On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:42:13 GMT, "Mark" <
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.."Shaun aRe" <
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..> "Just zis Guy, you know?" <
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..> > On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:41:08 +0100, "Shaun aRe"
..> > <
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..> > >> Am I reading this right? Mike is saying that mountain bikes
..contribute
..> to
..> > >> global warming! How? Do bike riders fart more than everybody else?
..> >
..> > >Manufacture of plastics, rubber, refined oils and greases, the smelting
..> of
..> > >steel and aluminium, etc. etc. etc. Sorry Jeff, but ya gotta accept
..that
..> > >much.
..> >
..> > Yes, it's another example of Mike employing the "insignificant cause"
..> > logical fallacy.
..>
..> I wouldn't deny it, but too many people make the mistake of dismissing the
..> actual fact itself, rather than its relevance to the argument at hand, and
..> of course, MV just loves that, makes him feel 'right' LMFAO!
..>
..>
..> Cheers JZG!
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..>
..>
..> Shaun aRe
..>
..The whole principal of his argument relies more or less completely that
..people will just deny any harm comes from biking, bike manufacture or
..transport to trails instead of actually reading through his hypothesis and
..commenting on that.
..When people deny, they are wrong, no doubts, and as you say, he is very
..vocal about the fact.
..
..However, anyone with a modicum of education and understanding of language
..who bother to dig a little into the reasoning behind Mr Vandermans theories
..can easily pick huge holes in the argument,
It hasn't happened YET. It must not be so easy....
sadly all he seems to be able to
..respond with is juvenile attempts to steer the discussion away from those
..holes and towards the personal attacks he seems to enjoy so much.
..
..Its quite sad really as the base cause he tries to represent is a worthwhile
..one, but his object of aggression is entirely the wrong target.
..While industry is pumping out pollution at the rate it is, and deforestation
..and urban expansion also continue unabated, the damage caused by Bikes, or
..indeed hikers or horses or other leisure acitivities is largely irrelevant,
BS. ALL damage is significant. You are just rationalizing. One thing has NOTHING
to do with the other.
..mainly because those trails and surrounding environment will be destroyed
..regardless of anything done by the leisure activities we enjoy.
..With China proposing 800 new (and not environmentally efficient) power
..stations to be brought online within the next 10 years, the failure by the
..US and others to ratify the kyoto protocol and the continued deforestation
..within the rain forest regions of the world, things are not going to improve
..any time soon.
..
..But what do I know, Im a mountain biker, the ecological devil apparently.
..
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