That's utter bull. You go back and reread my posts.
Why cannot you grasp the obvious? Is it really so challenging to see the truth? Is the fog that soupy?
You have many public admissions on the record:
Merckx, Coppi, Moser, Anquetil, Plankaert, Chiotti, Thevenet, Van Der Velde, Laurent, Geminiani, Dotto, Letort, Winnen, Millar, Gaumont, Manzano, Camenzind, Lotz, Zulle, Virenque, Herve, Brochard, Moreau, amongst others---most of these confessions ocurring in retirement except for the Festina boys who cried under oath in a October 2000 Lille Courtroom.
Then you have the dozens of riders caught by customs agents, housekeepers, and police---not dope controllers:
Millar, Museeuw, French, Pantani, Stephens, Vandenbroucke, Sassone, Simeoni, et al...
Then you have the admission of team directors---years later such as in PDM & Festina whereby systematic EPO and other illegal drugs abuse was a standard practice.
Did you think things changed after 1991 or 1998?
Then you have a rider dying every 60 days.
Then you have Tyler Hamilton, Perez, Hawaiin Triathletes going blood doping positive. You have 6 of the top 10 Tour of Guademala riders going EPO positive--you have a 16 year South African going EPO positive. You have the winners of the past 4 years of junior world sprinter going drug positive.
You have Lance's trainer, Michele Ferrari's conviction.
You have Sandro Donati dossier and description of Francesco Conconi's corruption at the IOC. (Ferrari's mentor)
What additional proof do you require? How many more deaths? How many more convictions? How many more disgraces? How many more bi-polar behaviors?
Tearful confessions of each and every drug addict?
Guess what fellas, drug addict tend to live in denial which is where many fans prefer to live as well.
So, let's wake up and smell the IV feeds before the Tour de France throws up another big surprise 'doping scandal'
More than sufficient proof of widespread doping. Frankly, it's inescapable.
If you don't believe me---go ask a professional. They know what up with the meds.
Otherwise accept what corporate advertisers portray as 'clean sport' and buy their products.
No I do not own Nike stock nor wear their shoes.
But I am fond of life-science firms.
snyper0311 said:
Flyer,
I'm with Lonnie Utah on this topic. He asked you a question and you gave him a run around answer. No real proof in ANY of your posts. When asked for examples, you give off information that you have read, but nothing firm.
I would love to see your "proof", it would really help make sence of your posts, but you NEVER have, and probobly never will give anything concrete.
Something that can be proven is the fact that the lists you give as to cyclists that have died due to doping is false. Not one of the death certificates for these guys lists EPO/doping or performance enhancers as the DIRECT cause of death, not even associated with or due to.
Another claim you have is that cycling has turned to doping for commercial profit. I bet the shoes on your feet are Nike and ALL of the cloths on your back are "Brand Name." The sad truth of society today is that everything is associated to a name. Cycling just uses the "marketability" to promote the sport, as do all other sports.
Dude, this is not a personal attack against you and your beliefs, it is just a question as to how you can come up with some of your statements. I'd love to hear or see some concrete evidence on doping from you, but right now, you don't provide any of that.