After looking and looking for an old school touring frame with long wheel base, lugged Reynolds steel, a non-sloping top tube and down tube shifter bosses, I think Bob Jackson still makes that frame, the World Tour 631. Their website, http://www.bobjacksoncycles.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=43, however, does not show the geometry of the bike. I emailed the company, but have not heard back from them yet and they are too far away, in Leeds England, for me to call from US.
I converted 360 in British pounds to US dollars, took off VAT and added shipping. Total cost is about $570 I think. Much less expensive than a Burley and Burley does not even use lugs. Surly does not use lugs either. Maybe it is about the same price as a Kogswell, but Kogswell does not build frames for loaded touring.
What is the word on Bob Jacksons? My understanding is that they were top of the line in 1935- 1985, but then sold the company to another company which made some inferior Bob Jackson frames for a while. Then, in 1993, Bob bought his company back and made good handbuilt frames again. How are their frames now?
Also, does anyone know the geometry (especially wheelbase, headset, bottom bracket, spacing and various standover heights) of the World Tour 631?
I converted 360 in British pounds to US dollars, took off VAT and added shipping. Total cost is about $570 I think. Much less expensive than a Burley and Burley does not even use lugs. Surly does not use lugs either. Maybe it is about the same price as a Kogswell, but Kogswell does not build frames for loaded touring.
What is the word on Bob Jacksons? My understanding is that they were top of the line in 1935- 1985, but then sold the company to another company which made some inferior Bob Jackson frames for a while. Then, in 1993, Bob bought his company back and made good handbuilt frames again. How are their frames now?
Also, does anyone know the geometry (especially wheelbase, headset, bottom bracket, spacing and various standover heights) of the World Tour 631?