Eve will be at
>my oldest girls home (pizza and mosticolli), Christmas breakfast at my house, and Christmas
>dinner at MIL's house. I do think it will all be easily survivable though. I am expecting some
>damage is already done, just from this last weeks craziness. And my youngest girl already has
>next weekend pinned down for fudge and cookie making. Just when I thought I had been able to
>keep the stuff out of the house. Oh well .........
>
>Joyce
>
>
>On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 06:11:03 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>Actually, other than the work lunch, no one has mentioned Xmas yet - well, the orphan's dinner
>>(all those folks who moved here from elsewhere) which has been happening with friends now for
>>30 years. That's always xmas day.
>>
>>On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 00:17:37 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:46:18 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>Boy, you and Lesanne were in here fast! (G)
>>>
>>>Yup, I have fallen behind with the newsgroup - managed to pop in here for a few minutes while
>>>I caught my breath from the afternoon running.
>>>
>>>>Maybe I will just become more of a hermit and not accept any invitations to any parties. (g)
>>>
>>>Yeah, sure - like THAT'S gonna happen. <G>
>>>
>>>Joyce
>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:23:34 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>No matter what clothing option you choose, you still are well below your goal weight.
>>>>>Congratulations on keeping everything under control through the first step of the holiday
>>>>>season.
>>>>>
>>>>>Joyce
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 12:02:06 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Okay, it was up as expected but it was quiet enough (empty) that I could WI twice (G)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What this means is that I will definitely be UP next week if I use their numbers and my
>>>>>>warmer wardrobe unless I simulaneously pull off a major drop. Or using the new information
>>>>>>on clothing weight, I could recalculate a "constant" weight by always subtracting the
>>>>>>amount shown below. Too anal - probably! (G)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So (drumroll) the numbers this week are .....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The usual wardrobe (shorts and T-shirt): 158.4 Gain: 1.4
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The winter wardrobe weighed 1.6 pounds more and included jeans and a turtleneck shirt and I
>>>>>>weighed 160.0
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Fred
>>>>>>219.2/158.4/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

recipe for the "L" word please, I feel the need to torture myself today, Lee
Brenda Hammond <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Due to daughters bout of the flu, treats have been pretty minimal this

season. I

Quoted message said:

did reattempt the toffee yesterday, came out fantastic this time around

(amazing

Quoted message said:

what a working candy thermometer will do). Fudge will be this week-end,

and

Quoted message said:

probably will retry a cookie recipe my daughter wanted to make. OH!

And

Quoted message said:

I still

Quoted message said:

want to try Lesanne's fruit cake. That's it. No one here eats too much

of the

Quoted message said:

cookies, other than myself ... better not to have too much laying

around.

Quoted message said:

<g>

I've got a few things I need to make this weekend. I always give the photographer who takes
Nicholas' pictures a food hamper at Christmas as he refuses to charge me for the photos and he
usually does about 40! Last

year

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I gave him a basket of baking (butter [censored], cookies, fruit cake, etc.). This year I'll give him
some baking as well as a lasagna. I found a great recipe if one can afford to eat a high
fat/calorie meal once in awhile. Made it once for DH and gave Dan (the photographer) a small pan
as well, both were very impressed. Even Dan's mother was impressed. Dan's a

single

Quoted message said:

parent, and his son is 20 and away at university most of the year. He has

a

Quoted message said:

large house with two floors. His mom lives upstairs and Dan and Mike live downstairs. I figure
that since he is a bachelor he probably doesn't get much of the type of food I give him and doing
that once a year won't make him too fat! He appreciates it anyway!

Quoted message said:

Joyce

Brenda Hammond said:

Keep fudge and cookies out at Christmas??? No way, just not possible.

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

hadn't planned to do any baking, but guess what? DH asked "where are

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

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cookies and mincemeat [censored] that you usually bake", so that was last

weekend

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

shot. Baked sugar cookies, gingerbread, and mincemeat [censored]. The

[censored]

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are

Quoted message said:

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gone already, yes I did have a few, but luckily they are just the

really

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

tiny ones. Guess I'll have to make more again this weekend though.

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
> Ya know, not much has been mentioned here either. I finally tackled

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

family
> today to get plans nailed down - need to know what direction I am

moving

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Quoted message said:

mom in.
> So Christmas Eve will be at my oldest girls home (pizza and

mosticolli),

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Quoted message said:

Christmas
> breakfast at my house, and Christmas dinner at MIL's house. I do

think

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it

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will
> all be easily survivable though. I am expecting some damage is

already

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done, just
> from this last weeks craziness. And my youngest girl already has

next

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Quoted message said:

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weekend
> pinned down for fudge and cookie making. Just when I thought I had

been

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able to
> keep the stuff out of the house. Oh well .........
>
> Joyce
>
>
> On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 06:11:03 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>
wrote:
>
> >Actually, other than the work lunch, no one has mentioned Xmas yet - well, the orphan's
> >dinner (all those folks who moved here from elsewhere) which has been happening with friends
> >now for 30 years. That's always xmas day.
> >
> >On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 00:17:37 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >
> >>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:46:18 -0800, Fred

<[email hidden]>

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wrote:
> >>
> >>>Thanks.
> >>>
> >>>Boy, you and Lesanne were in here fast! (G)
> >>
> >>Yup, I have fallen behind with the newsgroup - managed to pop in

here

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for a few
> >>minutes while I caught my breath from the afternoon running.
> >>
> >>>Maybe I will just become more of a hermit and not accept any invitations to any parties.
> >>>(g)
> >>
> >>Yeah, sure - like THAT'S gonna happen. <G>
> >>
> >>Joyce
> >>
> >>>
> >>>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:23:34 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>No matter what clothing option you choose, you still are well

below

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your goal
> >>>>weight. Congratulations on keeping everything under control

through

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the first
> >>>>step of the holiday season.
> >>>>
> >>>>Joyce
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 12:02:06 -0800, Fred

<[email hidden]>

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wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Okay, it was up as expected but it was quiet enough (empty) that

I

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> >>>>>could WI twice (G)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>What this means is that I will definitely be UP next week if I

use

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> >>>>>their numbers and my warmer wardrobe unless I simulaneously pull

off

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a
> >>>>>major drop. Or using the new information on clothing weight, I

could

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> >>>>>recalculate a "constant" weight by always subtracting the amount
shown
> >>>>>below. Too anal - probably! (G)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>So (drumroll) the numbers this week are .....
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The usual wardrobe (shorts and T-shirt): 158.4 Gain: 1.4
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The winter wardrobe weighed 1.6 pounds more and included jeans

and

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a

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> >>>>>turtleneck shirt and I weighed 160.0
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Fred
> >>>>>219.2/158.4/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002
>

I'll post the "L" recipe a bit later this evening. Keep in mind it's only points friendly if you eat
just a tablespoon or so!!

"Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

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recipe for the "L" word please, I feel the need to torture myself today,

Lee

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Brenda Hammond <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Due to daughters bout of the flu, treats have been pretty minimal this

season. I

Quoted message said:

did reattempt the toffee yesterday, came out fantastic this time

around

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

(amazing

Quoted message said:

what a working candy thermometer will do). Fudge will be this

week-end,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and

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probably will retry a cookie recipe my daughter wanted to make. OH!

And

Quoted message said:

I still

Quoted message said:

want to try Lesanne's fruit cake. That's it. No one here eats too

much

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

of the

Quoted message said:

cookies, other than myself ... better not to have too much laying

around.

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<g>

I've got a few things I need to make this weekend. I always give the photographer who takes
Nicholas' pictures a food hamper at Christmas as

he

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

refuses to charge me for the photos and he usually does about 40! Last

year

Quoted message said:

I gave him a basket of baking (butter [censored], cookies, fruit cake, etc.). This year I'll give him
some baking as well as a lasagna. I found a

great

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

recipe if one can afford to eat a high fat/calorie meal once in awhile. Made it once for DH and
gave Dan (the photographer) a small pan as well, both were very impressed. Even Dan's mother was
impressed. Dan's a

single

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parent, and his son is 20 and away at university most of the year. He

has

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a

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large house with two floors. His mom lives upstairs and Dan and Mike

live

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downstairs. I figure that since he is a bachelor he probably doesn't

get

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much of the type of food I give him and doing that once a year won't

make

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him too fat! He appreciates it anyway!

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Joyce

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 06:53:46 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Keep fudge and cookies out at Christmas??? No way, just not

possible.

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I

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>hadn't planned to do any baking, but guess what? DH asked "where are

the

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>cookies and mincemeat [censored] that you usually bake", so that was last

weekend

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>shot. Baked sugar cookies, gingerbread, and mincemeat [censored]. The

[censored]

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are

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>gone already, yes I did have a few, but luckily they are just the

really

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>tiny ones. Guess I'll have to make more again this weekend though.
>
>"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
>> Ya know, not much has been mentioned here either. I finally

tackled

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Quoted message said:

the

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>family
>> today to get plans nailed down - need to know what direction I am

moving

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>mom in.
>> So Christmas Eve will be at my oldest girls home (pizza and

mosticolli),

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>Christmas
>> breakfast at my house, and Christmas dinner at MIL's house. I do

think

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it

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>will
>> all be easily survivable though. I am expecting some damage is

already

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>done, just
>> from this last weeks craziness. And my youngest girl already has

next

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>weekend
>> pinned down for fudge and cookie making. Just when I thought I had

been

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>able to
>> keep the stuff out of the house. Oh well .........
>>
>> Joyce
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 06:11:03 -0800, Fred

<[email hidden]>

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>wrote:
>>
>> >Actually, other than the work lunch, no one has mentioned Xmas

yet -

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>> >well, the orphan's dinner (all those folks who moved here from elsewhere) which has been
>> >happening with friends now for 30 years. That's always xmas day.
>> >
>> >On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 00:17:37 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:46:18 -0800, Fred

<[email hidden]>

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>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Thanks.
>> >>>
>> >>>Boy, you and Lesanne were in here fast! (G)
>> >>
>> >>Yup, I have fallen behind with the newsgroup - managed to pop in

here

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>for a few
>> >>minutes while I caught my breath from the afternoon running.
>> >>
>> >>>Maybe I will just become more of a hermit and not accept any invitations to any parties.
>> >>>(g)
>> >>
>> >>Yeah, sure - like THAT'S gonna happen. <G>
>> >>
>> >>Joyce
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:23:34 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>No matter what clothing option you choose, you still are well

below

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>your goal
>> >>>>weight. Congratulations on keeping everything under control

through

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>the first
>> >>>>step of the holiday season.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Joyce
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 12:02:06 -0800, Fred

<[email hidden]>

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>wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Okay, it was up as expected but it was quiet enough (empty)

that

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>> >>>>>could WI twice (G)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>What this means is that I will definitely be UP next week if I

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>a
>> >>>>>major drop. Or using the new information on clothing weight,

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could

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>shown
>> >>>>>below. Too anal - probably! (G)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>So (drumroll) the numbers this week are .....
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>The usual wardrobe (shorts and T-shirt): 158.4 Gain: 1.4
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>The winter wardrobe weighed 1.6 pounds more and included jeans

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>> >>>>>turtleneck shirt and I weighed 160.0
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Fred
>> >>>>>219.2/158.4/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002
>>
>

Hey, no fair flashing us. If you're gonna do it, then do it right!

Joyce

Fred said:

You blinked and missed it. Besides, there was an unbuttoned shot in my web vacation shots,
I believe

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You first. <g>

Fred said:

Well, I'll show mine if YOU ALL shows yours (gd&r)

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 02:21:30 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Awwwwww c'mon .. humor us! You know if the roles were reversed, you would jump all over us to
>post our topless photos. <G>
>
>Joyce
>
>On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 12:08:47 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>I have a good one of me in bicycling shorts and no shirt but I can just imagine the hullabalu
>>it would create so I do NOT think so.
>>
>>On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:39:05 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>>Well, I'll admit, the thought of an indecent picture sounds kind of interesting.... When are
>>>you posting pics for us again????
>>>
>>>"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>>>"]news:[email hidden]...
>>>> Oh, yes you would! (G)
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:16:20 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >Maybe it is a good thing that you have that clothing allowance then. Wouldn't want you
>>>> >arrested for indecent exposure!
>>>> >
>>>> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>>>> >"]news:[email hidden]...
>>>> >> That's enough from the northerly contingent! (G)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It was not quite empty and my leader probably would have me arrested.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:31:50 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >Sorry about the little gain Fred, but you're still under goal and
>>>that's
>>>> >> >great! Gee if the place was empty, why didn't you weigh naked?
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>>
>

All's fair in love and newsgroups - which explains all the flaming!
(g)

Joyce said:

Hey, no fair flashing us. If you're gonna do it, then do it right!

Joyce

Fred said:

You blinked and missed it. Besides, there was an unbuttoned shot in my web vacation shots,
I believe

Joyce said:

You first. <g>

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:02:42 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Well, I'll show mine if YOU ALL shows yours (gd&r)
>
>On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 02:21:30 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>Awwwwww c'mon .. humor us! You know if the roles were reversed, you would jump all over us to
>>post our topless photos. <G>
>>
>>Joyce
>>
>>On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 12:08:47 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>>I have a good one of me in bicycling shorts and no shirt but I can just imagine the hullabalu
>>>it would create so I do NOT think so.
>>>
>>>On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:39:05 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Well, I'll admit, the thought of an indecent picture sounds kind of interesting.... When are
>>>>you posting pics for us again????
>>>>
>>>>"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>>>>"]news:[email hidden]...
>>>>> Oh, yes you would! (G)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:16:20 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >Maybe it is a good thing that you have that clothing allowance then. Wouldn't want you
>>>>> >arrested for indecent exposure!
>>>>> >
>>>>> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>>>>> >"]news:[email hidden]...
>>>>> >> That's enough from the northerly contingent! (G)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> It was not quite empty and my leader probably would have me arrested.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:31:50 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]>
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> >Sorry about the little gain Fred, but you're still under goal and
>>>>that's
>>>>> >> >great! Gee if the place was empty, why didn't you weigh naked?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>

Hmm. Let's see

An eyedropper's worth of Olive Oil. One mince of garlic One piece of linguini One cherry tomato One
curd of ricotta On shred of parmesan cheese

Mix, stir, bake and eat.

Brenda Hammond said:

I'll post the "L" recipe a bit later this evening. Keep in mind it's only points friendly if you
eat just a tablespoon or so!!

"Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

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recipe for the "L" word please, I feel the need to torture myself today,

Lee

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Brenda Hammond <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
> Due to daughters bout of the flu, treats have been pretty minimal this
season. I
> did reattempt the toffee yesterday, came out fantastic this time

around

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(amazing
> what a working candy thermometer will do). Fudge will be this

week-end,

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and
> probably will retry a cookie recipe my daughter wanted to make. OH!

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I still
> want to try Lesanne's fruit cake. That's it. No one here eats too

much

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of the
> cookies, other than myself ... better not to have too much laying

around.

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<g>

I've got a few things I need to make this weekend. I always give the photographer who takes
Nicholas' pictures a food hamper at Christmas as

he

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refuses to charge me for the photos and he usually does about 40! Last

year

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I gave him a basket of baking (butter [censored], cookies, fruit cake, etc.). This year I'll give
him some baking as well as a lasagna. I found a

great

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recipe if one can afford to eat a high fat/calorie meal once in awhile. Made it once for DH and
gave Dan (the photographer) a small pan as well, both were very impressed. Even Dan's mother
was impressed. Dan's a

single

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parent, and his son is 20 and away at university most of the year. He

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large house with two floors. His mom lives upstairs and Dan and Mike

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downstairs. I figure that since he is a bachelor he probably doesn't

get

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much of the type of food I give him and doing that once a year won't

make

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him too fat! He appreciates it anyway!

>
> Joyce
>
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 06:53:46 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >Keep fudge and cookies out at Christmas??? No way, just not

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> >hadn't planned to do any baking, but guess what? DH asked "where are

the

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> >cookies and mincemeat [censored] that you usually bake", so that was last
weekend
> >shot. Baked sugar cookies, gingerbread, and mincemeat [censored]. The

[censored]

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are
> >gone already, yes I did have a few, but luckily they are just the

really

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> >tiny ones. Guess I'll have to make more again this weekend though.
> >
> >"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
> >> Ya know, not much has been mentioned here either. I finally

tackled

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the
> >family
> >> today to get plans nailed down - need to know what direction I am
moving
> >mom in.
> >> So Christmas Eve will be at my oldest girls home (pizza and
mosticolli),
> >Christmas
> >> breakfast at my house, and Christmas dinner at MIL's house. I do

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it
> >will
> >> all be easily survivable though. I am expecting some damage is

already

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> >done, just
> >> from this last weeks craziness. And my youngest girl already has

next

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> >weekend
> >> pinned down for fudge and cookie making. Just when I thought I had
been
> >able to
> >> keep the stuff out of the house. Oh well .........
> >>
> >> Joyce
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 06:11:03 -0800, Fred

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> >wrote:
> >>
> >> >Actually, other than the work lunch, no one has mentioned Xmas

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> >> >well, the orphan's dinner (all those folks who moved here from elsewhere) which has been
> >> >happening with friends now for 30 years. That's always xmas day.
> >> >
> >> >On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 00:17:37 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:46:18 -0800, Fred

<[email hidden]>

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> >wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>Thanks.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Boy, you and Lesanne were in here fast! (G)
> >> >>
> >> >>Yup, I have fallen behind with the newsgroup - managed to pop in

here

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> >for a few
> >> >>minutes while I caught my breath from the afternoon running.
> >> >>
> >> >>>Maybe I will just become more of a hermit and not accept any invitations to any
> >> >>>parties. (g)
> >> >>
> >> >>Yeah, sure - like THAT'S gonna happen. <G>
> >> >>
> >> >>Joyce
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:23:34 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>No matter what clothing option you choose, you still are well

below

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> >your goal
> >> >>>>weight. Congratulations on keeping everything under control
through
> >the first
> >> >>>>step of the holiday season.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Joyce
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 12:02:06 -0800, Fred
<[email hidden]>
> >wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>Okay, it was up as expected but it was quiet enough (empty)

that

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I

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> >> >>>>>could WI twice (G)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>What this means is that I will definitely be UP next week if I

use

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> >> >>>>>their numbers and my warmer wardrobe unless I simulaneously

pull

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off
> >a
> >> >>>>>major drop. Or using the new information on clothing weight,

I

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could
> >> >>>>>recalculate a "constant" weight by always subtracting the

amount

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> >shown
> >> >>>>>below. Too anal - probably! (G)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>So (drumroll) the numbers this week are .....
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>The usual wardrobe (shorts and T-shirt): 158.4 Gain: 1.4
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>The winter wardrobe weighed 1.6 pounds more and included jeans

and

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a
> >> >>>>>turtleneck shirt and I weighed 160.0
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Fred
> >> >>>>>219.2/158.4/164. (Lifetime) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002
> >>
> >
>