Slow roadies

[Euan]

"OzCableguy" <[email protected]> writes:

> "Stuart Lamble" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 2006-02-09, Euan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> My wife's recently scored a very nice (wish it fit me) road bike. With
>>> *much* less effort she can maintain a pace 5km/h greater than on her
>>> hybrid.
>>>
>>> I've had similar experiences on my MTB, every thing's just so much more
>>> work than it is on a roadie.
>>
>> Sounds right to me. Now, when I jump on my hybrid, it seems like a lot
>> more work than the road bike. I'm not sure why ... rolling resistance,
>> perhaps. But in any case, for serious commuting, it's the road bike all
>> the way for me.
>
> Hmmm... now I want a road bike... ;-)

N+1 strikes!

Seriously though it all depends what you want to use the bike for. A
proper touring bike has most of the advantages of a road bike but is a
bit tougher and has loads of braze ons to mount racks and stuff like
that.

Now if only I could justify a tourer *and* a road bike...
--
Cheers | ~~ __@
Euan | ~~ _-\<,
Melbourne, Australia | ~ (*)/ (*)

 

[monsterman]

Ozcableguy said:

Hmmm... now I want a road bike... ;-)

Now you're talkin!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Jono L]

On 09/02/06 at 17:37:32 Jono L somehow managed to type:


<snip>

> sprint to le coq rouge!!!!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Ooh, sounds painfull - can it be treated ???


--
Humbug
BE A LOOF! (There has been a recent population explosion of lerts.)

only with a cut-off saddle, doh.

 

[monsterman]

"OzCableguy" <[email protected]> writes:

> "Stuart Lamble" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 2006-02-09, Euan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> My wife's recently scored a very nice (wish it fit me) road bike. With
>>> *much* less effort she can maintain a pace 5km/h greater than on her
>>> hybrid.
>>>
>>> I've had similar experiences on my MTB, every thing's just so much more
>>> work than it is on a roadie.
>>
>> Sounds right to me. Now, when I jump on my hybrid, it seems like a lot
>> more work than the road bike. I'm not sure why ... rolling resistance,
>> perhaps. But in any case, for serious commuting, it's the road bike all
>> the way for me.
>
> Hmmm... now I want a road bike... ;-)

N+1 strikes!

Seriously though it all depends what you want to use the bike for. A
proper touring bike has most of the advantages of a road bike but is a
bit tougher and has loads of braze ons to mount racks and stuff like
that.

Now if only I could justify a tourer *and* a road bike...
--
Cheers | ~~ __@
Euan | ~~ _-\<,
Melbourne, Australia | ~ (*)/ (*)

I don't know how you justify a tourer

 

[cfsmtb]

I don't know how you justify a tourer

Euan can justify whatever he flippin' well wants.

Our place is literally 'N + 1' given shape. The ground rules: Bikesoiler can bring home whatever he wants. So can I. As long as it's a bike*.


*or components.

 

[Resound]

"Humbug" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 09/02/06 at 17:37:32 Jono L somehow managed to type:
>
>
> <snip>
>
>> sprint to le coq rouge!!!!
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Ooh, sounds painfull - can it be treated ???
>
Considering that rouge can be used as a polish, it may in fact be the
treatment.

 

[monsterman]

Euan can justify whatever he flippin' well wants.

totally right on sister!! Iza teezer

Our place is literally 'N + 1' given shape. The ground rules: Bikesoiler can bring home whatever he wants. So can I. As long as it's a bike*.


*or components.

Does your last sentence:

(a) qualify what both of you are allowed to bring home; or

(b) tell us that there are no restrictions on what Bikesoiler can bring home,

and if (a), was it intended or some involuntary masochistic freudian slip/slap

 

[monsterman]

Hey cfsmtb sorry for the incorrect attribution in the last post. I'ze the teeza not you

 

[cfsmtb]

Hey cfsmtb sorry for the incorrect attribution in the last post. I'ze the teeza not you

Apologies accepted.

We can bring home whatever we like*. As long it isn't a Huffy or similar shitter.



*non human - must be bike stuff. $2K Trek Madones most welcome.

 

[Michael Warner]

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 09:52:53 +1000, Tamyka Bell wrote:

> So by EASY I mean I averaged 23.8 km/h on an almost-flat course. And I
> kept waiting for a "commuter-type" (1) to proudly struggle up and
> overtake me with a big grin... I couldn't wait to feel smug as they
> passed me. I was imagining how it would feel to say, "Oh, wow, you're
> fast, how did you recover from the 100km run so fast?" which, of course,
> I would never do... but it was that thought that had me feeling very
> smug - that people passing would feel good about it, but have no idea
> what I had done...

On easy recovery rides I roll at about 30km/h, sitting up, with one eye on
the HRM. IWHT that was slow enough for commuters and other inverted
snobs to get the red mist flaring and have a go, but obviously not.

My only problem is letting other roadies pass me. I need a jersey with
"Recovery Ride" printed on the back

> (1) Not to be confused with commuters, who ride their bikes to work,
> etc. Rather "commuter-types" are the ones who think their daily commute
> is some big important race and take all sorts of stupid risks to prove
> how good they are.

Particularly to people who are more efficiently dressed and equipped for
road riding.

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[Michael Warner]

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 15:31:00 +1000, Tamyka Bell wrote:

> I'd be guessing average, but really, it depends, I have seen some people
> riding hybrids at 10km/h (and wondered how they go straight at that
> speed) and others pass me...

I've found out that when I drop to about 7km/h on freakishly steep hills,
it's time to get off before I fall over and slide back down

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[Tamyka Bell]

Euan wrote:
<snip>
> It took me a while to learn that an ad hoc group sharing the load in a
> head wind is *not* the easiest ride home! Don't know what it is and I'm
> just as guilty of this as anyone else but when it's your turn on the
> front you just can't help yourself: you just crank it up way more than
> you would on your own 'cause you don't want to look like a woose!
<snip>

On the Tambo ride I did a few weeks back, we did a TT from the bottom of
the hill back to Waterford. I jumped on with a few girls and explained
to them that I was happy to do a turn to give them a rest, but it'd be
slower than their turns. Of course when the next group flew past
(without calling) the girls jumped on that and I didn't really notice
until it was too late. Dang it. Fsck taking turns, I wanna wheelsuck
;-)

T

 

[Tamyka Bell]

Michael Warner wrote:
>
> On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 15:31:00 +1000, Tamyka Bell wrote:
>
> > I'd be guessing average, but really, it depends, I have seen some people
> > riding hybrids at 10km/h (and wondered how they go straight at that
> > speed) and others pass me...
>
> I've found out that when I drop to about 7km/h on freakishly steep hills,
> it's time to get off before I fall over and slide back down

Oooh, the last bit of Mt Cotton. I was in ultra-granny gear and out of
the saddle, way forward to keep from tipping backwards, and too scared
to stop, as I knew I would never be able to plant my foot on something
so steep. Eeek!

T

 

[coppershark]

Yesterday was meant to be a rest day after a tough 95km on Tuesday and a moderate 90km on Sundee, so my intention was to just roll around Beach Rd, working on my tan.

With the headwind, I hitched a ride with a small group that wasn't going too fast, but a few kms later, one of the guys cranked it up a bit. There was no way I could let these guys think I was getting dropped, so I sat at the back with my HR at about 75%, which obviously ain't that hard, but not so good for really sore legs.

Then the group of 7 started to drop off one by one, so there I was, grinding along behind this one guy all the way up to Luna Park. So much for my 'easy day': I ended up doing 100km, about a third of which at ~75% max hr. Now my legs feel worse than yesterday. D'OH!!!

I am just a slow tourer but I thought that etiquette suggests that in a group you should take a turn on the front from time to time 531!

The Shark

 

[Bleve]

coppershark wrote:
> 531Aussie Wrote:
> >
> > Yesterday was meant to be a rest day after a tough 95km on Tuesday and
> > a moderate 90km on Sundee, so my intention was to just roll around
> > Beach Rd, working on my tan.
> >
> > With the headwind, I hitched a ride with a small group that wasn't
> > going too fast, but a few kms later, one of the guys cranked it up a
> > bit. There was no way I could let these guys think I was getting
> > dropped, so I sat at the back with my HR at about 75%, which obviously
> > ain't that hard, but not so good for really sore legs.
> >
> > Then the group of 7 started to drop off one by one, so there I was,
> > grinding along behind this one guy all the way up to Luna Park. So
> > much for my 'easy day': I ended up doing 100km, about a third of which
> > at ~75% max hr. Now my legs feel worse than yesterday. D'OH!!!
>
> I am just a slow tourer but I thought that etiquette suggests that in a
> group you should take a turn on the front from time to time 531!

If the rider on the front has the hammer down and is clearly doing some
sort of a high intensity effort, there's no need to. I get annoyed if
someone rolls over me when I'm doing an effort and I then have to sit
out to the side to get back in the wind, for example.

 

[Euan]

"Bleve" <[email protected]> writes:

> coppershark wrote:
>> I am just a slow tourer but I thought that etiquette suggests that in a
>> group you should take a turn on the front from time to time 531!
>
> If the rider on the front has the hammer down and is clearly doing some
> sort of a high intensity effort, there's no need to. I get annoyed if
> someone rolls over me when I'm doing an effort and I then have to sit
> out to the side to get back in the wind, for example.

Agreed. It does require a bit of judgement but it should be reasonably
clear when someone clearly wants to work and would *not* appreciate you
doing a turn at the front.

This happened to me today, I was doing 40 plus and a pair of roadies
flew past me. Sure I wheel sucked for a bit and enjoyed it; no way was
I going to take a turn on the front with a pannier laden steed when the
two roadies were riding race machines. That would just be stupid.
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Cheers | ~~ __@
Euan | ~~ _-\<,
Melbourne, Australia | ~ (*)/ (*)