Police learn lessons...

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:48:33 -0000,

Colin Blackburn said:

This article from the BBC, headlined, "Police chiefs
defend bike courses", explains that officers from several
forces are going on bike courses to learn cycling
techniques for their job as cycling officers.

news.bbc.co.uk3512772.stmOpen ↗

What puzzled me was the word 'defend' in the headline and
the tone of the piece which seems to suggest someone has
criticised the police for this but no mention is made of
any criticism.

Presumably people might complain about the cost aspects.

I do like the sound of the "extreme cycling techniques"
whatever they may be.

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Colin Blackburn said:

This article from the BBC, headlined, "Police chiefs
defend bike courses", explains that officers from several
forces are going on bike courses to learn cycling
techniques for their job as cycling officers.

news.bbc.co.uk3512772.stmOpen ↗

What puzzled me was the word 'defend' in the headline and
the tone of the piece which seems to suggest someone has
criticised the police for this but no mention is made of
any criticism.

The article in the Daily Mail [1] had quotes criticising it
on grounds of cost.

[1] I buy it for the mindless right-wing demagoguery.

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beer.

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 15:45:02 +0000, Keith Willoughby <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Colin Blackburn said:

This article from the BBC, headlined, "Police chiefs
defend bike courses", explains that officers from several
forces are going on bike courses to learn cycling
techniques for their job as cycling officers.

news.bbc.co.uk3512772.stmOpen ↗

What puzzled me was the word 'defend' in the headline and
the tone of the piece which seems to suggest someone has
criticised the police for this but no mention is made of
any criticism.

The article in the Daily Mail [1] had quotes criticising
it on grounds of cost.

I guessed it had been criticised somewhere and probably for
cost reasons just curious as to why the BBC ran with the
defence tone without citing the criticism.

Soon they (whoever they are) will be expecting the police
to not be trained at all in anything. I take it the
criticism was implying that all they are being tought is
"how to ride a bike"?

Quoted message said:

[1] I buy it for the mindless right-wing demagoguery.

It's what it does best.

Colin
--

In article <[email hidden]>,

Keith Willoughby said:

[1] I buy it for the mindless right-wing demagoguery.

Triumph of the Willoughby, clearly.

ian

<Colin Blackburn> wrote: [Daily Mail on police bike
training]

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Soon they (whoever they are) will be expecting the police
to not be trained at all in anything. I take it the
criticism was implying that all they are being tought is
"how to ride a bike"?

IIRC, the tone was "In the olden days, people knew how to
ride a bike. They didn't need expensive touchy-feely so-
called training, especially from filthy foreigners. It's a
sad indictment of society that we blame on illegal
immigrants". I could be mixing up a couple of stories
there, though.

--
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Keith Willoughby said:

IIRC, the tone was "In the olden days, people knew how to
ride a bike. They didn't need expensive touchy-feely so-
called training, especially from filthy foreigners. It's a
sad indictment of society that we blame on illegal
immigrants". I could be mixing up a couple of stories
there, though.

"Illegal immigrants"? That's very un-PC, they're called
"Failed asylum seekers" now, AFAICT.

Pete.
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Ian G Batten said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Keith

Willoughby said:

[1] I buy it for the mindless right-wing demagoguery.

Triumph of the Willoughby, clearly.

Oh, I say! Well done.

--
Keith Willoughby flat222.orgkeithOpen ↗ Twll Dyn Pob Saes

In article <[email hidden]>,

Peter Clinch said:

Keith Willoughby said:

IIRC, the tone was "In the olden days, people knew how
to ride a bike. They didn't need expensive touchy-feely
so-called training, especially from filthy foreigners.
It's a sad indictment of society that we blame on
illegal immigrants". I could be mixing up a couple of
stories there, though.

"Illegal immigrants"? That's very un-PC, they're called
"Failed asylum seekers" now, AFAICT.

There's a superb spoof on the back page of The New Yorker
last week. It has a set of questions from the producers to
Mel Gibson, about his new production. Suggesting titles like
Lethal Passion, for example. But also pointing out typos:
``There appears to be a space missing between Jew and Boy on
page 48.''

ian

Colin Blackburn said:

This article from the BBC, headlined, "Police chiefs
defend bike courses", explains that officers from several
forces are going on bike courses to learn cycling
techniques for their job as cycling officers.

news.bbc.co.uk3512772.stmOpen ↗

What puzzled me was the word 'defend' in the headline and
the tone of the piece which seems to suggest someone has
criticised the police for this but no mention is made of
any criticism.

Colin
--

I saw some officers riding Smith & Wesson Tactical mountain
bikes the other week. They probably throw them at the
criminals instead of shooting them. ;-)
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wonderful evening. But this wasn't
it." -Groucho Marx www.macclancy.demon.co.uk
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Andy Leighton <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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I do like the sound of the "extreme cycling techniques"
whatever they may be.

I would guess they would include things like arrest
techniques while cycling.

--
Dave...

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Colin Blackburn said:

This article from the BBC, headlined, "Police chiefs
defend bike

courses",

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explains that officers from several forces are going on
bike courses to learn cycling techniques for their job
as cycling officers.

news.bbc.co.uk35127Open ↗
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What puzzled me was the word 'defend' in the headline
and the tone of

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

piece which seems to suggest someone has criticised the
police for this but no mention is made of any criticism.

Colin
--

I saw some officers riding Smith & Wesson Tactical
mountain bikes the

other

Quoted message said:

week. They probably throw them at the criminals instead of
shooting them. ;-)
--
Michael MacClancy

...and I guess when the going gets 'real tough', they'll
invest in the Hummer MTB ;-) (no, I'm not kidding. They're
600quid, invisible to radar, robust enough for 'behind enemy
lines', totally silent and don't produce heat, so can't be
picked up by IR detectors - don't know about the trooper
pedalling hell for leather carrying 250lbs of kit on his
back though ;-)...also, they're foldable in 30secs, so ideal
for the multi-transport mode commute.)

Dave.

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 16:00:05 +0000 someone who may be Keith
Willoughby <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

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I could be mixing up a couple of stories there, though.

I think it only has one story, which is varied to suit the
article concerned.

The story is essentially that everything is going wrong and
what is needed is a nice dose of stringent measures to
restore the good old days.

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"Colin Blackburn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

This article from the BBC, headlined, "Police chiefs
defend bike courses", explains that officers from several
forces are going on bike courses to learn cycling
techniques for their job as cycling officers.

news.bbc.co.uk3512772.stmOpen ↗

What puzzled me was the word 'defend' in the headline and
the tone of the piece which seems to suggest someone has
criticised the police for this but no mention is made of
any criticism.

Well I don't know... is it really as effective as it is
claimed - will it help the police do a better job? I guess
it's true that it will make them more approachable than if
they were riding in a car, but I'm still somewhat
doubtful. It would be interesting to have a policeman's
perspective on this.

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Akin

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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:48:33 -0000, "Colin Blackburn"
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<[email hidden]>:

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What puzzled me was the word 'defend' in the headline and
the tone of the piece which seems to suggest someone has
criticised the police for this but no mention is made of
any criticism.

Obviously. As we all know, all they need to do is wear their
Magic Hats and they will become invulnerable.

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Sky Fly said:

"Colin Blackburn" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

This article from the BBC, headlined, "Police chiefs
defend bike courses", explains that officers from several
forces are going on bike courses to learn cycling
techniques for their job as cycling officers.

news.bbc.co.uk3512772.stmOpen ↗

What puzzled me was the word 'defend' in the headline and
the tone of the piece which seems to suggest someone has
criticised the police for this but no mention is made of
any criticism.

Well I don't know... is it really as effective as it is
claimed - will it help the police do a better job?

I'd have thought it'd be very handy for the average
beat bobby. They can get about a lot quicker if
something happens, but they're still easy for the
public to get hold of.

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Presumably people might complain about the cost aspects.

I do like the sound of the "extreme cycling techniques"
whatever they may be.

I know this one. It's hanging on and screaming whilst going
down big hills on my Marin.

John

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:07:19 -0000, "Sky Fly" <[email hidden]>

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"Colin Blackburn" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

This article from the BBC, headlined, "Police chiefs
defend bike courses", explains that officers from several
forces are going on bike courses to learn cycling
techniques for their job as cycling officers.

news.bbc.co.uk3512772.stmOpen ↗

What puzzled me was the word 'defend' in the headline and
the tone of the piece which seems to suggest someone has
criticised the police for this but no mention is made of
any criticism.

Well I don't know... is it really as effective as it is
claimed - will it help the police do a better job? I guess
it's true that it will make them more approachable than if
they were riding in a car, but I'm still somewhat doubtful.

Probably work quite well in heavily pedestrianised areas
such as Birmingham town center. Can't chase someone in a car
round there.
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:48:33 -0000, "Colin Blackburn"
<[email hidden]> wrote (more or less):

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I've sent a complaint to their web-site, via their
feedback link.:
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"Your article "Police chiefs defend bike courses" doesn't
actually say who you feel the police have to defend
themselves from.

Perhaps you feel that everyone should just naturally attack
the police any time they train themselves to use the
equipment they are issued with?

I look forward to your next article "BBC journalism chiefs
defend word-processor training courses".

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[email hidden] (Dave Kahn) wrote in
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I would guess they would include things like arrest
techniques while cycling.

Method 1 -

Step 1: Approach the suspect at high speed and start to
freewheel. Step 2: Whilst balancing carefully, climb up
until you are standing on the saddle. Step 3: On nearing the
suspect, launch yourself in a high altitude rugby style
tackle, whilst announcing "You're nicked sunshine!"

Method 2 - Step 1: Run the suspect over from behind and
whilst he is incapacitated announce "You're nicked
sunshine!"

Any others?

:-)

Graeme