Nice to meet you (Tim, GPLlama)



Rory Williams

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Went up the BR course yesterday morning for my second try. Was passed by TimC on Elgar Rd on the way there then caught up with him and GPLlama at Smiths Gully. I cut through Panton Hill.

Nice to meet you (Llama) and catch up with Tim (we met on a FR back at Easter), Thanks for waiting at Wattle Glen, but I just don't presently have the legs (or the nerve any more at that speed) to hold the wheel. Ended up getting a little geographically embarrased between Greensborough and Heidelburg but found my way through then back south through Bulleen. I was running out of legs and cramping a fair bit from Diamond Ck on.

104km for the morning, which is probably a bit more than I bargained for, but it was very nice up there.

See you out there again sometime.

RoryW
 
Good to see a new face out and about on the BR! Hopefully we'll see increasing numbers now the tour is over and the summer months are approaching.

FWIW - The BR would be excellent ATB training for those who want to leave the flatlanders for dead on the hilly bits. Given all the new bunches out this weekend, I think we could get a 20+ group BRing.. if they can handle the pain! ;)

cheers,
GPL
 
On 2006-07-31, gplama (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>
> Good to see a new face out and about on the BR! Hopefully we'll see
> increasing numbers now the tour is over and the summer months are
> approaching.
>
> FWIW - The BR would be excellent ATB training for those who want to
> leave the flatlanders for dead on the hilly bits. Given all the new
> bunches out this weekend, I think we could get a 20+ group BRing.. if
> they can handle the pain! ;)


Hold on, we never did catch up to that bunch that passed us while we
were stopped.

I hope to have some legs back just in time to leave :/

--
TimC
mathematician, n.:
Some one who believes imaginary things appear right before your i's. --unk
 
TimC said:
Hold on, we never did catch up to that bunch that passed us while we
were stopped.

They came past me a bit after Cottle's Bridge, Australian/Italian cycle club Jerseys in amoungst them and moving well.

RoryW
 
What order of pain are we talking:

"golly that hurts"

or

debilitating, leg burning, lung busting agony?

(ave spd? / distance etc may also help)



"gplama" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Good to see a new face out and about on the BR! Hopefully we'll see
> increasing numbers now the tour is over and the summer months are
> approaching.
>
> FWIW - The BR would be excellent ATB training for those who want to
> leave the flatlanders for dead on the hilly bits. Given all the new
> bunches out this weekend, I think we could get a 20+ group BRing.. if
> they can handle the pain! ;)
>
> cheers,
> GPL
>
>
> --
> gplama
>
 
jim wrote:
> What order of pain are we talking:
>
> "golly that hurts"
>
> or
>
> debilitating, leg burning, lung busting agony?


It's up to you. There's ample opportunity to smash yourself up hills,
but there's also meet points at the top of those hills to re-group so
just going for the "golly that hurts" level doesn't mean you'll be left
behind (as I will safely vouch).

>
> (ave spd? / distance etc may also help)
>


Actually avg speed and distance may not help as the hills skew these
measurements. My stats are usually around 70km at 24kmh (on Beach Rd I'd
have no trouble holding 30kmh on my own), but the stronger riders would
have around 90km at 30kmh-ish.

DaveB
 
kick-off and location?


"DaveB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> jim wrote:
>> What order of pain are we talking:
>>
>> "golly that hurts"
>>
>> or
>>
>> debilitating, leg burning, lung busting agony?

>
> It's up to you. There's ample opportunity to smash yourself up hills, but
> there's also meet points at the top of those hills to re-group so just
> going for the "golly that hurts" level doesn't mean you'll be left behind
> (as I will safely vouch).
>
>>
>> (ave spd? / distance etc may also help)
>>

>
> Actually avg speed and distance may not help as the hills skew these
> measurements. My stats are usually around 70km at 24kmh (on Beach Rd I'd
> have no trouble holding 30kmh on my own), but the stronger riders would
> have around 90km at 30kmh-ish.
>
> DaveB
 
kick-off and location?


"DaveB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> jim wrote:
>> What order of pain are we talking:
>>
>> "golly that hurts"
>>
>> or
>>
>> debilitating, leg burning, lung busting agony?

>
> It's up to you. There's ample opportunity to smash yourself up hills, but
> there's also meet points at the top of those hills to re-group so just
> going for the "golly that hurts" level doesn't mean you'll be left behind
> (as I will safely vouch).
>
>>
>> (ave spd? / distance etc may also help)
>>

>
> Actually avg speed and distance may not help as the hills skew these
> measurements. My stats are usually around 70km at 24kmh (on Beach Rd I'd
> have no trouble holding 30kmh on my own), but the stronger riders would
> have around 90km at 30kmh-ish.
>
> DaveB
 
gplama wrote:
> Good to see a new face out and about on the BR! Hopefully we'll see
> increasing numbers now the tour is over and the summer months are
> approaching.
>

Yep - I fit into that category! Finished directing the school
production of Macbeth on the weekend, so I'll have weekends free from
now. 'bout freakin' time. Getting fat as butter and want to get on bike
more.
 
gplama wrote:
> Good to see a new face out and about on the BR! Hopefully we'll see
> increasing numbers now the tour is over and the summer months are
> approaching.
>

Yep - I fit into that category! Finished directing the school
production of Macbeth on the weekend, so I'll have weekends free from
now. 'bout freakin' time. Getting fat as butter and want to get on bike
more.
 
after progressively getting slower over recent months i did the unthinkable and went ***** Rd, Olivers Hill return.
The idea was a nice long slow fat burner, but do ya reckon i could resist temptation?
cruising down, then 2 guys fly past as if the bunch i was with were standing still. managed to hear em coming and timed perfectly to spot em and jump on. doing 50+ for 10K+ and rather panting after that. got up Olivers Hill (you mean i gotta do that on the fixie in ATB!!!) then grovelled back into horrible headwind for most of way back and then totally smash meself when jumping on back of another quick group of a dozen doing rolling turns thru the Col de Mentone region. Luckily the gals' fundraising snakes were in the pocket so mangaed to grovel home on the fumes of sugar.

would seem the sight of a rise in front can still stop ***** rd riders without even having reached it :rolleyes:
did my confidence wonders.
Now back to BR's to make it plummet again :p
 
flyingdutch wrote:

> after progressively getting slower over recent months i did the
> unthinkable and went ***** Rd, Olivers Hill return.
> The idea was a nice long slow fat burner, but do ya reckon i could
> resist temptation?

snip
> would seem the sight of a rise in front can still stop ***** rd riders
> without even having reached it :rolleyes:
> did my confidence wonders.
> Now back to BR's to make it plummet again :p
>


Yeh, looking forward to huffing and puffing along behind everybody I
used to - cough! - keep up with. I'll be out this Sunday to just do it
for the first time in... months, I s'pose... rather than go hard...
Saying that usually means someone's going to go for a pb up the big up,
but I certainly mean it. Think I'll even ease off on the TTT to avoid
the embarressment of being dropped by that skinny ******* (you know who
you are).
 
jim wrote:

> What order of pain are we talking:
>
> "golly that hurts"
>
> or
>
> debilitating, leg burning, lung busting agony?
>
> (ave spd? / distance etc may also help)


All depends on your fitness level. Because of wait points, usually at
the top of hills or fast sections, the average speeds vary a lot. The
distance, for me who lives in the CBD, is about 100km, but there are
_lots_ of bail points and alternatives that hook you back up with the
group after cutting up to 15k from the ride at a time. Some regularly
take easier and/or shorter options if feeling dodge or they just want
to cruise. At one point we let slower or less mcho guys go up to five
minutes early after coffee so the nutbags can go hard.
The bigger hills are as hard as you make them. Worst you have to do is
5.8k and about 3 percent. That's quite deceiving, though, as it rolls a
lot at the top, lessening the average gradient by a whole lot. Almost
everything else is negotiable.
Tim C's 'Bikely' route is a good description if you want more info.
Hope to see you out there.
 
blah wrote:
> flyingdutch wrote:
>> Now back to BR's to make it plummet again :p
>>

>
> Yeh, looking forward to huffing and puffing along behind everybody I
> used to - cough! - keep up with. I'll be out this Sunday to just do it
> for the first time in... months, I s'pose... rather than go hard...
> Saying that usually means someone's going to go for a pb up the big up,
> but I certainly mean it. Think I'll even ease off on the TTT to avoid
> the embarressment of being dropped by that skinny ******* (you know who
> you are).
>


Sounds like I may have some company at the back of the pack this
weekend. Then again, I have heard that kind of sandbagging before.

DaveB
 
jim said:
What order of pain are we talking:

"golly that hurts"

or

debilitating, leg burning, lung busting agony?

(ave spd? / distance etc may also help)


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It's well worth having a go

My essentially solo ride over the course starting from Home in Hughesdale on Sunday was 104km at 23.6, about 18:30 from the climb to Kangaroo Grnd I went straight from Kangaroo Grnd to St Andrews missing the bit down to Watsons creek then cut home frm Heidelburg missing the Burgandy st Hill.

I'm now just a weekend warrior doing what I can when I can. My last five Sundays have been the BR course, some solo dirt road work in the Flowerdale / Strath Creek area, a tandem ride with the children, and a trip down Beech rd, and my first BR.

My second BR run was about one km/hr quicker than my first - although I went 20k further/was out there for most of an extra hour the second time. I haven't been a good descender for some time since I had a case of the speed wobbles and there are clearly a lot of advantages on the BR course of being able to get sepped on the downs and carry it through the dips into the ups on the undulating sections, or places like past that Christian school in Donvale. Knowing more about the course will give me the confidence to do this. I had a fair few missed turns and double-backs on Sunday as well that bring the average down. I'll try to get up there when I can, it's a great course and well worth the effort.

For me its still a "Oh that hurts" type of thing - really because I can't push myself into the dehabilitating efforts any longer.

RoryW