"Peter Clinch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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Jon Senior said:
If it just spoilt my day I'd be happy. I don't imagine that flying over the handlebars at 40mph would be a Good Thing. Perhaps I should buy a cycle helmet... ;-)
No, buy the sort of bike[1] where you're much less likely to fly over the handlebars... ;-)
Pete.
[1] begins with the letter 'R'
Tandem doesn't begin with 'R' in any language I know :-)
cheers, clive
Blimey, this brings to mind something my brother mentioned while in canada vising friends/family. Recumbent tandem (trikeish). Somehow is either a recumbent trike, or a tandem recumbent trike of some sort, with the ability to change between one and the other, obviously.
I like recumbents but only trikes, and agree with the less likely to fly bit. I was quite happy to brake very hard and attempt a skid to a stop thing on the 'bent. Scared stiff of braking hard enough to do that on my upright ;-) Nothing to do with knowing I'd still be sat in the 'bent rather than picking myself up off the road in front of my bike, I'm sure... ;-)
Blimey, this brings to mind something my brother mentioned while in canada vising friends/family. Recumbent tandem (trikeish). Somehow is either a recumbent trike, or a tandem recumbent trike of some sort, with the ability to change between one and the other, obviously.
Sounds like the Greenspeed GTV, as pictured extensively on Richard Guy Briggs' website - see <http://tricolour.net/gtvs6.html> for more pictures than you can shake a stick at...
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Blimey, this brings to mind something my brother mentioned while in canada vising friends/family. Recumbent tandem (trikeish). Somehow is either a recumbent trike, or a tandem recumbent trike of some sort, with the ability to change between one and the other, obviously.
Sounds like the Greenspeed GTV, as pictured extensively on Richard Guy Briggs' website - see <http://tricolour.net/gtvs6.html> for more pictures than you can shake a stick at...
Y'know, I think that might be the one my brother saw/tried out. I distinctly remember tricolour.net was the website of one of the guys he visited...
Jon Senior <jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOTco_DOT_uk> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
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With the weather being so good, I thought I'd take the Giant out for spin........... Jon
Went up to the Lakes and camped in Great Langdale - glorious weather. *Walked* up Wrynose then down beautiful Duddon Dale to Broughton-in-Furness for excellent chocolate mouse and coffee.
Need to get better at stopping and getting started again quick at traffic lights, wished I had just one toestrap fitted, I'd be able to just pull the pedal up if I had, yet not have the panic of having to remove other foot from pedal on stopping.
Sounds like you may be ready to think about going clip less. Once you get the hang of it (which doesn't take long) it's *much* easier to remove your foot from a clip less pedal than from a toestrap.
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Need to get better at stopping and getting started again quick at traffic lights, wished I had just one toestrap fitted, I'd be able to just pull the pedal up if I had, yet not have the panic of having to remove other foot from pedal on stopping.
Sounds like you may be ready to think about going clip less. Once you get the hang of it (which doesn't take long) it's *much* easier to remove your foot from a clip less pedal than from a toestrap.
Nooooo!
I removed toestraps a while back :-) I have clipless but they're not going on till I'm happy I've mastered all other skills first :-) One step at a time!
Sounds like you may be ready to think about going clip less. Once you get the hang of it (which doesn't take long) it's *much* easier to remove your foot from a clip less pedal than from a toestrap.
I don't agree when the toe strap is left loose (as is a good idea for general riding). Getting in, however, is much easier with clipless, I find.
Sounds like you may be ready to think about going clip less. Once you get the hang of it (which doesn't take long) it's *much* easier to remove your foot from a clip less pedal than from a toestrap.
Middle-aged fatbirdonabike chipping in here to agree with Mr Colyer... unless Velvet has the strap so loose it is not holding her foot at all.
Cheers, helen s
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I did have the straps so loose that they didn't hold the foot it at all, but as I said they're not even on the bike any more. They made enough of a difference even as loose as that though for me to know I want some method of having feet attached to pedals eventually. Had to get rid of them when I discovered that shimano spd shoes (stiff soles are FAR superiour to tatty old trainers, aren't they!) would very firmly attach themselves to the triangular cleat thing on the pedal with the toestraps (the cleat holding bit would just insert between shoe tread thus making it impossible to pull foot back to remove from pedal/straps).
I'm back to normal platform pedals currently, and happy like that 99% of the time (it's just at junctions it causes a few seconds delay).
I did have the straps so loose that they didn't hold the foot it at all, but as I said they're not even on the bike any more. They made enough of a difference even as loose as that though for me to know I want some method of having feet attached to pedals eventually.
You can get plastic toecups which work quite well, my kids use those. Clipless is better, of course, but you can use the toecups with ordinary shoes. Well, you can get clipless with platforms that you can use with ordinary shoes as well, but I find them less comfortable than a platform pedal with toecups. For longer rides on the triplet I fit my clipless pedals to the pilot station, otherwise it's platforms and toecups.
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You can get plastic toecups which work quite well, my kids use those. Clipless is better, of course, but you can use the toecups with ordinary shoes. Well, you can get clipless with platforms that you can use with ordinary shoes as well, but I find them less comfortable than a platform pedal with toecups. For longer rides on the triplet I fit my clipless pedals to the pilot station, otherwise it's platforms and toecups.
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Yes, I tried a set of those but wasn't happy about one dragging/catching till I had the other foot in it - it seemed a lot more likely to snag being hardish plastic than the much more flexible plastic that went with the toestraps - and seems to protrude higher (and thus lower) off the pedal platform too. They might yet make it back on the bike.
Oh, and thanks, but I really don't see the problem with leaving helens sig in that last post. The resultant post itself wasn't huge, and didn't lead to lots of scrolling down. I trim as I deem necessary, not as others deem necessary, ta very much.
Sounds like you may be ready to think about going clip less. Once you get the hang of it (which doesn't take long) it's *much* easier to remove your foot from a clip less pedal than from a toestrap.
Middle-aged fatbirdonabike chipping in here to agree with Mr Colyer... unless Velvet has the strap so loose it is not holding her foot at all.
I used toe clips for many years, and still use them occasionally, but don't have the straps so tight that they restrict speed of exit, yet they still assist on the upstroke and provide some security. There may be some friction as foot is pulled back but that doesn't increase the time it takes to get out (by more than a microsecond). It's not a case of straps either needing to "hold" the foot tight or be so loose as to be useless*. Something inbetween is the proper normal state for general cycling.
I am a fan of clipless pedals now but speed of EXIT is not one of their advantages, IMO. I reckon it's actually slower to get your foot out with them. Not a problem, though (except perhaps when crashing) because it's still quick and easy enough.
* and even if strap itself was useless, the clip would still be doing something.
No, buy the sort of bike[1] where you're much less likely to fly over the handlebars... ;-)
The sort of bike where you're already over the handlebars to start with?
:-)
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How do they handle going downhill at speed? Pretty good, I'd imagine.
Not bad. I've hit 50mph on the Rolls Canardly coming down State Highway 1 into Dunedin.From 650m above down to sea level in the space of a couple of ks. The manic laughter as you do this sort of thing is unavoidable. -- Matt K Dunedin, NZ
I really don't see the problem with leaving helens sig in that last post. The resultant post itself wasn't huge, and didn't lead to lots of scrolling down.
It makes the difference between being able to read the entire post in the preview pane, and having to scroll down.
I really don't see the problem with leaving helens sig in that last post. The resultant post itself wasn't huge, and didn't lead to lots of scrolling down.
It makes the difference between being able to read the entire post in the preview pane, and having to scroll down.
Didn't know you used OE. You can hardly use that and expect any sympathy/special treatment ;-)
By ditching OE you could protect yourself against 85% of crashes[1]
I really don't see the problem with leaving helens sig in that last post. The resultant post itself wasn't huge, and didn't lead to lots of scrolling down.
It makes the difference between being able to read the entire post in the preview pane, and having to scroll down.
Good luck with your attempt to get every post to fit inside the preview pane then. What doesn't fit inside your preview pane may very well fit inside mine or vice versa - and even if it doesn't, it's a simple matter to hover my mouse over the pane (don't even have to click on it) and scroll the wheel button on my mouse.
As I said, I normally try to trim out excessive or irrelevant stuff, I don't top-post (unless the thread is already full of top-posting, in which case it's utterly confusing to bottom-post), but I don't expect to have to try and trim every single post down to the smallest possible size so it'll fit in someone elses preview pane without scrolling.
Good luck with your attempt to get every post to fit inside the preview pane then. What doesn't fit inside your preview pane may very well fit inside mine or vice versa
Posibly, my screen is only 1280 x 1024 (disappointing on a 19" TFT display).
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and even if it doesn't, it's a simple matter to hover my mouse over the pane (don't even have to click on it) and scroll the wheel button on my mouse.
And then you change machines on the KVM switch and the wheel stops working...
Anyway, it was just a gentle hint. Normally I send such things by email.
I once failed to ride a Claud Butler Majestic through a Vauxhall Nova at 25 mph, for reasons which are too convoluted to explain here. The top tube ended up kinked like a kinked thing after a serious bending process; the down tube was sheared around its entire circumference just behind the head tube and around 2/3 of its circumference just above the bottom bracket. The front wheel - and it was the standard one, nothing fancy or hand-built - was undamaged.
This was, incidentally, around the time that some dolt purporting to be a member of the "Institute of Cycle Engineers" wrote in one of the comics that he had "Never seen a properly-built steel frame break, even in a crash"...
I am a fan of clipless pedals now but speed of EXIT is not one of their advantages, IMO. I reckon it's actually slower to get your foot out with them. Not a problem, though (except perhaps when crashing) because it's still quick and easy enough.
Well.. I have had the just clipped in when starting off up a steep hill and unshipped the chain [1]. I was not making any forward progress at the time. I managed to get my foot down quite happily.. Not quite as quick as not having any kind of clips but without clips I reckon my foot would have come off the pedal and I'd be singing soprano in a heap on the floor.
..d
[1] The little chainring bent in half, dropping the chain.
