2008 Ftp?



@MintID: what do you mean with beginner class :confused: , by the way? I'm totally slashed with that expression and seeing your 4,78W/kg :eek: . Come on, tell me this is just a typing error :D
 
grahamspringett said:
Tour of Bright, the last 32km go up Mt Hotham. Should be a nice view from the top if I can still see by then!
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Hoping to be at Bright this year too:cool:

The whole middle section of hotham will be wheel suckers delight, once you hit the toll gate though..fun.

Edit-Lama, you're goin down in the tt:p :D . Don't forget I've gotta do an extra 40k in the morn AND we start before you lot in the TT so I'm handicapped as is:D
 
bigwillie013 said:
@MintID: what do you mean with beginner class :confused: , by the way? I'm totally slashed with that expression and seeing your 4,78W/kg :eek: . Come on, tell me this is just a typing error :D
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In Denmark you have to start in Beginner, then C - B - A

I just started racing this season.
Need 32 points to advance. I have 17 so far.
(first place 8 points, second place 6 points, third 5, fourth 4, fith 3 and 6. place gets 2 points. )

W/Kg has very little meaning in Denmark due to the flat courses.
 
MintID said:
did 20minutes with avg power of 390 and NP of 392.

390 x 0, 95 = 370,5 / 77.5 = 4,78
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I'm not pretty sure it works in that way since, given that power drops of 5% each time the duration doubles. 370,5 to me looks more as the 40MAP, I guess a fairly bet would be x 0,92.

...Anyway, I'm just really happy because I've just tested my 20MAP and it resulted in an astonishing (to me) 249 W per 60,4 Kg (4,12 W/Kg) :):):)

My goal for the 2008 was to reach a 4,0 W/Kg, a +10% on last season value (I didn't stated it in the Goals Galore thread because I'm italian and superstitious :D), so today was a great day to me.. and it comes within the week where I scored the highest TSS since I have a Powermeter (guess that tapering doesn't do for me :))! I wish to thanks the members of this forum, which has proven an invaluable source of infos!

... ok ok, I didn't win anything important and the numbers are not that cool, so I'll stop this endless post, but I really wanted to share my happyness with you! :D
 
If figures are poor or great lies in the eyes of the viewer.;) And if you feel they're great, then, hey there's a reason to celebrate.:D


Speaking for me I had 2 goals for this year: 1) 4W/kg and 2) finish a C-Class race. Especially the latter might seem odd as "just" finishing isn't what most folks here seem to be after. But - maybe a speciality of Germany - the starting class for amateur racing comprises of lots of youngsters who want to become B or A as fast as they can, some veterans who only look after premes and some very quick guys which are poor sprinters. All this makes these reaces very hard to compete in especially when you: 1) are 40 years old 2) never raced before 3) have a full schedule with job, family and the like 4) started competitive cycling just as of 3 years ago.
As of yesterday I have accomplished my second goal :D and therefore it was a great day "just" to stay with the pack. Sure felt great for me :cool:
Surely next season holds higher stakes than this one - especially as I have to start as a senior 2 and not C anymore. That means competition amongst 41-50 year old (no more youngsters at least).:p
 
KP....................265W.......48.5kg....5.46W/kg(olympic bound female MTBer)
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
Markster............352W.......69kg......5.10 W/kg (69min TT @ 347W (5ºC)) (105min TT @ 330W)
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Piotr..................267W.......55kg......4.85W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
MintID................370W.......77.5kg......4.78W/kg (Beginner Class)
rmur(Mar.08).......410W.......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w........61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
PaulMD...............317w.......67.5kg....4.71w/kg (recreational rider, training for La Marmotte)
pledac................312W.......67.5kg....4.62W/kg (39, PT Pro, from 0.93*20MMP)
esammuli............302W.......66.4kg.....4.55 W/kg (22, Cat III, SoCal)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)

bigbadwoulfe.......320W.......73.0kg....4.41W/kg
iliveonnitro...........290W........67kg.....4.33W/kg (21, cat3, IL)
tehpr3chr............315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Cat III, GA)
Tyson.................315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Sillyoldtwit)
bigwillie013........300W.....70kg......4.29W/kg beginner in racing (Germany, C-Class)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg....4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
waterrockets.......345W.......80.9kg....4.26W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
Hammertoe.........256W.......61.2kg....4.18W/kg (middle aged, well marbled, hill climber)
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
tonyzackery........365W.......88kg.......4.15W/kg (Cat4, 1hr+ L4 climbs on trainer)
grahamspringett.....268W.....65kg....4.12W/kg (Masters 2, looking forward to 32km mountain climb in stage race)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
ctgt...................270W.......70kg.......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
mikeyp123...........260W.......67.5kg.....3.85W/kg (Cat 5, SoCal, 32, racer noob, 230 -> 260 so far this season)
No1kung1............294W.......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
otb4evr...............375W.......99kg......3.79w/kg (Cat3, 40+, 40k @ 56:51 - 348 AP on TT bike)
Simone.................226W.......60,7kg..... 3.72 W/kg (Simone@Italy, 30, rides for fun)
ruleof72..............272W.......74kg.......3.67W/kg (almost 44, former bad crit racer, likes to climb)
artemidorus.........315W.......86kg......3.66W/kg (commuter, 38, rides for fun)
Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
catlike.................232W.......65kg......3.57W/kg (2nd year of training, M32)
kopride................283W.......79.5kg....3.55 W/kg (Weekend Warrior, Philly)
dkrenik................260W......78.9kg....3.3W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
RJBTrek...............243W.......85kg.......2.86W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Fergie.................242W.......90kg.......2.42W/kg (M1 NZ, fat rider, underweight coach)
Alex Simmons.......185W.......100kg.......1.85W/kg (75% of MAP 246W, SRM, M40+ track enduro, in rehab, LBK amputee using 100mm left crank arm)
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Just a small update. I just finished my second FTP test of the year. Last week was my hardest week of the year TSS wise, but I've been setting some PB's so here they are:

Weight - 55 kg (I gained a kg since spring :eek:), that's not a PB :D
1 min - 522 W, 9.5 W/kg (last Saturday)
5 min - 335 W, 6.07 W/kg (last Friday)
60 min - 267 W, 4.85 W/kg (today - indoors w/-17 TSB)

I hope this translates to a good result in our state HC championships in 10 days.
 
KP....................275W.......49kg....5.61W/kg 4th place finisher womens olympic MTB
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
Markster............352W.......69kg......5.10 W/kg (69min TT @ 347W (5ºC)) (105min TT @ 330W)
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Piotr..................267W.......55kg......4.85W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
MintID................370W.......77.5kg......4.78W/kg (Beginner Class)
rmur(Mar.08).......410W.......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w........61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
PaulMD...............317w.......67.5kg....4.71w/kg (recreational rider, training for La Marmotte)
pledac................312W.......67.5kg....4.62W/kg (39, PT Pro, from 0.93*20MMP)
esammuli............302W.......66.4kg.....4.55 W/kg (22, Cat III, SoCal)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)

bigbadwoulfe.......320W.......73.0kg....4.41W/kg
iliveonnitro...........290W........67kg.....4.33W/kg (21, cat3, IL)
tehpr3chr............315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Cat III, GA)
Tyson.................315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Sillyoldtwit)
bigwillie013........300W.....70kg......4.29W/kg beginner in racing (Germany, C-Class)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg....4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
waterrockets.......345W.......80.9kg....4.26W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
Hammertoe.........256W.......61.2kg....4.18W/kg (middle aged, well marbled, hill climber)
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
tonyzackery........365W.......88kg.......4.15W/kg (Cat4, 1hr+ L4 climbs on trainer)
grahamspringett.....268W.....65kg....4.12W/kg (Masters 2, looking forward to 32km mountain climb in stage race)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
ctgt...................270W.......70kg.......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
mikeyp123...........260W.......67.5kg.....3.85W/kg (Cat 5, SoCal, 32, racer noob, 230 -> 260 so far this season)
No1kung1............294W.......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
otb4evr...............375W.......99kg......3.79w/kg (Cat3, 40+, 40k @ 56:51 - 348 AP on TT bike)
Simone.................226W.......60,7kg..... 3.72 W/kg (Simone@Italy, 30, rides for fun)
ruleof72..............272W.......74kg.......3.67W/kg (almost 44, former bad crit racer, likes to climb)
artemidorus.........315W.......86kg......3.66W/kg (commuter, 38, rides for fun)
Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
catlike.................232W.......65kg......3.57W/kg (2nd year of training, M32)
kopride................283W.......79.5kg....3.55 W/kg (Weekend Warrior, Philly)
dkrenik................260W......78.9kg....3.3W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
RJBTrek...............243W.......85kg.......2.86W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Fergie.................242W.......90kg.......2.42W/kg (M1 NZ, fat rider, underweight coach)
Alex Simmons.......185W.......100kg.......1.85W/kg (75% of MAP 246W, SRM, M40+ track enduro, in rehab, LBK amputee using 100mm left crank arm)

Just to up-date as to what it takes to just about medal at the olympics
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That's pretty damn impressive. Absalon must be pushing 6+ in order to ride away from the field like that.

Hopefully I'll be able to post an update soon before the start of cyclocross season. I just did a 22 minute hillclimb at 309 watts (310 NP), which I am really happy about since I've been stagnant at about 303 watts since march (but still within the margin of error for the PT :( ).
 
strader said:
That's pretty damn impressive. Absalon must be pushing 6+ in order to ride away from the field like that.

Hopefully I'll be able to post an update soon before the start of cyclocross season. I just did a 22 minute hillclimb at 309 watts (310 NP), which I am really happy about since I've been stagnant at about 303 watts since march (but still within the margin of error for the PT :( ).
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I am sure Absalon is over 6. I know Roland was well over 6 at his peak.

The top women, particularly the small ones, are actually fairly close to the top men in watts per kilo. It goes to show you that watt per kilo isn't everything, absolute wattage is important.
 
kclw said:
It goes to show you that watt per kilo isn't everything, absolute wattage is important.
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I think one reason for this is that the bike is usually forgotten in w/kg.For very light weight riders the weight of the bike makes big difference because the bike usually does not scale down with rider size (especially on road with minimum weight.)
 
KP....................275W.......49kg....5.61W/kg 4th place finisher womens olympic MTB
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
Markster............352W.......69kg......5.10 W/kg (69min TT @ 347W (5ºC)) (105min TT @ 330W)
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Piotr..................267W.......55kg......4.85W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
MintID................370W.......77.5kg......4.78W/kg (Beginner Class)
rmur(Mar.08).......410W.......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w........61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
PaulMD...............317w.......67.5kg....4.71w/kg (recreational rider, training for La Marmotte)
pledac................312W.......67.5kg....4.62W/kg (39, PT Pro, from 0.93*20MMP)
esammuli............302W.......66.4kg.....4.55 W/kg (22, Cat III, SoCal)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
bigbadwoulfe.......320W.......73.0kg....4.41W/kg
iliveonnitro...........290W........67kg.....4.33W/kg (21, cat3, IL)
tehpr3chr............315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Cat III, GA)
Tyson.................315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Sillyoldtwit)
bigwillie013........300W.....70kg......4.29W/kg beginner in racing (Germany, C-Class)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg....4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
waterrockets.......345W.......80.9kg....4.26W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
Hammertoe.........256W.......61.2kg....4.18W/kg (middle aged, well marbled, hill climber)
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
tonyzackery........365W.......88kg.......4.15W/kg (Cat4, 1hr+ L4 climbs on trainer)
grahamspringett.....268W.....65kg....4.12W/kg (Masters 2, looking forward to 32km mountain climb in stage race)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
ctgt...................270W.......70kg.......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
mikeyp123...........260W.......67.5kg.....3.85W/kg (Cat 5, SoCal, 32, racer noob, 230 -> 260 so far this season)
No1kung1............294W.......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
otb4evr...............375W.......99kg......3.79w/kg (Cat3, 40+, 40k @ 56:51 - 348 AP on TT bike)
Simone.................226W.......60,7kg..... 3.72 W/kg (Simone@Italy, 30, rides for fun)
ruleof72..............272W.......74kg.......3.67W/kg (almost 44, former bad crit racer, likes to climb)
artemidorus.........315W.......86kg......3.66W/kg (commuter, 38, rides for fun)
Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
catlike.................232W.......65kg......3.57W/kg (2nd year of training, M32)
kopride................283W.......79.5kg....3.55 W/kg (Weekend Warrior, Philly)
dkrenik................260W......78.9kg....3.3W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
RJBTrek...............243W.......85kg.......2.86W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Alex Simmons.......240W.......92kg.......2.61W/kg (MAP 355W, 10-mile TT 248W, SRM, M40+ track enduro, acquired LBK amputee in 2007)
Fergie.................242W.......90kg.......2.42W/kg (M1 NZ, fat rider, underweight coach)
Alex Simmons.......185W.......100kg.......1.85W/kg (75% of MAP 246W, SRM, M40+ track enduro, in rehab, LBK amputee using 100mm left crank arm)

Update. Testing completed this week. 10-mile (16km) TT on Tuesday and a MAP test today. Now back on full length cranks. C'mon Fergie, where are you?

I will leave my other listing there as a reminder. Started 3 months ago, with 100 watts for 15-minutes.
 
KP....................275W.......49kg....5.61W/kg 4th place finisher womens olympic MTB
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
Markster............352W.......69kg......5.10 W/kg (69min TT @ 347W (5ºC)) (105min TT @ 330W)
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Piotr..................267W.......55kg......4.85W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
MintID................370W.......77.5kg......4.78W/kg (Beginner Class)
rmur(Mar.08).......410W.......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w........61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
PaulMD...............317w.......67.5kg....4.71w/kg (recreational rider, training for La Marmotte)
pledac................312W.......67.5kg....4.62W/kg (39, PT Pro, from 0.93*20MMP)
esammuli............302W.......66.4kg.....4.55 W/kg (22, Cat III, SoCal)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
bigbadwoulfe.......320W.......73.0kg....4.41W/kg
iliveonnitro...........290W........67kg.....4.33W/kg (21, cat3, IL)
tehpr3chr............315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Cat III, GA)
Tyson.................315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Sillyoldtwit)
bigwillie013........300W.....70kg......4.29W/kg beginner in racing (Germany, C-Class)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg....4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
waterrockets.......345W.......80.9kg....4.26W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
Hammertoe.........256W.......61.2kg....4.18W/kg (middle aged, well marbled, hill climber)
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
tonyzackery........365W.......88kg.......4.15W/kg (Cat4, 1hr+ L4 climbs on trainer)
grahamspringett.....268W.....65kg....4.12W/kg (Masters 2, looking forward to 32km mountain climb in stage race)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
ctgt...................270W.......70kg.......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
mikeyp123...........260W.......67.5kg.....3.85W/kg (Cat 5, SoCal, 32, racer noob, 230 -> 260 so far this season)
No1kung1............294W.......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
otb4evr...............375W.......99kg......3.79w/kg (Cat3, 40+, 40k @ 56:51 - 348 AP on TT bike)
Simone.................226W.......60,7kg..... 3.72 W/kg (Simone@Italy, 30, rides for fun)
ruleof72..............272W.......74kg.......3.67W/kg (almost 44, former bad crit racer, likes to climb)
artemidorus.........315W.......86kg......3.66W/kg (commuter, 38, rides for fun)
Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
catlike.................232W.......65kg......3.57W/kg (2nd year of training, M32)
kopride................283W.......79.5kg....3.55 W/kg (Weekend Warrior, Philly)
dkrenik................260W......78.9kg....3.3W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
Swampy............259W.......88.5Kg....2.93W/kg (Iron lung boozehound)
RJBTrek...............243W.......85kg.......2.86W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Alex Simmons.......240W.......92kg.......2.61W/kg (MAP 355W, 10-mile TT 248W, SRM, M40+ track enduro, acquired LBK amputee in 2007)
Fergie.................242W.......90kg.......2.42W/kg (M1 NZ, fat rider, underweight coach)
Alex Simmons.......185W.......100kg.......1.85W/kg (75% of MAP 246W, SRM, M40+ track enduro, in rehab, LBK amputee using 100mm left crank arm)

First ride with PowerTap and first ride monitoring power since 1995. From the perceived "exhaustion" I think this is really the first hard ride I've done in something like 12 years. Way harder than all the hilly rides I've been doing that I thought were hard. Required stuffing it into a bigger gear for the last minute to keep the power constant with the prior 19 minutes.

It'll be interesting to see what the effect of my meds is as I did this test without - they've been giving me throat problems to the point where I can't speak too well
 
KP....................275W.......49kg....5.61W/kg 4th place finisher womens olympic MTB
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
Markster............352W.......69kg......5.10 W/kg (69min TT @ 347W (5ºC)) (105min TT @ 330W)
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Piotr..................267W.......55kg......4.85W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
MintID................370W.......77.5kg......4.78W/kg (Beginner Class)
rmur(Mar.08).......410W.......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w........61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
PaulMD...............317w.......67.5kg....4.71w/kg (recreational rider, training for La Marmotte)
pledac................312W.......67.5kg....4.62W/kg (39, PT Pro, from 0.93*20MMP)
esammuli............302W.......66.4kg.....4.55 W/kg (22, Cat III, SoCal)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
bigbadwoulfe.......320W.......73.0kg....4.41W/kg
iliveonnitro...........290W........67kg.....4.33W/kg (21, cat3, IL)
tehpr3chr............315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Cat III, GA)
Tyson.................315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Sillyoldtwit)
bigwillie013........300W.....70kg......4.29W/kg beginner in racing (Germany, C-Class)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg....4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
waterrockets.......345W.......80.9kg....4.26W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
Hammertoe.........256W.......61.2kg....4.18W/kg (middle aged, well marbled, hill climber)
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
tonyzackery........365W.......88kg.......4.15W/kg (Cat4, 1hr+ L4 climbs on trainer)
grahamspringett.....268W.....65kg....4.12W/kg (Masters 2, looking forward to 32km mountain climb in stage race)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
ctgt...................270W.......70kg.......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
mikeyp123...........260W.......67.5kg.....3.85W/kg (Cat 5, SoCal, 32, racer noob, 230 -> 260 so far this season)
No1kung1............294W.......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
otb4evr...............375W.......99kg......3.79w/kg (Cat3, 40+, 40k @ 56:51 - 348 AP on TT bike)
Simone.................226W.......60,7kg..... 3.72 W/kg (Simone@Italy, 30, rides for fun)
ruleof72..............272W.......74kg.......3.67W/kg (almost 44, former bad crit racer, likes to climb)
artemidorus.........315W.......86kg......3.66W/kg (commuter, 38, rides for fun)
Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
catlike.................232W.......65kg......3.57W/kg (2nd year of training, M32)
kopride................283W.......79.5kg....3.55 W/kg (Weekend Warrior, Philly)
dkrenik................260W......78.9kg....3.3W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
Swampy............259W.......88.5Kg....2.93W/kg (Iron lung boozehound)
RJBTrek...............243W.......85kg.......2.86W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Alex Simmons.......240W.......92kg.......2.61W/kg (MAP 355W, 10-mile TT 248W, SRM, M40+ track enduro, acquired LBK amputee in 2007)
Fergie.................242W.......90kg.......2.42W/kg (M1 NZ, fat rider, underweight coach)
Felt_Rider..........190W.........78kg.......2.43W/kg (club rider)
 
KP....................275W.......49kg....5.61W/kg 4th place finisher womens olympic MTB
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
Markster............352W.......69kg......5.10 W/kg (69min TT @ 347W (5ºC)) (105min TT @ 330W)
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Piotr..................267W.......55kg......4.85W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
MintID................370W.......77.5kg......4.78W/kg (Beginner Class)
rmur(Mar.08).......410W.......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w........61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
PaulMD...............317w.......67.5kg....4.71w/kg (recreational rider, training for La Marmotte)
pledac................312W.......67.5kg....4.62W/kg (39, PT Pro, from 0.93*20MMP)
esammuli............302W.......66.4kg.....4.55 W/kg (22, Cat III, SoCal)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
bigbadwoulfe.......320W.......73.0kg....4.41W/kg
iliveonnitro...........290W........67kg.....4.33W/kg (21, cat3, IL)
tehpr3chr............315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Cat III, GA)
Tyson.................315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Sillyoldtwit)
bigwillie013........300W.....70kg......4.29W/kg beginner in racing (Germany, C-Class)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg....4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
waterrockets.......345W.......80.9kg....4.26W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
Hammertoe.........256W.......61.2kg....4.18W/kg (middle aged, well marbled, hill climber)
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
tonyzackery........365W.......88kg.......4.15W/kg (Cat4, 1hr+ L4 climbs on trainer)
grahamspringett.....268W.....65kg....4.12W/kg (Masters 2, looking forward to 32km mountain climb in stage race)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
ctgt...................270W.......70kg.......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Sgrundy...............255W.......65kg.........3.92W/kg (Cat 4, NYC, 20'MMP * 0.95)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
mikeyp123...........260W.......67.5kg.....3.85W/kg (Cat 5, SoCal, 32, racer noob, 230 -> 260 so far this season)
No1kung1............294W.......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
otb4evr...............375W.......99kg......3.79w/kg (Cat3, 40+, 40k @ 56:51 - 348 AP on TT bike)
Simone.................226W.......60,7kg..... 3.72 W/kg (Simone@Italy, 30, rides for fun)
ruleof72..............272W.......74kg.......3.67W/kg (almost 44, former bad crit racer, likes to climb)
artemidorus.........315W.......86kg......3.66W/kg (commuter, 38, rides for fun)
Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
catlike.................232W.......65kg......3.57W/kg (2nd year of training, M32)
kopride................283W.......79.5kg....3.55 W/kg (Weekend Warrior, Philly)
dkrenik................260W......78.9kg....3.3W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
Swampy............259W.......88.5Kg....2.93W/kg (Iron lung boozehound)
RJBTrek...............243W.......85kg.......2.86W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Alex Simmons.......240W.......92kg.......2.61W/kg (MAP 355W, 10-mile TT 248W, SRM, M40+ track enduro, acquired LBK amputee in 2007)
Fergie.................242W.......90kg.......2.42W/kg (M1 NZ, fat rider, underweight coach)
Felt_Rider..........190W.........78kg.......2.43W/kg (club rider)
 
Thou shalt not post results whilst still feeling like ****... and forget to multiply by .9

Whoopsie.

Thankfully I'm a few pounds lighter and have blown the cobwebs out of the lungs but God damn my legs are effing sore these days. ;) It's been interesting to note power, heart rate and perceived hip flexor destruction and hamstring death...

So, for the 'guestimate' from a 20 minute test, do I multiply by .9, .93 or .95 - there seems to be a few different values being used for this one.

KP....................275W.......49kg....5.61W/kg 4th place finisher womens olympic MTB
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
Markster............352W.......69kg......5.10 W/kg (69min TT @ 347W (5ºC)) (105min TT @ 330W)
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Piotr..................267W.......55kg......4.85W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
MintID................370W.......77.5kg......4.78W/kg (Beginner Class)
rmur(Mar.08).......410W.......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w........61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
PaulMD...............317w.......67.5kg....4.71w/kg (recreational rider, training for La Marmotte)
pledac................312W.......67.5kg....4.62W/kg (39, PT Pro, from 0.93*20MMP)
esammuli............302W.......66.4kg.....4.55 W/kg (22, Cat III, SoCal)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
bigbadwoulfe.......320W.......73.0kg....4.41W/kg
iliveonnitro...........290W........67kg.....4.33W/kg (21, cat3, IL)
tehpr3chr............315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Cat III, GA)
Tyson.................315W......73kg.......4.3W/Kg (Sillyoldtwit)
bigwillie013........300W.....70kg......4.29W/kg beginner in racing (Germany, C-Class)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg....4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
waterrockets.......345W.......80.9kg....4.26W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
Hammertoe.........256W.......61.2kg....4.18W/kg (middle aged, well marbled, hill climber)
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
tonyzackery........365W.......88kg.......4.15W/kg (Cat4, 1hr+ L4 climbs on trainer)
grahamspringett.....268W.....65kg....4.12W/kg (Masters 2, looking forward to 32km mountain climb in stage race)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
ctgt...................270W.......70kg.......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
mikeyp123...........260W.......67.5kg.....3.85W/kg (Cat 5, SoCal, 32, racer noob, 230 -> 260 so far this season)
No1kung1............294W.......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
otb4evr...............375W.......99kg......3.79w/kg (Cat3, 40+, 40k @ 56:51 - 348 AP on TT bike)
Simone.................226W.......60,7kg..... 3.72 W/kg (Simone@Italy, 30, rides for fun)
ruleof72..............272W.......74kg.......3.67W/kg (almost 44, former bad crit racer, likes to climb)
artemidorus.........315W.......86kg......3.66W/kg (commuter, 38, rides for fun)
Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
catlike.................232W.......65kg......3.57W/kg (2nd year of training, M32)
kopride................283W.......79.5kg....3.55 W/kg (Weekend Warrior, Philly)
dkrenik................260W......78.9kg....3.3W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
RJBTrek...............243W.......85kg.......2.86W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Swampy............233W.......88.5Kg....2.63W/kg (rusty squeezebox lungs)
Alex Simmons.......240W.......92kg.......2.61W/kg (MAP 355W, 10-mile TT 248W, SRM, M40+ track enduro, acquired LBK amputee in 2007)
Fergie.................242W.......90kg.......2.42W/kg (M1 NZ, fat rider, underweight coach)
Alex Simmons.......185W.......100kg.......1.85W/kg (75% of MAP 246W, SRM, M40+ track enduro, in rehab, LBK amputee using 100mm left crank arm)
 
swampy1970 said:
So, for the 'guestimate' from a 20 minute test, do I multiply by .9, .93 or .95 - there seems to be a few different values being used for this one.

Swampy............233W.......88.5Kg....2.63W/kg (rusty squeezebox lungs)
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0.95 is often used however it can range from 0.92 - 0.98.

A few thoughts:

i. Not everyone has same ratio of 20-min to 60-min power. Overall fitness as well as one's anaerobic work capacity can influence the ratio not to mention the test protocol (i.e. what you did before the 20-min test).

ii. This ratio can vary up/down for an individual through training.

iii. It's usually a good idea to have a 2nd check point for FTP.

e.g. if you did a full blown effort of ~ 5-min and used that along with your 20-min result in the Critical Power model, that might help you nail it down a little tighter.

Here are my thoughts on methods used to assess FTP:
http://alex-cycle.blogspot.com/2008/05/seven-deadly-sins.html
 
swampy1970 said:
Thou shalt not post results whilst still feeling like ****.
Click to expand...
Thou shalt always use the latest list to update as well - by using an old one you've wiped out more recent updates....
 
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