[email hidden] (Dave Kahn) wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:
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I would guess they would include things like arrest techniques while cycling.
Method 1 -
Step 1: Approach the suspect at high speed and start to freewheel. Step 2: Whilst balancing carefully, climb up until you are standing on the saddle. Step 3: On nearing the suspect, launch yourself in a high altitude rugby style tackle, whilst announcing "You're nicked sunshine!"
Method 2 - Step 1: Run the suspect over from behind and whilst he is incapacitated announce "You're nicked sunshine!"
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Any others?
Approach at high speed, whip out the baton (oo-errr!) and batter the suspect into unconsciousness whilst speeding past them. Pepper spray usage whilst cycling is contra-indicated due to the possible risk of spray-back.
I liked "People feel they can approach officers easier on bike, it is an obvious deterrent and it is easier to get down places like alleyways where vehicle access is difficult." Presumably they have been influenced by the idiots at Sustrans about what a vehicle is.
Note that I think Sustrans have generally done a good job, but their dismissal of bikes as not being vehicles or part of traffic is idiotic.
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:07:19 -0000 someone who may be "Sky Fly" <[email hidden]> wrote this:-
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Well I don't know... is it really as effective as it is claimed - will it help the police do a better job? I guess it's true that it will make them more approachable than if they were riding in a car, but I'm still somewhat doubtful.
I saw one in York a while ago. He was getting to wherever he was going far faster then he would have done in a car. That is also the case in many built up areas.
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It would be interesting to have a policeman's perspective on this.
There is some sort of association in the USA and may be here. It is not for the serial motorist sort of police officer, but is great for those with broader minds.
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I've sent a complaint to their web-site, via their feedback link.: ====== "Your article "Police chiefs defend bike courses" doesn't actually say who you feel the police have to defend themselves from.
Perhaps you feel that everyone should just naturally attack the police any time they train themselves to use the equipment they are issued with?
I look forward to your next article "BBC journalism chiefs defend word-processor training courses".
LOL, I like it. I too was irritated by the headline followed by content that didn't explain it! Tell us if you get a reply!
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What puzzled me was the word 'defend' in the headline and the tone of the piece which seems to suggest someone has criticised the police for this but no mention is made of any criticism.
I done a feedback thingy to the Beeb asking if the Police were xpected to "defend" Police driver training in the same way.
What puzzled me was the word 'defend' in the headline and the tone of
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piece which seems to suggest someone has criticised the police for this but no mention is made of any criticism.
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I saw some officers riding Smith & Wesson Tactical mountain bikes the
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week. They probably throw them at the criminals instead of shooting them.
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...and I guess when the going gets 'real tough', they'll invest in the Hummer MTB ;-) (no, I'm not kidding. They're 600quid, invisible to radar, robust enough for 'behind enemy lines', totally silent and don't produce heat, so can't be picked up by IR detectors - don't know about the trooper pedalling hell for leather carrying 250lbs of kit on his back though ;-)
Ah yes. That's called Military Intelligence. "This vehicle produces no heat so is invisible to IR."
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...also, they're foldable in 30secs, so ideal for the multi- transport mode commute.)
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Where did this fashion for the makers of SUVs to produce expensive accessory bikes come from? What's the market niche? Those folk who are embarrassed to buy a bike in case someone thought they couldn't afford a car?
It's hardly new. Land Rover had a version of the Moulton APB as their Official Bike for a while, but I imagine it was a bit too weird for many Disco owners to feel they were presenting the Right Image (asserting their rugged individuality by looking a bit like a lot of other people).
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Where did this fashion for the makers of SUVs to produce expensive accessory bikes come from?
It came from The Marketing Department, the same people who extended the 'Fairy' brand from washing up liquid to washing powder and stretched the 'Yamaha' brand from motorbikes into hifi, pianos and sports gear.
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What's the market niche?
Those people who associate the 'Hummer' brand with strength and quality and those people who would like to own the Hummer vehicle but haven't got the garage space or can't afford the gas?
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It came from The Marketing Department, the same people who extended the
The phrase you're looking for is ``brandwidth''.
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'Fairy' brand from washing up liquid to washing powder and stretched the
True.
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'Yamaha' brand from motorbikes into hifi, pianos and sports gear.
Untrue. It was more about moving from pianos to motorbikes: Yamaha started as an organ and piano making. Bearing in mind Yamaha's history I think it's unlikely to have been a marketing decision.
Where did this fashion for the makers of SUVs to produce expensive accessory bikes come from?
It came from The Marketing Department, the same people who extended the 'Fairy' brand from washing up liquid to washing powder
Probably...
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and stretched the 'Yamaha' brand from motorbikes into hifi, pianos and sports gear.
...but surely not. Aren't Yamaha like a lot of large Japanese corporations in have a very wide range of products. The only difference with other Japanese megacorps would seem to be that Yamaha have used the brand name on many of their products rather than using subsidiary names. From knowing musicians Yamaha pianos have certainly been around a long time.
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The article in the Daily Mail [1] had quotes criticising it on grounds of cost.
If an untrained policeman got himself killed on his MTB the Mail would be puffing and blowing in mock outrage at officers' lives being put at risk by penny-pinching cuts. Of course the police need to be trained if they are to use MTBs effectively. Buying a lot of equipment, assigning untrained personnel to use it, and having only a vague notion of what to do with it really is throwing money at a problem. Isn't the Mail supposed to be against the reckless use of public money?
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'Yamaha' brand from motorbikes into hifi, pianos and sports gear.
Untrue. It was more about moving from pianos to motorbikes: Yamaha started as an organ and piano making. Bearing in mind Yamaha's history I think it's unlikely to have been a marketing decision.
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You're right. Organ production started in 1887 and motorbikes in 1954.
In my defence I have to say that it was a marketing text I was reading (on www.tutor2u.net). Only goes to demonstrate that a lot of marketing is b*llsh*t. ;-)
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Isn't the Mail supposed to be against the reckless use of public money?
If they really thought that then they wouldn't charge the public money for their wastepaper...
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Where did this fashion for the makers of SUVs to produce expensive accessory bikes come from?
It came from The Marketing Department, the same people who extended the 'Fairy' brand from washing up liquid to washing powder and stretched the 'Yamaha' brand from motorbikes into hifi, pianos and sports gear.
Wrong way round .. Have you seen the Yamaha logo ? ... Three tuning forks ... 😉
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:29:47 +0000 (UTC), [email hidden] (Chris
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Where did this fashion for the makers of SUVs to produce expensive accessory bikes come from? What's the market niche? Those folk who are embarrassed to buy a bike in case someone thought they couldn't afford a car?
Image. People buy cars like that because they like to believe that they're the 'outdoors' type.
My Dad always used to joke the Range Rover should do stick on mud and a fake Labrador as optional extras.
That said, if I win the lottery tomorrow, I'll be straight out to buy a Mitsubishi L200 Animal pickup :-)
"Ian G Batten" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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'Yamaha' brand from motorbikes into hifi, pianos and sports gear.
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Untrue. It was more about moving from pianos to motorbikes: Yamaha started as an organ and piano making. Bearing in mind Yamaha's history I think it's unlikely to have been a marketing decision.
