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Dr Curious
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"Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Dr Curious wrote:
>
> >> Phrases like "how do you suggest bus drivers are able identify which
> >> pedestrians to kill and injure" tend to imply a degree of intent,
> >> don't you think?
>
> > As did the original post which sparked off this sub-thread
>
> So who was it that introduced the Curious idea that cyclists bypassing
> the PT infrastructure might be the cause of the animosity?
Me. And I stand by the claim. Not are you potentially costing the bus
company a fare but you may well be irritating the driver to boot. If
you were sitting on a seat inside his bus, instead of holding him up
as he pulls into bus stops he'd be a much happier bunny all round.
>
> >> my first contribution was to suggest that
> >> pedestrians and taxi passengers were "deserving" of the same
> >> treatment, as they, too, are costing the bus company a fare.
>
> > So in other words you're suggesting that they're deserving of being
> > run off the road by a bus, as was the OP
>
> What on earth is going on inside your head? You suggested that bikes
> bypassing PT was a possible reason for animosity, I pointed out that
> this is also true of pedestrians, and taxi passengers.
>
> So, are you now going back on your original suggestion, or have you
merely
> lost the plot?
No. I still stand by my original sugestion. I merely wish you to
demonstrate how you think bus drivers are able to express their
animosity towards pedestrians and taxi drivers, in the way they can
so more easily do to cyclists.
>
> > And yet you still have to explain exactly how bus drivers can be
> > expected to single out and idenify non-bus-using pedestrians and
> > taxi passengers, in order to at least "run them off the road".
>
> Probably the same way they single out non bus-using cyclists: by looking
at
> whether they are in a bus or not. After all, you can't tell at sight
> whether a cyclist might or might not be an habitual bus user can you?
> Especially if they use a folding bike.
Yes that's all very well. But I'm sorry you can't suggest habitual
bus using cyclists as a means of escape here. Anyone riding a bicycle
is at that particular moment is a cyclist. What you still need to explain
is how exactly bus drivers are able to express this supposed animosity they
also have towards pedestrians and taxi users. The point being in all of
this
that its cyclists not pedestrians or anyone else who are the ones competing
with them for road space at bus stops. They represent a potential focus
for this animosty whether the other PT avoiders do not.
>
> On the other hand, Hanlon's Razor allows for a second and more plausible
> explanation: bus drivers are numpties.
All the more reason for staying well clear of them in the first place
then, eh?
Curious
....
>
> Guy
> --
> May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
> http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
>
>
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> Dr Curious wrote:
>
> >> Phrases like "how do you suggest bus drivers are able identify which
> >> pedestrians to kill and injure" tend to imply a degree of intent,
> >> don't you think?
>
> > As did the original post which sparked off this sub-thread
>
> So who was it that introduced the Curious idea that cyclists bypassing
> the PT infrastructure might be the cause of the animosity?
Me. And I stand by the claim. Not are you potentially costing the bus
company a fare but you may well be irritating the driver to boot. If
you were sitting on a seat inside his bus, instead of holding him up
as he pulls into bus stops he'd be a much happier bunny all round.
>
> >> my first contribution was to suggest that
> >> pedestrians and taxi passengers were "deserving" of the same
> >> treatment, as they, too, are costing the bus company a fare.
>
> > So in other words you're suggesting that they're deserving of being
> > run off the road by a bus, as was the OP
>
> What on earth is going on inside your head? You suggested that bikes
> bypassing PT was a possible reason for animosity, I pointed out that
> this is also true of pedestrians, and taxi passengers.
>
> So, are you now going back on your original suggestion, or have you
merely
> lost the plot?
No. I still stand by my original sugestion. I merely wish you to
demonstrate how you think bus drivers are able to express their
animosity towards pedestrians and taxi drivers, in the way they can
so more easily do to cyclists.
>
> > And yet you still have to explain exactly how bus drivers can be
> > expected to single out and idenify non-bus-using pedestrians and
> > taxi passengers, in order to at least "run them off the road".
>
> Probably the same way they single out non bus-using cyclists: by looking
at
> whether they are in a bus or not. After all, you can't tell at sight
> whether a cyclist might or might not be an habitual bus user can you?
> Especially if they use a folding bike.
Yes that's all very well. But I'm sorry you can't suggest habitual
bus using cyclists as a means of escape here. Anyone riding a bicycle
is at that particular moment is a cyclist. What you still need to explain
is how exactly bus drivers are able to express this supposed animosity they
also have towards pedestrians and taxi users. The point being in all of
this
that its cyclists not pedestrians or anyone else who are the ones competing
with them for road space at bus stops. They represent a potential focus
for this animosty whether the other PT avoiders do not.
>
> On the other hand, Hanlon's Razor allows for a second and more plausible
> explanation: bus drivers are numpties.
All the more reason for staying well clear of them in the first place
then, eh?
Curious
....
>
> Guy
> --
> May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
> http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
>
>
