http://velonews.com/news/fea/11589.0.html
I guess it is not that uncommon.. probably Blatchford, and others are doing the same..
I guess it is not that uncommon.. probably Blatchford, and others are doing the same..
This is ridiculous accusation. As a resident athlete, Blatch was tested regularly. There is no reason to even suspect he is running top fuel.cat6 said:http://velonews.com/news/fea/11589.0.html
I guess it is not that uncommon.. probably Blatchford, and others are doing the same..
My first thought was to ignore the stupidity, but I couldnt. Back to FGFFixedGearFever said:This is ridiculous accusation. As a resident athlete, Blatch was tested regularly. There is no reason to even suspect he is running top fuel.
You say "Another us rider from SPIKE team"... are you implying there were other spike riders running top fuel?
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Bill, we probably both should have ignored!Billsworld said:My first thought was to ignore the stupidity, but I couldnt. Back to FGF
Just prepare for the next homegrown doping scandal in 4-5 weeks..FixedGearFever said:This is ridiculous accusation. As a resident athlete, Blatch was tested regularly. There is no reason to even suspect he is running top fuel.
You say "Another us rider from SPIKE team"... are you implying there were other spike riders running top fuel?
-jsp
We are talking USADA.... 4-5 weeks? How about 4-5 months?cat6 said:Just prepare for the next homegrown doping scandal in 4-5 weeks..
At this point sprinters results are so slow that they might stop dope themselves..(no competition and no international starts for either men or women riders).
As far as it goes this is the beginning of the end of US mens sprint.
Simple fact of the matter here is that Alfred couldn't afford a good lawyer to get him off...Flyer's.Finale! said:Absolutely no surprise about Stephen's anabolic steroids and female hormones.
Everyone knew---but could not say. (not politically correct)
Look to Stephen's teammates, training partners, coaches and competitiors for more of the same.
Next thing you know, Aussies trackies will start popping up with equine Growth Hormones eGH from an Adelaide based drug firm.
99.999% of doped athletes can pass $200 urine tests. Stephen certainly did over many, many years---just as everyone else did/does too.
They do NOT even test for 'synthetic testosterone' or hCH or Clomid UNLESS you blow up your T/E past 4:1. It was 6:1 two years ago. Nevermind the insulin, hGH, EPO microdosing that no test can ever catch.
Inotherwords---you can be doped out of your mind--and be considered 'clean'. Such is the righteous tradition of the commercial Olympian. Stephen must have offended someone at USA Cycling & USADA, else they would have fixed this result as they routinely do.
In a word: YES!Billsworld said:I am confused. Are you guys bashing US sprinters as being slow , broke and on drugs, or are you claiming that the whole sport is dirty.? What is your reaction to the handfull of guys that went under 10.0 in Moscow?
Losing the the first argument (all track racers avoid anabolic steroids, tosterone, female hormones, hGH and other Polypharmacy) you will now attempt to:Billsworld said:Yes to both questions? I guess your going to share with us your insight on the "natural" human capabilities of a male sprint cyclist. If you are faster than X you must be on something What is X?
I know you are wholly uneducated re: so-called drug protocols. that was apparent since you obviously believe in marketing myths, not the dirty facts.Billsworld said:No reframe at all. There is/was no debate. You imply that all elite track sprinters are juicers . Not just the slow underfunded Americans, but all of them. You also seem to have problems with the UCI testing methods. Frankly I dont know squat about drug use or the testing methods(seriously , I dont) and am now seeking your apparent wisdom on how fast a sprinter can go before he is going to be subjected to your drug accusations. Is the term "elite" defined by his times, or simply by the fact that he is competing at world cup events.....Is it "everyone at World Cup events on drugs or everone that goes faster than X on drugs. ...Just confused..... BTW I dont give Lance much thought.
He was doping when he was young too!Billsworld said:Why would you assume Blatchford or any other US rider was using anything? Must be the blazing fast times , or maybe the strong showings at world cup events. Blatchford is a youg kid, Alfred is a 39 year old trying to hang in. Dumb to accuse the whole Spike team!
FF, you make valid points more often than not with regard to conspiracies that exist in athletics, hell, the whole world for that matter, but until you can PROVIDE EVIDENCE that "THEY ALL DOPE at this level", your soap box rants about all pro cyclists using drugs IS NOT OBVIOUS, FACTUAL, NOR WITH ANY MERIT. As Bill mentioned, you simply whitewash everyone with the taint of drugs because, perhaps, you couldn't attain their level of performance?????Flyer's.Finale! said:...
3) discredit anyone who suggests the obvious---THEY ALL DOPE at this level...
You wrote consipracy, not me.tonyzackery said:FF, you make valid points more often than not with regard to conspiracies that exist in athletics, hell, the whole world for that matter, but until you can PROVIDE EVIDENCE that "THEY ALL DOPE at this level", your soap box rants about all pro cyclists using drugs IS NOT OBVIOUS, FACTUAL, NOR WITH ANY MERIT. As Bill mentioned, you simply whitewash everyone with the taint of drugs because, perhaps, you couldn't attain their level of performance?????
With regard to drugs, I personally (do a google on my name if you don't believe me) played in the NFL. My career was shortened due to injury, but I made it nonetheless and I was not, nor have ever been, on any drugs to improve my performance. So, I am proof that not everyone who makes money performing an athletic feat at an extremely high level needs to be on PEDs to do it.
I believe if you qualified you statements with an "I believe...", or "In my opinion..." you would garner more credibility. Just a thought...
You are a fraud, and I must say, appear to be a bitter person. I already told you I didn't use drugs and played in the NFL but you continue to insist "everyone from the NFL is on drugs...". But you call me dishonest and don't even know me; you are laughable now.Flyer's.Finale! said:--And until you can offer up some shread of PROOF (not silly presumptions)that a commercially endorsed athlete is 'clean; (does not use peptide hormones, amphetamines, hGH, eGH, IGF, insulin, Salbutamol, cortisone, cortisone based steroids) your assertion that athletes are clean is hogwash. Pure myth.
Everyone who played high school football---played hurt. College and the NFL demand daily doseages of drugs into order to train, recover over night and play aggressively--whilst injuried. Everyone from the NFL is on drugs (the punters and place kickers too)---even after retirement. You are not being 100% honest about that--despite your impassioned doping denial. (Floyd was more endearing in his little fib)
Whistle. I am thowing a flag on that post! 10 yards and a loss of down.tonyzackery said:You are a fraud, and I must say, appear to be a bitter person. I already told you I didn't use drugs and played in the NFL but you continue to insist "everyone from the NFL is on drugs...". But you call me dishonest and don't even know me; you are laughable now.
In your world, unfortunately, an athlete is guilty (if performing at a level you, the judge and jury, doesn't believe possible without drugs) until proven INNOCENT. What a novel state of consciousness - excuse me -consciousness. You'd be right at home in communist China, Cuba, or North Korea.
I hope you can get some help for your issues...I really do because you have some redeeming qualities and make a few valid points. However, the fact that you are opinionated makes your credibilty wane.
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