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  1. Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the offer M... I'm starting to think of doing
    what Simon does and use it as the permanent security for
    home, buying a smaller one for the bike - the Magnum is
    really heavy!

    WHAT?!?!?!?

    <view, reveal thread, reads previous posts>

    phew.

  2. I was persuaded into cycling, so then persuaded my better
    half to try the route to my parents (I thought it about 10
    miles away, turns out to be more like 8). I knew I was
    capable of the distance, but the terrain was a slight
    concern - uphill all the way there to varying degrees, with
    virtually no let-up - as were some of the roads/traffic
    combinations.

    In the event it went really well, despite me having major
    headache with cycle computer whilst at parents and losing
    all the settings in the process of getting back it's ability
    to tell me what gear I'm in (very necessary feature of it).

    Need to instill in parents the idea that when a cyclist says
    'ooh it's traditional to have cake, you can be our cake
    stop' that generally means they need refuelling with more
    than just one slice ;-)

    Got the urge to raise the saddle so next time out should be
    a little easier on the knees. Managed to spin more, and
    managed to cycle up a small and not as steep as I thought
    hill whilst still keeping the cadence up nice and high,
    which I've not managed before (I run out of gears and the
    rpm is waaaay too low normally).

    Need to get better at stopping and getting started again
    quick at traffic lights, wished I had just one toestrap
    fitted, I'd be able to just pull the pedal up if I had, yet
    not have the panic of having to remove other foot from pedal
    on stopping. Need to signal, still relying on following
    t'other half and him doing the signalling for the both of
    us. Need to learn to change down sprockets and brake at the
    same time (should be possible in theory, but in practice I
    can't quite get the fingers to do what they need to do to
    make it work).

    Cycled down a hill I'd balked at before (down hills are
    scary). Cycled almost all the way up it on the return, which
    I'd never managed before. Cycled a long steady gentleish
    gradient that got steeper at the end (why do hills always do
    that?) - that was a relatively narrow country road, fairly
    well used by traffic as the alternative is a 40mph and this
    is a NSL, and wasn't bothered overly by the traffic.

    Bounced over a very nasty trench badly filled in across the
    road, so no avoiding of it, and discovered bike wheels are a
    lot stronger than I thought (no sign of rim distortion
    though I've not pinged spokes yet, and no snakebite puncture
    either) - and managed not to wobble enough to fall off bike.
    Managed an extended downhill gradient (gentle) at around
    20mph average (previously this was Scary).

    For some reason didn't feel quite so 'as one with the bike'
    but putting that down to mixing with traffic and being more
    tense from that, so hopefully that'll improve. Was led
    around the dreaded one-way system in the middle of Purley
    and wasn't splatted, so that was a major acheivement too.

    Returned hot and tired but not exhausted, and rather pleased
    with myself
    - relieved that the NSL road was actually fairly pleasant
    and not resembling something you'd find at Alton Towers,
    and a bit amazed that I was actually capable of cycling to
    my parents and back and only being defeated by one hill in
    the entire ride (and that was only a 50% defeat!)

    Velvet

  3. Velvet [email hidden] opined the following...

    Quoted message said:

    I was persuaded into cycling, so then persuaded my better
    half to try the route to my parents (I thought it about 10
    miles away, turns out to be more like 8). I knew I was
    capable of the distance, but the terrain was a slight
    concern - uphill all the way there to varying degrees,
    with virtually no let-up - as were some of the
    roads/traffic combinations.

    In the event it went really well, despite me having major
    headache with cycle computer whilst at parents and losing
    all the settings in the process of getting back it's
    ability to tell me what gear I'm in (very necessary
    feature of it).

    Need to instill in parents the idea that when a cyclist
    says 'ooh it's traditional to have cake, you can be our
    cake stop' that generally means they need refuelling with
    more than just one slice ;-)

    Got the urge to raise the saddle so next time out should
    be a little easier on the knees. Managed to spin more, and
    managed to cycle up a small and not as steep as I thought
    hill whilst still keeping the cadence up nice and high,
    which I've not managed before (I run out of gears and the
    rpm is waaaay too low normally).

    Need to get better at stopping and getting started again
    quick at traffic lights, wished I had just one toestrap
    fitted, I'd be able to just pull the pedal up if I had,
    yet not have the panic of having to remove other foot from
    pedal on stopping. Need to signal, still relying on
    following t'other half and him doing the signalling for
    the both of us. Need to learn to change down sprockets and
    brake at the same time (should be possible in theory, but
    in practice I can't quite get the fingers to do what they
    need to do to make it work).

    Cycled down a hill I'd balked at before (down hills are
    scary). Cycled almost all the way up it on the return,
    which I'd never managed before. Cycled a long steady
    gentleish gradient that got steeper at the end (why do
    hills always do that?) - that was a relatively narrow
    country road, fairly well used by traffic as the
    alternative is a 40mph and this is a NSL, and wasn't
    bothered overly by the traffic.

    Bounced over a very nasty trench badly filled in across
    the road, so no avoiding of it, and discovered bike wheels
    are a lot stronger than I thought (no sign of rim
    distortion though I've not pinged spokes yet, and no
    snakebite puncture either) - and managed not to wobble
    enough to fall off bike. Managed an extended downhill
    gradient (gentle) at around 20mph average (previously this
    was Scary).

    For some reason didn't feel quite so 'as one with the
    bike' but putting that down to mixing with traffic and
    being more tense from that, so hopefully that'll improve.
    Was led around the dreaded one-way system in the middle of
    Purley and wasn't splatted, so that was a major
    acheivement too.

    Returned hot and tired but not exhausted, and rather
    pleased with myself
    - relieved that the NSL road was actually fairly pleasant
    and not resembling something you'd find at Alton Towers,
    and a bit amazed that I was actually capable of cycling
    to my parents and back and only being defeated by one
    hill in the entire ride (and that was only a 50%
    defeat!)

    Glad you enjoyed the ride. With regard to down hills, the
    ride I was posting about includes a wonderful downhill
    section of rural road. According to the speedo (When I dared
    take my eyes off the road!) I was at 44.7mph. At that speed
    I hit three recessed drain covers and swore like a trooper
    as I was convinced my front wheel was about to turn crisp
    shaped. Despite this, both I and the bike survived although
    I was mildy disappointed to find that the speedo claimed a
    maximum of 44.0mph afterwards. One day I intend to break
    45mph on that hill.

    Jon

  4. Glad you enjoyed the ride. Keep it up!

    Cheers, helen s

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  5. Velvet <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    In the event it went really well, despite me having major
    headache with cycle computer whilst at parents and losing
    all the settings in the process of getting back it's
    ability to tell me what gear I'm in (very necessary
    feature of it).

    The Flightdeck? An excellent computer with the ability to
    give you virtual cadence; I really like mine. Did you sort
    it out before the ride back? I can't bear to have something
    like that not working properly. I'd rather put it in my
    pocket than have to look at it giving strange readings.

    Quoted message said:

    Need to instill in parents the idea that when a cyclist
    says 'ooh it's traditional to have cake, you can be our
    cake stop' that generally means they need refuelling with
    more than just one slice ;-)

    The aged p's definitely need re-educating on that score.

    Quoted message said:

    Returned hot and tired but not exhausted, and rather
    pleased with myself
    - relieved that the NSL road was actually fairly pleasant
    and not resembling something you'd find at Alton Towers,
    and a bit amazed that I was actually capable of cycling
    to my parents and back and only being defeated by one
    hill in the entire ride (and that was only a 50%
    defeat!)

    Well done, that woman! It sounds as though you just need to
    get more rides like this in so you can begin to relax a bit
    more on the bike. Then it really will be fun.

    --
    Dave...

  6. Jon Senior <jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOTco_DOT_uk> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Glad you enjoyed the ride. With regard to down hills, the
    ride I was posting about includes a wonderful downhill
    section of rural road. According to the speedo (When I
    dared take my eyes off the road!) I was at 44.7mph. At
    that speed I hit three recessed drain covers and swore
    like a trooper as I was convinced my front wheel was about
    to turn crisp shaped.

    A Pringled wheel at that speed could spoil your entire day.
    :-(

    --
    Dave...

  7. Jon Senior said:

    Anyone else managed to take advantage of the lovely
    weather?

    Better that we had Saturday's weather /on/ Saturday and that
    of March 21st on that day rather than the other way round...
    Spent an hour belting around Thruxton on Saturday which was
    all good clean fun except for my inability to arrange for
    Mr. Fleming's handlebars to fall off during the final
    sprint. Bah!

    --

    Dave Larrington - legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uklegslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk
    ===========================================================
    Editor - British Human Power Club Newsletter
    bhpc.org.ukbhpc.org.uk
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  8. Quoted message said:

    Anyone else managed to take advantage of the lovely weather?

    Didn't manage to get out on saturday but went out for a run with the local club yesterday morning - 45 somewhat undulating miles through the east Kent countryside at a moderate-to-brisk pace. One of the group had a camera and has put the pics up on the club website - you can see me here (blue jersey, second place):
    http://www.canterburycycleclub.net/sunday/25apr04_012.jpg

    You can find the pic of me fixing a puncture yourselves (this was how I discovered that I had no rim tape on my rear wheel - can't think how that happened, but it was particularly embarrassing to make the discovery while on a club run).

    d.

  9. Dave Kahn said:


    The Flightdeck? An excellent computer with the ability to
    give you virtual cadence; I really like mine. Did you sort
    it out before the ride back? I can't bear to have
    something like that not working properly. I'd rather put
    it in my pocket than have to look at it giving strange
    readings.

    I was miffed, definitely, cos I'd been interested in my
    experiments with keeping the cadence much higher (I tend to
    cycle somewhere between 70-80rpm and find keeping it 80-
    90rpm which would undoubtably be better for my knees AND
    prevent running out of gears on hills really quite
    difficult). But I was willing to forgo any hope of cadence
    (though did stick in the rough wheel size) since I ended up
    accidentally defaulting the entire thing, thus losing the
    gear teeth settings and odometer etc. As long as it showed
    me gears, I was happy - speed, cadence, distance etc, though
    nice to know, aren't essentials to enable me to ride without
    coming a cropper through mis-selecting the wrong gear, or
    attempting to select one that doesn't actually exist ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    Well done, that woman! It sounds as though you just need
    to get more rides like this in so you can begin to relax a
    bit more on the bike. Then it really will be fun.

    Ta :-) Yes, I love cycling, I'm just a bit nervous still,
    but it's improving all the time, and I'm constantly amazed
    at the distance I can do provided the terrain is fairly un-
    hilly (or at least long slow climbs not up/down/up/down).

    Velvet

  10. Quoted message said:

    As long as it showed me gears, I was happy - speed,
    cadence, distance etc, though nice to know, aren't
    essentials to enable me to ride without coming a cropper
    through mis-selecting the wrong gear, or attempting to
    select one that doesn't actually exist ;-)

    I think you might be relying on it just a bit too much here!

  11. Quoted message said:

    You can find the pic of me fixing a puncture yourselves
    (this was how I discovered that I had no rim tape on my
    rear wheel - can't think how that happened, but it was
    particularly embarrassing to make the discovery while on a
    club run).

    Some photos there of your club riding in February slush
    *without* mudguards! Yuk! :-(

  12. Simonb said:
    Quoted message said:

    As long as it showed me gears, I was happy - speed,
    cadence, distance etc, though nice to know, aren't
    essentials to enable me to ride without coming a cropper
    through mis-selecting the wrong gear, or attempting to
    select one that doesn't actually exist ;-)

    I think you might be relying on it just a bit too
    much here!

    you've not seen me on a bike, have you :-)

    My previous bike many many *many* years ago was a 3 speed SA
    hub :-) This is a whole different kettle of fish, and
    doesn't take much to send me into a bit of a tizz :-)
    There's a lot of things different about this bike than what
    I've had before, so it's almost been like learning to ride
    all over again (and I'm not quite there yet).

    Velvet

  13. In article
    <[email hidden]>, dkahn400
    @yahoo.co.uk says...

    Quoted message said:

    A Pringled wheel at that speed could spoil your entire
    day. :-(

    If it just spoilt my day I'd be happy. I don't imagine that
    flying over the handlebars at 40mph would be a Good Thing.
    Perhaps I should buy a cycle helmet... ;-)

    Jon

  14. Jon Senior said:

    If it just spoilt my day I'd be happy. I don't imagine
    that flying over the handlebars at 40mph would be a Good
    Thing. Perhaps I should buy a cycle helmet... ;-)

    No, buy the sort of bike[1] where you're much less likely to
    fly over the handlebars... ;-)

    Pete.

    [1] begins with the letter 'R'
    --
    Peter Clinch University of Dundee Tel 44 1382 660111 ext.
    33637 Medical Physics, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177
    Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden]
    dundee.ac.uk~pjclinch

  15. Quoted message said:

    No, buy the sort of bike[1] where you're much less likely to fly over the handlebars... ;-)

    The sort of bike where you're already over the handlebars to start with?

    How do they handle going downhill at speed? Pretty good, I'd imagine.

    d.

  16. Quoted message said:

    The aged p's

    A Woosterism if ever I saw one!

    d.

  17. Quoted message said:

    Some photos there of your club riding in February slush *without* mudguards! Yuk! :-(

    They say they're not a competitive bunch, but some of them are closet roadies with the kind of seriously lightweight bikes that are built with only one purpose in mind...

    Mind you, the one I envy most is Fred's utterly *gorgeous* Mercian.

    d.

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    No, buy the sort of bike[1] where you're much less likely
    to fly over the handlebars... ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    [1] begins with the letter 'R'

    Heading to Glasgow at some point soon with the intention
    of having a play on one. My finances won't stretch to a
    new bike at the minute, but it's something that I'm
    keeping in mind!

    Jon

  19. "John Hearns" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    MSeries said:

    Thats pretty much what I do. On day rides I usually
    don't bother taking any kind of lock. I rarely leave the
    bike unattended, when I do its either in a very quiet
    village or at a out of town garage which are usually
    quiet also. I rarely go into cafes or pubs when I'm
    cycling.

    I think that would be a good topic for a thread.

    A short thread.

    Quoted message said:

    Cycle friendly cafes and pubs.

    Cafes and pubs that are friendly to anyone at all?

  20. "Peter Clinch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jon Senior said:

    If it just spoilt my day I'd be happy. I don't imagine
    that flying over the handlebars at 40mph would be a Good
    Thing. Perhaps I should buy a cycle helmet... ;-)

    No, buy the sort of bike[1] where you're much less likely
    to fly over the handlebars... ;-)

    Pete.

    [1] begins with the letter 'R'

    Tandem doesn't begin with 'R' in any language I know :-)

    cheers, clive

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