Cesium Cures Cancer?

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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:18:30 -0000, "Anth" <[email protected]> wrote:

>It claims 30 out of 30 patients were 'cured' (in essence their tumours

I guess dead patients are counted as cured. Like they were with
another stuff where cyanide do kill the patient while also killing the
cancer cells .
 
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:24:36 -0000, "Anth" <[email protected]> wrote:

>treatment and were considered terminal cases. The Cs-treatment consisted of
>CsCl in addition to some vitamins, minerals, chelating agents and salts of
>selenium, potassium and magnesium. In addition, a special diet was also
>instituted. There was an impressive 50% recovery of various cancers, i.e.,
>cancer of unknown primary, breast, colon, prostate, pancrease, lung, liver,

Since it is already know for a long time that the rest of the therapy
indeed does relieve symptoms of cancer, like vitamins and selenium,
maybe even more patients would have been cured and not died, if CsCl
had been left out of the treatment.
For my part I¨'m very sure many more patients would have survived if
CsCl had been left out of the cure. Maybe all of them.
 
> Can you imagine all the unemployed people if Sartori's results were
> ever validated? Better to crucify him than lose all that money.

Why doesn't anybody understand money? Why, oh why, oh why. You're
losing social structure; "the machine". With roughly a 1/2 million
deaths per year (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm), you can
imagine all the associated jobs? Nurses, doctors, scientists,
insurance agents, grant organizations, etc. The number of associated
jobs must be in the tens of millions. And that's why we're going to
the Moon and Mars.
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Hurt Beyond Repair <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Can you imagine all the unemployed people if Sartori's results were
>> ever validated? Better to crucify him than lose all that money.
>
>Why doesn't anybody understand money? Why, oh why, oh why.

Much more money to be made by curing cancer. Then the patient lives
to pay another day. Why oh why do these conpsiracy theorist never
understand how stupid they sound?

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
 
[email protected] (DRCEEPHD) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

Thanks for that information but it doesn't really help to solve the
problem.
As I said, the calcium tablets which I have found to be most effective
(and I've taken a lot) are a brand called CalSup. They are made in
Australia by 3M Pharmaceuticals and are inexpensive - 60 tablets for
$AU6. Each tablet contains 1250mg of calcium carbonate, or 500mg of
elemental calcium.

Would you be able to recommend something more effective than this
source of calcium, and something easy to find? These CalSup tablets
are in practically every chemist in Australia.

Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/cellsalts.htm
 
[email protected] (DRCEEPHD) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
> >It is a carbon compound therefore 'organic' by definition.
> >--
> Who's definition, yours? Chemists around the world define carbonate as
> "inorganic". If you cannot accept that, look it up in the CRC, assuming you
> even know what the CRC is.
>
> Try this one on for size: -CN.
>
> RCN is a nitrile and defined as organic.
> NaCN is a cyanide and defined as in-organic.
>
> One form may save your cancer riddled body while the other will kill you deader
> than a door nail.
>
> Can you handle it?
>
> DrC PhD

But you have to remember C. that science has been deliberately stuffed
up by the illuminati, in order to keep people in the dark. Take for
example the idea about where oil originates. The following link is
very interesting and postulates the idea that oil isn't a fossil fuel
but rather of primordial origin, which means it was here from the
beginning.

The origin of oil and petroleum
Source:
http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-petroleum 
%20is%20not%20a%20_ fossil%20fuel_-humphrey.htm

The idea that oil is a fossil fuel comes out of the Rockefeller bible,
same place the pharmaceutical based medicine came from.

Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/conspiracy.htm
"Nothing would be what it is, 
Because everything would be what it isn’t.
And contrary-wise: what it is, it wouldn’t be. 
And what it wouldn’t be, it would. 
You see?"
-- Alice’s Adventures In Wonderland, 1865, by Lewis Carroll,
English writer and mathematician.
 
>Subject: Re: Cesium Cures Cancer?
>From: [email protected] (Carole)
>Date: 1/20/04 7:33 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <[email protected]>
>

>Thanks for that information but it doesn't really help to solve the
>problem.

Sorry about that.

>Would you be able to recommend something more effective than this
>source of calcium, and something easy to find? These CalSup tablets
>are in practically every chemist in Australia.
>
>Carole

I have a difficult time discussing minerals because their actions are not well
established in so far as their absorption rates, utilization rates, and
predicted effects are concerned.

I know for sure that the minerals in rocks that are in the soil are released by
bacterial action. These are organic minerals complexed with humic or fulvic
acid. This is what feeds the plants but these minerals are of no value to a
human. The plant absorbs these minerals and then converts them in its tissues
into another class of organic minerals. It is these minerals that the human
needs and can use and they are all organic.

Does the human have the needed enzymes to convert inorganic minerals into the
needed organic minerals like the plant can? I have not seen any data to say
that the human can. The human can absorb some of the minerals, transport them
around the body, store them and excrete them, but can we really utilize them?

Sorry I cannot more helpful. That is why I recommend juicing to get all the
minerals that you need in the correct organic and balanced form.

DrC PhD.
 
[email protected] (drceephd) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> [email protected] (Carole) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > [email protected] (Hurt Beyond Repair) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
> I appreciate the info Carole, but I have one concern.
>
> Horses are herbavores and eat grass. It is the bacteria in their
> digestive tracts that releases the nutrients in the grass for the
> horse to absorb. These same bacteria can process large amounts of
> Calcium for the horse to absorb.

I don't think it matters whether an animal is a herbivore, vegan,
vegetarian, frugivore and carnivore. I think the principle is the same
even for plants. Some plants will thrive in a more acid or alkaline
medium but the calcium needs to be kept in balance with other
nutrients.

> Humans are frugivores. We were meant to live eating fruits, nuts,
> seeds, and veggies. We can eat grass but we do not have the digestive
> system to digest it like a horse or cow does.
>
> A calcium product that may benefit a horse may only poison a human and
> create "stone" rather than "bone."

I think what stops bone turning to stone is to keep calcium in balance
with the other minerals. I've been taking mega amounts of calcium for
27 years now and have heard that large amounts of calcium can result
in kidney stones, but this hasn't happened. Keeping the calcium in
balance with other minerals is the key and this is where an
understanding of cellsalts comes in.

What the pharmaceutical companies don't want people to know is that
deficiencies in cellsalts causes symptoms, and each symptom can be
identified and shown to be a deficiency of one or other of the
cellsalts. For example, a headache can result from a deficiency of any
one cellsalt, but there are associated symptoms, such as watery eyes,
sneezing, difficulty in thinking, constipation etc. With a knowledge
of cellsalts a person is able to keep the calcium in balance with the
other cellsalts and avoid the problem of bone turning to stone, which
is just another name for arthritis isn't it?

The treatments for looking after horses on the
http://www.ranvet.com.au/acidosis.htm website, is practically
identical to the cellsalt theory. They have the treatment for calcium
deficiency, potassium deficiency and the acidisos remedy. The only
thing they don't mention is silica which maybe horses get plenty of
because it is found mostly in cellulose or vegetable roughage.

Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/acidity.htm
 
MattLB <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Carole wrote:
> >
> > Say not the Struggle nought Availeth <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > > As to sodium, we actually, on an average, consume way too much sodium.
> > >
> > > It is my impression, that there is no difference in the sodium delivery
> > > between sodium chloride, sodium phosphate and sodium sulphate. In all
> > > three, molecule, when placed in aqueous solution, immediately
> > > dissociates into the sodium ion and the cation (chloride, phosphate,
> > > sulphate). What the cation does thereafter is different.
> >
> > I'm not sure what a cation is. Is it when sodium chloride gets broken
> > up into sodium and chloride, and perhaps reforms into other
> > combinations?
>
> Actually sodium is the cation and the chloride/phosphate/sulphate is the
> anion. Cations are positively charged ions and anions are negatively
> charged ions. Positive and negative attract to make a salt. In water
> sodium ions are free and not in salt form (they're more attracted to
> water than chloride/phosphate/sulphate).

Thanks for that info.

> > Regarding table salt, I don't think it is an acceptable form of
> > sodium. The reason I say this is through my experience with taking
> > cellsalts. If I get knotted muscles in my neck or shoulders and take
> > sodium phosphate and sodium sulphate tablets, it gets rid of it. I
> > have never noticed that table salt has this effect.
>
> Well the important thing is what's different between them, not what's
> the same i.e. it's the phosphate and sulphate that counteracts acidity,
> not the sodium.

You sure about that?

From 'You are alkaline' - 
http://groups.google.com/[email protected]&output=gplain

"Protein creates uric, sulfuric and phosphoric acids. Carbohydrates
and fats, while burning mostly to carbon dioxide and water, also
create acetic and lactic acids.
"... To keep you alkaline, your body uses minerals to combine with
acids, creating harmless salts that can be eliminated. 
"...It is not so important to remember all you can about each mineral
or what part of the body uses each mineral ... just remember the names
of the 5 alkalizing minerals.
"These minerals are used keep you alkaline - Calcium Potassium Sodium
Magnesium Iron 


> > And another thing
> > is that I used to get housedust allergies which would only be
> > alleviated by taking homeopathic sodium chloride (nat mur 6x), whereas
> > straight table salt had no effect.
>
> Homeopathic sodium chloride contains so little sodium chloride you'd be
> overdosing if you took a single grain of table salt.

Yes, but you need to have an understanding of how homeopathy works.
Unfortunately, our materialistic science doesn't explain it and this
deception is intentional. The process of making homeopathic remedies
separates the physical elements from the etheric, and it is the
etheric element that is the more powerful and does the healing.
http://www.mrbean.net.au/~wlast/Homeopathy.html

However, homeopathy cannot be understood as a substance based method,
such as drug medicine or herbalism where any healing effect is due to
chemical reactions. A simple calculation shows that in the higher
potencies not a single molecule of the original substance will be
present. But these high potencies are often more effective than low
potencies. Therefore, homeopathy can only be understood as working
with energy remedies.

The explanation is that every natural substance has an etheric field
around its molecular structure. The special shaking action or
potentizing used in homeopathy separates the etheric fields from their
material substance. The latter is then discarded and the former
concentrated. These concentrated etheric fields are much more potent
in this way than when they were combined with matter. Similar etheric
concentrates can be produced with radionics instruments. The healing
effect of such concentrates depends on their vibrational frequency.
Because of this the name vibrational medicine has been coined for
these methods.


> > Therefore I conclude that table salt isn't an acceptable form of
> > sodium for nutritional purposes.
>
> It is for sodium purposes.
>
> > If there was a tablet called chelated
> > sodium which would then break down into the three sodiums (phosphate,
> > sulphate and chloride)
>
> Chelation is what you do if the salt form of an ion is poorly absorbed
> i.e. if sodium from sodium chloride didn't dissolve in water very well,
> you could chelate it instead to get it into the body. Chelated sodium
> can't breakdown into three different salts, because only the sodium ion
> is present in the chelate. Even after the chelation is broken down and
> the sodium ion released it won't bind to the anions, so won't be in the
> form of salt.

You need to have a basic appreciation of the cellsalt theory to
understand what I am going to explain - a brief explanation is from
the Biochemic Handbook by JB Chapman MD and Edward L Perry MD.

"The cellsalt theory says SYMPTOMS ARE NATURE'S WARNING SIGNS 
"Every disease which afflicts the human race is due to lack of one or
more of these inorganic workers [MINERAL CELL SALTS]. Should a
deficiency occur in one or more of these [MINERAL CELL SALTS], of whom
there are twelve, some abnormal condition arises. These abnormal
conditions are known by the general term disease and according as they
manifest themselves in different part of the body, they have been
designated by various names. But these names totally fail to express
the real trouble. Every pain or unpleasant sensation indicates a lack
of some inorganic constituent of the body. Health and strength can be
maintained only so long as the system is properly supplied with these
cell salts. "

Three of these essential cellsalts are potassium (phosphate, sulphate
and chloride), a defiency of any one can cause associated deficiency
symptoms peculiar to just the one cellsalt, not potassium generally.
Taking chelated potassium alleviates all deficiency symptoms related
to any one of the three potassium cellsalts.

> > it would probably do the job, as I observe that
> > chelated potassium alleviates all deficiency symptoms related to
> > potassium phosphate, sulphate and chloride.
>
> Then whatever is being alleviated is probably due to potassium.

Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/blood_acidity.htm
I believe in conspiracies - the real nutters are those who believe in
al-Qa’eda and weapons of mass destruction. John Laughland
http://www.antiwar.com/spectator/spec30.html    
 
[email protected] (DRCEEPHD) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> >Subject: Re: Cesium Cures Cancer?
> >From: [email protected] (Carole)
> >Date: 1/13/04 8:10 PM Eastern Standard Time
> >Message-id: <[email protected]>
>
> >You might have a point about organic and inorganic but are you sure
> >limestone isn't organic?
>
> Very sure Carol.
>
> CaCO3. Calcium bonded to a carbon with three oxygen atoms. The calcium has an
> oxidation state of +2 and the carbonate -2. The compound is therefore
> electrically neutral.
>
> You can call it limestone, chalk, dolomite, kiselguhr, oyster shell or coral
> calcium, but it is still CaCO3 in various physical forms.
> The gluconate and lactate would be organic forms as would the caesinate in
> unpasteurized milk ( that is unpasteurized milk.) The Ca in pasteurized milk
> has been converted to the inorganic form.

OK, from your science you have explained it to be inorganic.
However, from the following source it is explained as being organic -
so we seem to have a little bit of a discrepancy.

See http://www.angelfire.com/bc2/OrgChem/

The History of Organic Chemistry
The name organic chemistry came from the word organism. Prior to 1828,
all organic compounds had been obtained from organisms or their
remains. The scientific philosophy back then was that the synthesis of
organic compounds could only be produced within living matter while
inorganic compounds were synthesized from non-living matter. A theory
known as "Vitalism" stated that a "vital force" from living organisms
was necessary to make an organic compound. 1828, a German chemist
Friedrich Wöhler (1800-1882) amazed the sience community by using the
inorganic compound ammonium cyanate, NH4OCN to synthesize urea,
H2NCONH2, an organic substance found in the urine of many animals.
This led to the disappearance of the "Vitalism" theory.

Today, chemists consider organic compounds to be those containing
carbon and one or more other elements, most often hydrogen, oxygen,
nitrogen, sulfur, or the halogens, but sometimes others as well.
Organic chemistry is defined as the chemistry of carbon and its
compounds.

[diagram]

The Uniqueness of Carbon
There are more carbon compounds than there are compounds of all other
elements combined. Plastics, foods, textiles, and many other common
substances contain carbon. With oxygen and a metallic element, carbon
forms many important carbonates, such as CALCIUM CARBONATE (limestone)
and sodium carbonate (soda). Certain active metals react with it to
make industrially important carbides, such as silicon carbide, an
abrasive known as carborundum, and tungsten carbide, an extremely hard
substance used for rock drills and metalworking tools.

The great number of carbon compounds is possible because of the
ability of carbon to form strong covalent bonds to each other while
also holding the atoms of other nonmetals strongly. Carbon atoms have
the special property to bond with each other to form chains, ring,
spheres, and tubes. Chains of carbon atoms can be thousands of atoms
long, as in polyethylene.

> CaCO3 when exposed to the high acidity from the HCL in the stomach would be
> converted to CaCl2 and CO2 gas.

Yes, taking calcium carbonate often makes the stomach feel a fizzy
drink has been consumed.

> CaCl2 is one form of de-icer that works very well.
>
> CO2 gas is,....well, C02 gas. The same gas we breathe out with every breath
> and the same gas that makes a cola fizz or even champaigne.
>
>
> > Education is designed to support the status
> >quo and to socialise people - these days if you get onto something
> >they don't want known you get DDT'd - silenced, ridiculed or
> >ex-communicated. Isn't that right?
>
> >Carole
>
> You got that right.
>
> The worst thing an aspiring MD can do is to ask questions. They can be
> dismissed from med school real quick. You cannot brainwash people if you allow
> them time to sleep, time to think, or, heaven forbid, to think and ask
> questions.
>
> The church of modern medicine has all the money, the power, and every tool
> needed to decieve you, me and the whole world. It was prohesized to happen and
> it is right now.
>
> Still, I think that truth will win out in the end. I just do not know how long
> it will take. The shift of people going to "alternative" medical routes
> suggests that the lies and deceit of modern medicine may be nearing the end of
> its reign.

That's right, and you will often find that because the whole world is
under the rule of satan who is the master of lies, everything is
exactly the opposite of what the system says it is. The following
quote by Lewis Carroll puts it nicely.

Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/conspiracy.htm
"Nothing would be what it is, 
Because everything would be what it isn’t.
And contrary-wise: what it is, it wouldn’t be. 
And what it wouldn’t be, it would. 
You see?"
-- Alice’s Adventures In Wonderland, 1865, by Lewis Carroll,
English writer and mathematician.
 
Carole wrote:

> > > Regarding table salt, I don't think it is an acceptable form of
> > > sodium. The reason I say this is through my experience with taking
> > > cellsalts. If I get knotted muscles in my neck or shoulders and take
> > > sodium phosphate and sodium sulphate tablets, it gets rid of it. I
> > > have never noticed that table salt has this effect.
> >
> > Well the important thing is what's different between them, not what's
> > the same i.e. it's the phosphate and sulphate that counteracts acidity,
> > not the sodium.
>
> You sure about that?
>
> From 'You are alkaline' -
> http://groups.google.com/[email protected]&output=gplain
>
> "Protein creates uric, sulfuric and phosphoric acids. Carbohydrates
> and fats, while burning mostly to carbon dioxide and water, also
> create acetic and lactic acids.

What's missing here is that where it says acetic and lactic acid there's
no increase in the acidity, because these are the acid salts (acetate
and lactate) not the acids themselves. Under normal conditions the
hydrogen ions are converted to water. It's only when oxygen levels are
low that they act as acids.

> "... To keep you alkaline, your body uses minerals to combine with
> acids, creating harmless salts that can be eliminated.
> "...It is not so important to remember all you can about each mineral
> or what part of the body uses each mineral ... just remember the names
> of the 5 alkalizing minerals.
> "These minerals are used keep you alkaline - Calcium Potassium Sodium
> Magnesium Iron

From the same page :"To keep you alkaline, your body uses minerals
to combine with acids, creating harmless salts that can be eliminated."

The acidic part of an acid is the hydrogen ions (H+ cations). These can
be removed by reacting with basic/alkaline anions e.g. phosphate
PO4(3-). The reaction is: H+ + PO4(3-) >>> HPO4(2-). Another H+ can
then react to form H2PO4(-). This is how phosphate can neutralize acids.
You can't form a salt of sodium with H+ as they both have a positive
charge of 1. You can however form NaH2PO4 salt, which could be excreted
by the kidneys, removing those two hydrogens from the body. Incidentally
this is the mechanism that's claimed for why a high protein diet should
weaken bones - phosphate is removed from the bones to combine with acids
from the protein.

> > > And another thing
> > > is that I used to get housedust allergies which would only be
> > > alleviated by taking homeopathic sodium chloride (nat mur 6x), whereas
> > > straight table salt had no effect.
> >
> > Homeopathic sodium chloride contains so little sodium chloride you'd be
> > overdosing if you took a single grain of table salt.
>
> Yes, but you need to have an understanding of how homeopathy works.
> Unfortunately, our materialistic science doesn't explain it and this
> deception is intentional. The process of making homeopathic remedies
> separates the physical elements from the etheric, and it is the
> etheric element that is the more powerful and does the healing.
> http://www.mrbean.net.au/~wlast/Homeopathy.html
>
> However, homeopathy cannot be understood as a substance based method,
> such as drug medicine or herbalism where any healing effect is due to
> chemical reactions. A simple calculation shows that in the higher
> potencies not a single molecule of the original substance will be
> present. But these high potencies are often more effective than low
> potencies.

I realise this, but my point was that you shouldn't expect straight
table salt to do the same job as homeopathically diluted sodium chloride
because it's not down purely to chemical composition.

> "The cellsalt theory says SYMPTOMS ARE NATURE'S WARNING SIGNS
> "Every disease which afflicts the human race is due to lack of one or
> more of these inorganic workers [MINERAL CELL SALTS]. Should a
> deficiency occur in one or more of these [MINERAL CELL SALTS], of whom
> there are twelve, some abnormal condition arises. These abnormal
> conditions are known by the general term disease and according as they
> manifest themselves in different part of the body, they have been
> designated by various names. But these names totally fail to express
> the real trouble. Every pain or unpleasant sensation indicates a lack
> of some inorganic constituent of the body. Health and strength can be
> maintained only so long as the system is properly supplied with these
> cell salts. "

Chelation is useful for some minerals e.g. magnesium and calcium because
their salts aren't as soluble as those of sodium and potassium.

> Three of these essential cellsalts are potassium (phosphate, sulphate
> and chloride), a defiency of any one can cause associated deficiency
> symptoms peculiar to just the one cellsalt, not potassium generally.
> Taking chelated potassium alleviates all deficiency symptoms related
> to any one of the three potassium cellsalts.

That would still be because it provides potassium, not because it
provides potassium phosphate, sulphate and chloride simultaneously. It's
almost impossible to eat food and not get plenty of phosphate ,and
chloride ions are plentiful as normal salt. A potassium imbalance is far
more likely.

MattLB
 
In <[email protected]>, DRCEEPHD wrote:

>>Subject: Re: Cesium Cures Cancer?
>>From: WB [email protected]
>>Date: 1/14/04 4:49 PM Eastern Standard Time
>>Message-id: <[email protected]>
>
>>It is a carbon compound therefore 'organic' by definition.
>>--
> Who's definition, yours? Chemists around the world define carbonate as
> "inorganic". If you cannot accept that, look it up in the CRC, assuming you
> even know what the CRC is.

Charles is apparently going on the fact that the Rubber Handbook
lists calcium compounds under "physical constants of inorganic
compounds" instead of "physicsl constants of organic compounds."

Of course, in addition to calcium carbonate the "inorganic"
tables also include calcium tartrate, stearate, salicylate,
quinate, propionate, palmitate, maleate, lactate, ....

I particularly like the idea that lactic acid can become
inorganic simply by addition to a solution containing
calcium ions.

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>Subject: Re: Cesium Cures Cancer?
>From: [email protected] (Carole)
>Date: 1/20/04 7:58 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <[email protected]

>I don't think it matters whether an animal is a herbivore, vegan,
>vegetarian, frugivore and carnivore.

Sorry, but it matters a great deal. It determines what your true food stuff
is. And all animals, except man, eats its food as the creature finds it.
That includes catching prey to the other end whereby you eat dead creatures, or
maybe you just eat plants.

It matters and it matters a lot.



> I think the principle is the same
>even for plants. Some plants will thrive in a more acid or alkaline
>medium but the calcium needs to be kept in balance with other
>nutrients.

Different plants will thrive in different soils is true enough. All farmers
have to recognize this fact and adjust their soil pH. All things need to be in
balance. If not, you will deplete yourself of something and become unbalanced.


This is true of vitamins as well as minerals.



>I think what stops bone turning to stone is to keep calcium in balance
>with the other minerals. I've been taking mega amounts of calcium for
>27 years now and have heard that large amounts of calcium can result
>in kidney stones, but this hasn't happened. Keeping the calcium in
>balance with other minerals is the key and this is where an
>understanding of cellsalts comes in

I cannot argue your positive experience. Balance is essential.

However, a stressed body will act to counter any stress. If your calcium
intake exceeds your need or is harmful, your own innate body intelligence will
reduce your ability to absorb the offending substance while at the same time
increasing your ability to store and/or excrete the offending substance.

>With a knowledge
>of cellsalts a person is able to keep the calcium in balance with the
>other cellsalts and avoid the problem of bone turning to stone, which
>is just another name for arthritis isn't it?

I cannot agree here.

Arthritis occurs in 5 basic forms. All the billions of dollars in research now
allows the rheumatologist to claim to be able to define over 100 forms of
arthritis. Big deal for the money spent 'cause the patient is still left with
arthritis.

Arthritis has its genesis in toxemia. An accumulation of toxins in the body.
Secondarily, the body is becoming acidic.

The toxemia combined with the metabolic acidosis upsets the enzyme balance in
the body. Couple this with a mineral imbalance ( Calcium, magnesium, and
phosphorous ) and you have set the stage for arthritis in all its forms. The
two main problems to be corrected with arthritis seems to be the acidosis (
which upsets the enzymes in the joints ) and a sulfur deficiency.

Correct the acididosis, allowing the enzymes to once againg perform correctly,
and corect the mineal inmbalance and you recover from arthritis.

You have been healed. To be cured is worthless.

>The treatments for looking after horses on the

Horses are like cows. They do not have the enzymes to digest the stuff they
eat. It is in their stomachs ( plural ) with alll the associated bacteria. It
is the bacteria that digests the food for the horse, and the same for the cow,
the goat, etc.

We cannot compare the digestive system of a horse to a human any more than we
can that of the rat or mouse. This is another failing of modern medicine.

DrC PhD
 
[email protected] (David Wright) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Say not the Struggle nought Availeth <[email protected]> wrote:
> >As to sodium, we actually, on an average, consume way too much sodium.
> >
> >It is my impression, that there is no difference in the sodium delivery
> >between sodium chloride, sodium phosphate and sodium sulphate. In all
> >three, molecule, when placed in aqueous solution, immediately
> >dissociates into the sodium ion and the cation (chloride, phosphate,
> >sulphate). What the cation does thereafter is different.
> >
> >j.
>
> Bear in mind, J, that Carole knows as much about chemistry as a pig
> knows about patty-cake, so your explanation will simply cause her eyes
> to glaze over. It won't shut her up, though.

An interesting polite discussion going on, then someone
has to come in and insult one of the particiants
for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON at all! Note the choices
of words and phrases.
 
"soft-eng" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (David Wright) wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > Say not the Struggle nought Availeth <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >As to sodium, we actually, on an average, consume way too much sodium.
> > >
> > >It is my impression, that there is no difference in the sodium delivery
> > >between sodium chloride, sodium phosphate and sodium sulphate. In all
> > >three, molecule, when placed in aqueous solution, immediately
> > >dissociates into the sodium ion and the cation (chloride, phosphate,
> > >sulphate). What the cation does thereafter is different.
> > >
> > >j.
> >
> > Bear in mind, J, that Carole knows as much about chemistry as a pig
> > knows about patty-cake, so your explanation will simply cause her eyes
> > to glaze over. It won't shut her up, though.
>
> An interesting polite discussion going on, then someone
> has to come in and insult one of the particiants
> for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON at all! Note the choices
> of words and phrases.

When yo criticize an altie for the same behavior,you wil gain credibility. I
was thinking of Jan Drew.
 
In article <[email protected]>,
soft-eng <[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] (David Wright) wrote in message
>news:<[email protected]>...
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> Say not the Struggle nought Availeth <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >As to sodium, we actually, on an average, consume way too much sodium.
>> >
>> >It is my impression, that there is no difference in the sodium delivery
>> >between sodium chloride, sodium phosphate and sodium sulphate. In all
>> >three, molecule, when placed in aqueous solution, immediately
>> >dissociates into the sodium ion and the cation (chloride, phosphate,
>> >sulphate). What the cation does thereafter is different.
>> >
>> >j.
>>
>> Bear in mind, J, that Carole knows as much about chemistry as a pig
>> knows about patty-cake, so your explanation will simply cause her eyes
>> to glaze over. It won't shut her up, though.
>
>An interesting polite discussion going on, then someone has to come
>in and insult one of the particiants for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON at all!
>Note the choices of words and phrases.

Hey, newbie, before you start making a fool of yourself by claiming
"no reason at all," try to remember that there's a lot of history here
that you don't know about.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
 
"David Wright" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Hurt Beyond Repair <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Can you imagine all the unemployed people if Sartori's results were
> >> ever validated? Better to crucify him than lose all that money.
> >
> >Why doesn't anybody understand money? Why, oh why, oh why.
>
> Much more money to be made by curing cancer. Then the patient lives
> to pay another day. Why oh why do these conpsiracy theorist never
> understand how stupid they sound?

Sure Dave, there are always two ways to look at a thing. There are wacky
conspiracy theories and common everyday rationales.

The trouble the average person has is, not which one is correct, but rather
that conspiracies theories exist at all.

Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/media.htm
No matter where you go, you will find rules to be followed. These sets of
rules for any given situation are called "Paradigms". It doesn't matter if
the rules are based in fact, assumptions, or lies. They are the rules to
follow, or you will find yourself an outcast, a heretic.
http://www.veritastruth.com/.
 
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