Masi Record low-pro time trial bike on eBay
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Hilarious! But a classic.
The ask seems high to me, at least for an unused team frame with random
parts on it.
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Hilarious! But a classic.
The ask seems high to me, at least for an unused team frame with random
parts on it.
--
Ryan Cousineau [email protected] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Posting via one of his 50+ TROLL aliases, here is the latest scam
from...
Pirate John
Wesley Gilmer III (aka, [email protected], [email protected]
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected] or any of the
following in this partial list of additional known aliases:
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
bresner@eatmyshorts, [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
which are all associated with http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/,
http://www.BuccaneerPress.com, http://www.PirateJohn.com,
http://www.RidingIntoHistory.org,
http://groups.google.com/group/jimmy_buffett-moderated, as well the
Atlantic Beach Vintage Motorcycle Club http://www.ABVMC.com for which
Pirate John Wesley Gilmer III boasts of being its "el presidente") who
resides at 12526 Agatite Road, Jacksonville, Florida 32258 while
sweetheart scamming the house's alleged owner Deborah Lynch (aka,
[email protected] of http://www.deblynchrealtor.com) who is not
worried about her privacy as stated in usenet "Message-ID:
<[email protected]>" and instructed
him to "give the jackasses both barrels", posted the following via one
of his 50+ aliases...
[email protected] wrote:
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Subject: Masi Record low-pro time trial bike on eBay
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Masi Record time trial bicycle from Lance Armstrong's first pro team
Item number: 280070640258
Starting bid: US $1,400.00
End time: Jan-21-07 12:46:47 PST
Shipping costs: US $100.00 UPS Ground
Ships to: United States, Canada
Item location: Jacksonville, Florida, United States
History: 0 bids
Starting time: Jan-14-07 12:46:47 PST
Starting bid: US $1,400.00
Seller: matanzastrading
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I purchased this bike as a bare frameset from a former member of the
Montgomery-Subaru team circa 1996 or so. Lance Armstrong had turned
pro for Montgomery-Subaru circa 1992 and they ordered several of these
low-profile bikes. I still have a promotional poster from the team
that shows one of these bikes in the foreground and the team lineup
with Armstrong in the background. At the time the bikes were painted
white with bright orange trim on the forks.
I have never ridden this bike. I purchased it when I was contemplating
my 18th "come back" (or something to that effect) and never felt that I
was fit enough to do it justice. Now that I am hitting the half
century mark I must reluctantly concede that I will most likely never
again ride as quickly as I did when I was 19 unless it's on a
motorcycle. My loss is your gain, so to speak.
It was repainted by CycleArt, who I understand painted the original US
built Masis. I asked for the same orange color that was being used on
Gran Criteriums and the decals that were applied were Gran Criterium
"flags of many nations" decals that had the Gran Criterium logo snipped
out of them.
According to lore (I read it on eBay once so it must be true!) there
were ten of the Record time trial bikes built; two in Italy and the
rest in the USA. This bike has "001" and M5800" stamped on the bottom
bracket shell. There is also the "M" cutout in the bottom bracket
shell. The bike measures 23.5" from the middle of the bottom bracket
to the top of the seat tube so that matches the M5800 designation.
The parts are basically what I had laying around when the bike was
assembled 10 years ago. Some good, some not so fancy.
The rear wheel is a standard-sized wheel. There is an 8 speed 12-19
freewheel and an Ambrosio Durex rim. Cannot tell what the tire is but
it's most likely some sort of Panaracer time trial tire. The hub is a
Campagnolo Record.
The front wheel is a 26" Ambrosio Durex Aero rim with radial spokes, a
Panaracer tire, and some sort of Campy hub that doesn't look like a
Record but still looks pretty good.
Cranks are 175mm Campagnolo Nuevo Record. Chainrings are 52x42 and
some sort of black non-Campy ring. The pedals are either Campy Record
or Super Record with titanium axles (I had a set of titanium pedals and
they are either on this bike or another bike - someone will hit the
jackpot but frankly I'm not going to take them off the bikes to figure
out which bike has which pedals
Brakes are Campy Record with Modolo levers. I notice that the hoods on
the levers are dried out and aged a bit so be aware of that.
The water bottle is a Shimano AX. There is one Shimano AX lever; the
front derailleur does NOT have a lever since it would have been used
mostly to guide the chain. Sorry, but I don't know offhand where the
other lever is at.
Derailleurs are Campagnolo.
As you can tell the pads were never even placed on the aero bars and
the Cinelli tape shows no signs of ever being used.
I am not sure what tubing was used in building the bike; as we all know
the lore is that Masi liked to mix Reynolds and Columbus tubes. It
does seem to be a surprisingly stout frame, however, and when it was
repainted it was aligned and pronounced in good shape.
I am estimating the shipping cost at $100 to pack and ship in the
continental USA. I will have a local bicycle shop do the packing. If
the bill is less than that the balance will be returned to the
purchaser.
The frame is pristine and in as nice of a condition as any brand new
frame that I have ever seen at a bicycle shop. However, no warranties
meant or implied, your mileage may vary, etc., etc. This is, after
all, a used team bicycle, even if it is an extremely exotic bicycle
with a VERY interesting pedigree.
========================================
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The following is a deconstruction of the ******** above to present the
likely facts which the seller has a long-standing, years-long in fact,
history of avoiding in everything he posts or presents about himself
online. When offline, or in his loser so-called real life, he is a
known plagiarist, liar, sweetheart scammer, ambulance chaser, and has
committed various forms of abuse, mostly against older to elderly
females during his attempts at stealing from them all he could.
Avoid this known scammer and miscreant at all costs. Previous
unsuspecting victims of his paid dearly in both financial and emotional
setbacks due to the scumbag.
1) "contemplating my 18th "come back" (or something to that effect)"
a person has to accomplish something before they can have a "comeback";
this lying sack of **** has never accomplished anything in his life;
that's why he squandered money his pappy gave him for at least one of
his various failed ventures, he plagiarizes people who assumed he was
their friend; and is currently selling this because his mammy hasn't
yet died which he has been fervently anticipating in hope of receiving
more financial life support for his loser lifestyle
2) Now that I am hitting the half century mark
"another outright lie; he's already past that milestone"
3) "My loss is your gain, so to speak"
the thief undoubtedly stole this or at least a number of components for
it in the manner that he sweetheart scams elderly women to further
support his loser lifestyle; he sweetheart scammed someone out of
$30,000 three years ago and has lied about its intended purpose and
other details concerning it
4) "who I understand"
either they did, or they didn't; if the putz doesn't know the facts,
his description has no validity
5) "decals that had the Gran Criterium logo snipped out of them."
then they are butchered decals that mean absolutely nothing and
probably detract from whatever intrinsic or historic value they may
have had; they are merely decoration meant to obfuscate the truth
that this particular frame could be just about anything
6) "According to lore (I read it on eBay once so it must be true!)"
that is the level of 'expertise' this pinhead attempts to pass off as
authoritative fact; the reality is, he doesn't know and is merely
promoting a scam
7) "so that matches the M5800 designation"
why would someone state details in that manner? to further pass off a
scam, is about the only reason; either it is an M5800, or it isn't
8) "The parts are basically what I had laying around when the bike was
assembled 10 years ago. Some good, some not so fancy."
so, what is being peddled here is a cobbled together pile of parts with
no authentic provenance
9) "Cannot tell what the tire is but it's most likely some sort of"
further proof that the known thief and plagiarist has no idea what he
is selling; it also imparts the fact that the lying sack of ****
couldn't have made the aforementioned "comeback" because he never
accomplished anything noteworthy to start with; what kind of honest
depiction is, "but it's most likely some sort of"???????
10) "and some sort of Campy hub that doesn't look like a Record but
still looks pretty good"
who really owns/owned this bike? sure doesn't sound like the person
currently selling it knows anything about it or has the knowledge and
capability to properly ascertain which specific components are utilized
on this alleged "Lance Armstrong/Montgomery-Subaru" historical unit;
remembers the "The parts are basically what I had laying around"
comment? why doesn't he know what components they are or, disassemble
the components to determine what the part ase if he's such an
authority? seems like more evidence of his attempting to run one scam
or another
11) "and some sort of black non-Campy ring."
how many vagaries can he get away with while attempting to pass off
this questionable bike as being a noteworthy piece?
12) "The pedals are either"; "I had a set of titanium pedals and they
are either on this bike or another bike"
meaning they could be anything, and, more evidence of this bike being
nothing but a frame with cobbled together parts that have no relevance
to the "Lance Armstrong/Montgomery-Subaru" units he is trying to make
it out to be
13) "so be aware of that"
through my years of dealing with this inept scammer and malicious
internet TROLL, he has never failed to grossly misrepresent anything
associated with himself; consider the five words quoted immediately
above as your main focus when considering everything having to do with
this liar and thief
14) "the front derailleur does NOT have a lever since it would have
been used mostly to guide the chain. Sorry, but I don't know offhand
where the other lever is at."
huh???? there's a derailleur on the bike but it wouldn't be used for
any reason but to guide the chain, but, there was a lever to operate
the derailleur and he doesn't have it????? why would a bike have the
added weight of an unused derailleur and lever assembly affixed to it
when saving weight is a critical design element?
15) "I am not sure what tubing was used", and, "as we all know the
lore"
sounds like more typical obfuscation regarding this questionable
ratbike
16) "It does seem to be a surprisingly stout frame, however"
sure, but do you want to take the word of some dolt who knows nothing
about the complete bike or various critical components on it except
what he can visually see?
17) "when it was repainted it was aligned and pronounced in good
shape."
exactly why was this repainted and precisely who "pronounced it in good
shape"? the clueless dolt passing this off as something it is not? was
there a critical need to have it aligned or, if it were truly aligned,
was it done by competent and knowledgeable technicians?
18) "I am estimating the shipping cost at $100 to pack and ship in the
continental USA.
gee, the continental US is quite large; it just might cost a bit more
to ship from Jacksonville, Florida to somewhere in Oregon than it would
to somewhere in Georgia
19) "I will have a local bicycle shop do the packing"
with no mention of how much they may charge, and no assurance of how
good of a job they may do, and the possibility that both the shop and
the seller may disagree who is at fault if damage or loss occurs during
shipping, it seems like a recipe for disaster, the previously mentioned
warning of, "so be aware of that", seems in order here
20) "If the bill is less than that the balance will be returned to the
purchaser."
sure it will; all the buyer has to do is pay up front and then expect a
known sweetheart scammer, plagiarist, and malicious internet TROLL who
uses 50+ aliases to harass dozens of people return any shipping fees
not required
BWAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
21) "The frame is pristine and in as nice of a condition as any brand
new frame that I have ever seen at a bicycle shop"
but... it's been repainted for an unspecified reason and it has
allegedly been aligned for an unspecified reason and by unspecified
individuals; I'm sure this frame looks just as nice as any Schwinn,
Huffy, or other common bike found in some nondescript "bicycle shop"
22) "However, no warranties meant or implied, your mileage may vary,
etc., etc."
I guess after all that pedigree ******** was stated the seller had to
include a different version of his, "so be aware of that", disclaimer
23) "This is, after all, a used team bicycle"
with how much abuse and subsequent repairs, 'bondo', incorrect paint
and incorrect decals or other cover-ups applied to it?
24) "even if it is an extremely exotic bicycle with a VERY interesting
pedigree"
claimed by a seller known to ********, lie, and utilize 50+ aliases
while harassing dozens of netizens in every discussion forum he has
soiled by his presence; there is no mention of certification or proof
of provenance regarding this cobbled together ratbike being anything
more than what the seller wishes to pass it off as, not what it truly
may be, which, considering the sales pitch, is very, very questionable
at best; at worst, well, that's for the buyer to find out...
"so be aware of that"
BWAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BWAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BWAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
from...
Pirate John
Wesley Gilmer III (aka, [email protected], [email protected]
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected] or any of the
following in this partial list of additional known aliases:
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
bresner@eatmyshorts, [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
which are all associated with http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/,
http://www.BuccaneerPress.com, http://www.PirateJohn.com,
http://www.RidingIntoHistory.org,
http://groups.google.com/group/jimmy_buffett-moderated, as well the
Atlantic Beach Vintage Motorcycle Club http://www.ABVMC.com for which
Pirate John Wesley Gilmer III boasts of being its "el presidente") who
resides at 12526 Agatite Road, Jacksonville, Florida 32258 while
sweetheart scamming the house's alleged owner Deborah Lynch (aka,
[email protected] of http://www.deblynchrealtor.com) who is not
worried about her privacy as stated in usenet "Message-ID:
<[email protected]>" and instructed
him to "give the jackasses both barrels", posted the following via one
of his 50+ aliases...
[email protected] wrote:
From: [email protected]
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Subject: Masi Record low-pro time trial bike on eBay
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Masi Record time trial bicycle from Lance Armstrong's first pro team
Item number: 280070640258
Starting bid: US $1,400.00
End time: Jan-21-07 12:46:47 PST
Shipping costs: US $100.00 UPS Ground
Ships to: United States, Canada
Item location: Jacksonville, Florida, United States
History: 0 bids
Starting time: Jan-14-07 12:46:47 PST
Starting bid: US $1,400.00
Seller: matanzastrading
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I purchased this bike as a bare frameset from a former member of the
Montgomery-Subaru team circa 1996 or so. Lance Armstrong had turned
pro for Montgomery-Subaru circa 1992 and they ordered several of these
low-profile bikes. I still have a promotional poster from the team
that shows one of these bikes in the foreground and the team lineup
with Armstrong in the background. At the time the bikes were painted
white with bright orange trim on the forks.
I have never ridden this bike. I purchased it when I was contemplating
my 18th "come back" (or something to that effect) and never felt that I
was fit enough to do it justice. Now that I am hitting the half
century mark I must reluctantly concede that I will most likely never
again ride as quickly as I did when I was 19 unless it's on a
motorcycle. My loss is your gain, so to speak.
It was repainted by CycleArt, who I understand painted the original US
built Masis. I asked for the same orange color that was being used on
Gran Criteriums and the decals that were applied were Gran Criterium
"flags of many nations" decals that had the Gran Criterium logo snipped
out of them.
According to lore (I read it on eBay once so it must be true!) there
were ten of the Record time trial bikes built; two in Italy and the
rest in the USA. This bike has "001" and M5800" stamped on the bottom
bracket shell. There is also the "M" cutout in the bottom bracket
shell. The bike measures 23.5" from the middle of the bottom bracket
to the top of the seat tube so that matches the M5800 designation.
The parts are basically what I had laying around when the bike was
assembled 10 years ago. Some good, some not so fancy.
The rear wheel is a standard-sized wheel. There is an 8 speed 12-19
freewheel and an Ambrosio Durex rim. Cannot tell what the tire is but
it's most likely some sort of Panaracer time trial tire. The hub is a
Campagnolo Record.
The front wheel is a 26" Ambrosio Durex Aero rim with radial spokes, a
Panaracer tire, and some sort of Campy hub that doesn't look like a
Record but still looks pretty good.
Cranks are 175mm Campagnolo Nuevo Record. Chainrings are 52x42 and
some sort of black non-Campy ring. The pedals are either Campy Record
or Super Record with titanium axles (I had a set of titanium pedals and
they are either on this bike or another bike - someone will hit the
jackpot but frankly I'm not going to take them off the bikes to figure
out which bike has which pedals
Brakes are Campy Record with Modolo levers. I notice that the hoods on
the levers are dried out and aged a bit so be aware of that.
The water bottle is a Shimano AX. There is one Shimano AX lever; the
front derailleur does NOT have a lever since it would have been used
mostly to guide the chain. Sorry, but I don't know offhand where the
other lever is at.
Derailleurs are Campagnolo.
As you can tell the pads were never even placed on the aero bars and
the Cinelli tape shows no signs of ever being used.
I am not sure what tubing was used in building the bike; as we all know
the lore is that Masi liked to mix Reynolds and Columbus tubes. It
does seem to be a surprisingly stout frame, however, and when it was
repainted it was aligned and pronounced in good shape.
I am estimating the shipping cost at $100 to pack and ship in the
continental USA. I will have a local bicycle shop do the packing. If
the bill is less than that the balance will be returned to the
purchaser.
The frame is pristine and in as nice of a condition as any brand new
frame that I have ever seen at a bicycle shop. However, no warranties
meant or implied, your mileage may vary, etc., etc. This is, after
all, a used team bicycle, even if it is an extremely exotic bicycle
with a VERY interesting pedigree.
========================================
========================================
The following is a deconstruction of the ******** above to present the
likely facts which the seller has a long-standing, years-long in fact,
history of avoiding in everything he posts or presents about himself
online. When offline, or in his loser so-called real life, he is a
known plagiarist, liar, sweetheart scammer, ambulance chaser, and has
committed various forms of abuse, mostly against older to elderly
females during his attempts at stealing from them all he could.
Avoid this known scammer and miscreant at all costs. Previous
unsuspecting victims of his paid dearly in both financial and emotional
setbacks due to the scumbag.
1) "contemplating my 18th "come back" (or something to that effect)"
a person has to accomplish something before they can have a "comeback";
this lying sack of **** has never accomplished anything in his life;
that's why he squandered money his pappy gave him for at least one of
his various failed ventures, he plagiarizes people who assumed he was
their friend; and is currently selling this because his mammy hasn't
yet died which he has been fervently anticipating in hope of receiving
more financial life support for his loser lifestyle
2) Now that I am hitting the half century mark
"another outright lie; he's already past that milestone"
3) "My loss is your gain, so to speak"
the thief undoubtedly stole this or at least a number of components for
it in the manner that he sweetheart scams elderly women to further
support his loser lifestyle; he sweetheart scammed someone out of
$30,000 three years ago and has lied about its intended purpose and
other details concerning it
4) "who I understand"
either they did, or they didn't; if the putz doesn't know the facts,
his description has no validity
5) "decals that had the Gran Criterium logo snipped out of them."
then they are butchered decals that mean absolutely nothing and
probably detract from whatever intrinsic or historic value they may
have had; they are merely decoration meant to obfuscate the truth
that this particular frame could be just about anything
6) "According to lore (I read it on eBay once so it must be true!)"
that is the level of 'expertise' this pinhead attempts to pass off as
authoritative fact; the reality is, he doesn't know and is merely
promoting a scam
7) "so that matches the M5800 designation"
why would someone state details in that manner? to further pass off a
scam, is about the only reason; either it is an M5800, or it isn't
8) "The parts are basically what I had laying around when the bike was
assembled 10 years ago. Some good, some not so fancy."
so, what is being peddled here is a cobbled together pile of parts with
no authentic provenance
9) "Cannot tell what the tire is but it's most likely some sort of"
further proof that the known thief and plagiarist has no idea what he
is selling; it also imparts the fact that the lying sack of ****
couldn't have made the aforementioned "comeback" because he never
accomplished anything noteworthy to start with; what kind of honest
depiction is, "but it's most likely some sort of"???????
10) "and some sort of Campy hub that doesn't look like a Record but
still looks pretty good"
who really owns/owned this bike? sure doesn't sound like the person
currently selling it knows anything about it or has the knowledge and
capability to properly ascertain which specific components are utilized
on this alleged "Lance Armstrong/Montgomery-Subaru" historical unit;
remembers the "The parts are basically what I had laying around"
comment? why doesn't he know what components they are or, disassemble
the components to determine what the part ase if he's such an
authority? seems like more evidence of his attempting to run one scam
or another
11) "and some sort of black non-Campy ring."
how many vagaries can he get away with while attempting to pass off
this questionable bike as being a noteworthy piece?
12) "The pedals are either"; "I had a set of titanium pedals and they
are either on this bike or another bike"
meaning they could be anything, and, more evidence of this bike being
nothing but a frame with cobbled together parts that have no relevance
to the "Lance Armstrong/Montgomery-Subaru" units he is trying to make
it out to be
13) "so be aware of that"
through my years of dealing with this inept scammer and malicious
internet TROLL, he has never failed to grossly misrepresent anything
associated with himself; consider the five words quoted immediately
above as your main focus when considering everything having to do with
this liar and thief
14) "the front derailleur does NOT have a lever since it would have
been used mostly to guide the chain. Sorry, but I don't know offhand
where the other lever is at."
huh???? there's a derailleur on the bike but it wouldn't be used for
any reason but to guide the chain, but, there was a lever to operate
the derailleur and he doesn't have it????? why would a bike have the
added weight of an unused derailleur and lever assembly affixed to it
when saving weight is a critical design element?
15) "I am not sure what tubing was used", and, "as we all know the
lore"
sounds like more typical obfuscation regarding this questionable
ratbike
16) "It does seem to be a surprisingly stout frame, however"
sure, but do you want to take the word of some dolt who knows nothing
about the complete bike or various critical components on it except
what he can visually see?
17) "when it was repainted it was aligned and pronounced in good
shape."
exactly why was this repainted and precisely who "pronounced it in good
shape"? the clueless dolt passing this off as something it is not? was
there a critical need to have it aligned or, if it were truly aligned,
was it done by competent and knowledgeable technicians?
18) "I am estimating the shipping cost at $100 to pack and ship in the
continental USA.
gee, the continental US is quite large; it just might cost a bit more
to ship from Jacksonville, Florida to somewhere in Oregon than it would
to somewhere in Georgia
19) "I will have a local bicycle shop do the packing"
with no mention of how much they may charge, and no assurance of how
good of a job they may do, and the possibility that both the shop and
the seller may disagree who is at fault if damage or loss occurs during
shipping, it seems like a recipe for disaster, the previously mentioned
warning of, "so be aware of that", seems in order here
20) "If the bill is less than that the balance will be returned to the
purchaser."
sure it will; all the buyer has to do is pay up front and then expect a
known sweetheart scammer, plagiarist, and malicious internet TROLL who
uses 50+ aliases to harass dozens of people return any shipping fees
not required
BWAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
21) "The frame is pristine and in as nice of a condition as any brand
new frame that I have ever seen at a bicycle shop"
but... it's been repainted for an unspecified reason and it has
allegedly been aligned for an unspecified reason and by unspecified
individuals; I'm sure this frame looks just as nice as any Schwinn,
Huffy, or other common bike found in some nondescript "bicycle shop"
22) "However, no warranties meant or implied, your mileage may vary,
etc., etc."
I guess after all that pedigree ******** was stated the seller had to
include a different version of his, "so be aware of that", disclaimer
23) "This is, after all, a used team bicycle"
with how much abuse and subsequent repairs, 'bondo', incorrect paint
and incorrect decals or other cover-ups applied to it?
24) "even if it is an extremely exotic bicycle with a VERY interesting
pedigree"
claimed by a seller known to ********, lie, and utilize 50+ aliases
while harassing dozens of netizens in every discussion forum he has
soiled by his presence; there is no mention of certification or proof
of provenance regarding this cobbled together ratbike being anything
more than what the seller wishes to pass it off as, not what it truly
may be, which, considering the sales pitch, is very, very questionable
at best; at worst, well, that's for the buyer to find out...
"so be aware of that"
BWAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BWAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BWAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
F
My name is William Bill Cmelak. I am a fat and stupid shithead. I have
been stalking another guy for almost three years because I am jealous
of him and because he hurt my widdle feelings over three years ago and
I just cannot get over the pain. I live in an old mobile home here:
William Cmelak
N9340 Pickerel Creek Rd
Pearson, WI 54462-8140
I drive a 25 year old military truck because that's all that I can
afford. I flunked out of trade school. I spend all of my time at my
computer using an old dial up connection. The rest of the time I watch
television 24/7. No one will give me the respect that I think that I
deserve.
Two years ago I was approached by an old woman named Karen Anderson who
talked me into helping her stalk and troll this guy. She had had a
crush on him and he kicked her to the curb. She drove to his town and
followed him around for two days without him knowing it. She is also
jealous of him. Anderson has stalked several other men before.
She lives at:
Karen Anderson
3590 Narrows View Lane NE #102
Bremerton, WA 98310
Anderson and I are both addicted to stalking. We know that what we do
is wrong, and we see this other guy kick our asses all the time, but we
just don't have the willpower to stop.
I am so jealous, jealous, JEALOUS of that guy that it makes me want to
BURST. I spend all of my time researching what he does, where he
lives. Hell, I even follow his eBay account.
This dude that I hate is popular in his town and community and I HATE
that. So I make up **** about him and his girlfriend and post it to
newsgroups and generally make a nusiance out of myself. Most of what I
make up is a complete figment of my imagination but if I repeat my lies
often enough maybe someone will believe them.
This guy just drives me CRAZY. He's president of a motorcycle club,
he's involved with several charities. Everyone that meets him seems to
like him. I am so damned jealous that I cannot stand it.
Did I mention that I am jealous?
He lives in a warm climate, and I am stuck in the sticks of Wisconsin,
barely able to afford heating oil.
He travels all the time and I haven't been out of Wisconsin in years.
He is active, and my health issues keep me from leaving the house.
He motorcycles all over the country and into Mexico and I cannot ride
any more. I hate that. And I hate those damned Mexicans, even though
that doesn't make me a racist because I said so.
This guy makes more money than I do and that can't be right. I just
know there's something wrong there.
He has a girlfriend that loves him and takes care of him and I haven't
had a date with a woman for over 10 years. And when he was single he
got laid all of the time. Now that's not right either.
What can I possibly do? I am so unhappy.
been stalking another guy for almost three years because I am jealous
of him and because he hurt my widdle feelings over three years ago and
I just cannot get over the pain. I live in an old mobile home here:
William Cmelak
N9340 Pickerel Creek Rd
Pearson, WI 54462-8140
I drive a 25 year old military truck because that's all that I can
afford. I flunked out of trade school. I spend all of my time at my
computer using an old dial up connection. The rest of the time I watch
television 24/7. No one will give me the respect that I think that I
deserve.
Two years ago I was approached by an old woman named Karen Anderson who
talked me into helping her stalk and troll this guy. She had had a
crush on him and he kicked her to the curb. She drove to his town and
followed him around for two days without him knowing it. She is also
jealous of him. Anderson has stalked several other men before.
She lives at:
Karen Anderson
3590 Narrows View Lane NE #102
Bremerton, WA 98310
Anderson and I are both addicted to stalking. We know that what we do
is wrong, and we see this other guy kick our asses all the time, but we
just don't have the willpower to stop.
I am so jealous, jealous, JEALOUS of that guy that it makes me want to
BURST. I spend all of my time researching what he does, where he
lives. Hell, I even follow his eBay account.
This dude that I hate is popular in his town and community and I HATE
that. So I make up **** about him and his girlfriend and post it to
newsgroups and generally make a nusiance out of myself. Most of what I
make up is a complete figment of my imagination but if I repeat my lies
often enough maybe someone will believe them.
This guy just drives me CRAZY. He's president of a motorcycle club,
he's involved with several charities. Everyone that meets him seems to
like him. I am so damned jealous that I cannot stand it.
Did I mention that I am jealous?
He lives in a warm climate, and I am stuck in the sticks of Wisconsin,
barely able to afford heating oil.
He travels all the time and I haven't been out of Wisconsin in years.
He is active, and my health issues keep me from leaving the house.
He motorcycles all over the country and into Mexico and I cannot ride
any more. I hate that. And I hate those damned Mexicans, even though
that doesn't make me a racist because I said so.
This guy makes more money than I do and that can't be right. I just
know there's something wrong there.
He has a girlfriend that loves him and takes care of him and I haven't
had a date with a woman for over 10 years. And when he was single he
got laid all of the time. Now that's not right either.
What can I possibly do? I am so unhappy.
S
SSS333
Guest
Anyone thinking of buying the cobbled together **** being passed off as
a Lance Armstrong training bike really should consider the following:
1) the TROLL alias used to transmit the content of the quoted message
below: [email protected]
2) the initial spam-like posting of the bike's eBay link via another of
the TROLL's aliases: [email protected]
3) and then verify that both of the TROLL aliases are among the list
below which shows just some of the 50+ chickenshit aliases used by the
asshole selling the bike to transmit spam and internet abuse
4) the location of the eBay seller which just happens to be
Jacksonville, Florida, and, their eBay identity, matanzastrading,
which, no big surprise, is the same as another alias used by this puke:
[email protected]
All of the content presented immediately below is factual and
verifiable by you.
Do you really want to buy ANYTHING from a malicious spammer and
internet TROLL such as him?
Hopefully, someone at Moffitt Corporation, 1351 13th Avenue South,
Suite 130, Jacksonville Beach, FL 32250, http://www.moffitthvac.com,
was doing something constructive while concurrently, Pirate John
Wesley Gilmer III (aka, [email protected], [email protected]
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected] or any of the
following in this partial list of additional known aliases:
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
bresner@eatmyshorts, [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
which are all associated with http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/,
http://www.BuccaneerPress.com, http://www.PirateJohn.com,
http://www.RidingIntoHistory.org,
http://groups.google.com/group/jimmy_buffett-moderated, as well the
Atlantic Beach Vintage Motorcycle Club http://www.ABVMC.com for which
Pirate John Wesley Gilmer III boasts of being its "el presidente") who
resides at 12526 Agatite Road, Jacksonville, Florida 32258 while
sweetheart scamming the house's alleged owner Deborah Lynch (aka,
[email protected] of http://www.deblynchrealtor.com) who is not
worried about her privacy as stated in usenet "Message-ID:
<[email protected]>" and instructed
him to "give the jackasses both barrels", posted the following via one
of his 50+ aliases...
[email protected] wrote:
From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.racing
Subject: Some pretty clueless troll bait, wouldn't you agree? was Re:
Masi Record low-pro time trial bike on eBay
Date: 18 Jan 2007 18:51:50 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lines: 89
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
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Mime-Version: 1.0
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> My name is William Bill Cmelak. I am a fat and stupid shithead. I have
> been stalking another guy for almost three years because I am jealous
> of him and because he hurt my widdle feelings over three years ago and
> I just cannot get over the pain. I live in an old mobile home here:
>
> William Cmelak
> N9340 Pickerel Creek Rd
> Pearson, WI 54462-8140
>
>
> I drive a 25 year old military truck because that's all that I can
> afford. I flunked out of trade school. I spend all of my time at my
> computer using an old dial up connection. The rest of the time I watch
>
> television 24/7. No one will give me the respect that I think that I
> deserve.
>
>
> Two years ago I was approached by an old woman named Karen Anderson who
>
> talked me into helping her stalk and troll this guy. She had had a
> crush on him and he kicked her to the curb. She drove to his town and
> followed him around for two days without him knowing it. She is also
> jealous of him. Anderson has stalked several other men before.
>
>
> She lives at:
>
>
> Karen Anderson
> 3590 Narrows View Lane NE #102
> Bremerton, WA 98310
>
>
> Anderson and I are both addicted to stalking. We know that what we do
> is wrong, and we see this other guy kick our asses all the time, but we
>
> just don't have the willpower to stop.
>
>
> I am so jealous, jealous, JEALOUS of that guy that it makes me want to
> BURST. I spend all of my time researching what he does, where he
> lives. Hell, I even follow his eBay account.
>
>
> This dude that I hate is popular in his town and community and I HATE
> that. So I make up **** about him and his girlfriend and post it to
> newsgroups and generally make a nusiance out of myself. Most of what I
>
> make up is a complete figment of my imagination but if I repeat my lies
>
> often enough maybe someone will believe them.
>
>
> This guy just drives me CRAZY. He's president of a motorcycle club,
> he's involved with several charities. Everyone that meets him seems to
>
> like him. I am so damned jealous that I cannot stand it.
>
>
> Did I mention that I am jealous?
>
>
> He lives in a warm climate, and I am stuck in the sticks of Wisconsin,
> barely able to afford heating oil.
>
>
> He travels all the time and I haven't been out of Wisconsin in years.
>
>
> He is active, and my health issues keep me from leaving the house.
>
>
> He motorcycles all over the country and into Mexico and I cannot ride
> any more. I hate that. And I hate those damned Mexicans, even though
> that doesn't make me a racist because I said so.
>
>
> This guy makes more money than I do and that can't be right. I just
> know there's something wrong there.
>
>
> He has a girlfriend that loves him and takes care of him and I haven't
> had a date with a woman for over 10 years. And when he was single he
> got laid all of the time. Now that's not right either.
>
>
> What can I possibly do? I am so unhappy.
a Lance Armstrong training bike really should consider the following:
1) the TROLL alias used to transmit the content of the quoted message
below: [email protected]
2) the initial spam-like posting of the bike's eBay link via another of
the TROLL's aliases: [email protected]
3) and then verify that both of the TROLL aliases are among the list
below which shows just some of the 50+ chickenshit aliases used by the
asshole selling the bike to transmit spam and internet abuse
4) the location of the eBay seller which just happens to be
Jacksonville, Florida, and, their eBay identity, matanzastrading,
which, no big surprise, is the same as another alias used by this puke:
[email protected]
All of the content presented immediately below is factual and
verifiable by you.
Do you really want to buy ANYTHING from a malicious spammer and
internet TROLL such as him?
Hopefully, someone at Moffitt Corporation, 1351 13th Avenue South,
Suite 130, Jacksonville Beach, FL 32250, http://www.moffitthvac.com,
was doing something constructive while concurrently, Pirate John
Wesley Gilmer III (aka, [email protected], [email protected]
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected] or any of the
following in this partial list of additional known aliases:
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
bresner@eatmyshorts, [email protected], [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected],
which are all associated with http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/,
http://www.BuccaneerPress.com, http://www.PirateJohn.com,
http://www.RidingIntoHistory.org,
http://groups.google.com/group/jimmy_buffett-moderated, as well the
Atlantic Beach Vintage Motorcycle Club http://www.ABVMC.com for which
Pirate John Wesley Gilmer III boasts of being its "el presidente") who
resides at 12526 Agatite Road, Jacksonville, Florida 32258 while
sweetheart scamming the house's alleged owner Deborah Lynch (aka,
[email protected] of http://www.deblynchrealtor.com) who is not
worried about her privacy as stated in usenet "Message-ID:
<[email protected]>" and instructed
him to "give the jackasses both barrels", posted the following via one
of his 50+ aliases...
[email protected] wrote:
From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.racing
Subject: Some pretty clueless troll bait, wouldn't you agree? was Re:
Masi Record low-pro time trial bike on eBay
Date: 18 Jan 2007 18:51:50 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lines: 89
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.199.238.125
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1169175126 2632 127.0.0.1 (19 Jan 2007
02:52:06 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: [email protected]
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 02:52:06 +0000 (UTC)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
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> My name is William Bill Cmelak. I am a fat and stupid shithead. I have
> been stalking another guy for almost three years because I am jealous
> of him and because he hurt my widdle feelings over three years ago and
> I just cannot get over the pain. I live in an old mobile home here:
>
> William Cmelak
> N9340 Pickerel Creek Rd
> Pearson, WI 54462-8140
>
>
> I drive a 25 year old military truck because that's all that I can
> afford. I flunked out of trade school. I spend all of my time at my
> computer using an old dial up connection. The rest of the time I watch
>
> television 24/7. No one will give me the respect that I think that I
> deserve.
>
>
> Two years ago I was approached by an old woman named Karen Anderson who
>
> talked me into helping her stalk and troll this guy. She had had a
> crush on him and he kicked her to the curb. She drove to his town and
> followed him around for two days without him knowing it. She is also
> jealous of him. Anderson has stalked several other men before.
>
>
> She lives at:
>
>
> Karen Anderson
> 3590 Narrows View Lane NE #102
> Bremerton, WA 98310
>
>
> Anderson and I are both addicted to stalking. We know that what we do
> is wrong, and we see this other guy kick our asses all the time, but we
>
> just don't have the willpower to stop.
>
>
> I am so jealous, jealous, JEALOUS of that guy that it makes me want to
> BURST. I spend all of my time researching what he does, where he
> lives. Hell, I even follow his eBay account.
>
>
> This dude that I hate is popular in his town and community and I HATE
> that. So I make up **** about him and his girlfriend and post it to
> newsgroups and generally make a nusiance out of myself. Most of what I
>
> make up is a complete figment of my imagination but if I repeat my lies
>
> often enough maybe someone will believe them.
>
>
> This guy just drives me CRAZY. He's president of a motorcycle club,
> he's involved with several charities. Everyone that meets him seems to
>
> like him. I am so damned jealous that I cannot stand it.
>
>
> Did I mention that I am jealous?
>
>
> He lives in a warm climate, and I am stuck in the sticks of Wisconsin,
> barely able to afford heating oil.
>
>
> He travels all the time and I haven't been out of Wisconsin in years.
>
>
> He is active, and my health issues keep me from leaving the house.
>
>
> He motorcycles all over the country and into Mexico and I cannot ride
> any more. I hate that. And I hate those damned Mexicans, even though
> that doesn't make me a racist because I said so.
>
>
> This guy makes more money than I do and that can't be right. I just
> know there's something wrong there.
>
>
> He has a girlfriend that loves him and takes care of him and I haven't
> had a date with a woman for over 10 years. And when he was single he
> got laid all of the time. Now that's not right either.
>
>
> What can I possibly do? I am so unhappy.
