daveryanwyoming said:
Well, I can't speak for Andy or Alex, but in terms of the stuff I posted I'd say all three of those are valuable skills and each is a complete skill that should be practiced in a sport specific way.
IOW, I can't think of a good way to do a standing start/peak speed sprint/repeatability acceleration drill. The standing starts and peak speed race sprints should be done with full focus and near complete recovery between individual efforts.
Makes sense because different types of sprints or maybe better to say 'L7 efforts', will emphasize different traits.
The repeatability NM acceleration work is best done in a complete and sport specific way such as Bill Black's Hour of Power work or other sustained microinterval efforts that emphasize repeated high power bursts and recovery at race pace.
daveryanwyoming said:
I guess I don't see a contradiction between the varying types of NM work and specificity as opposed to someone urging weight room work for the low velocity high force work, plyometrics for the acceleration aspects or maybe one legged uphill cycling drills to build leg strength.
This puts the 'practice the skill in a complete manner' into good perspective. Doing it on the bike in a relevant context, instead of in a gym, hoping to simulate body angles, speeds, forces, etc.
daveryanwyoming said:
Maybe I don't understand your confusion, but identifying a few varieties of bike specific NM work doesn't mean they're overly broken down and don't represent the fully integrated skill. It's just that NM work isn't expressed in just one way for all bike racing situations.
I'll take a shot at this one.
Standing starts - could address a strength limitation, and though maybe rare for men, being a woman this could be relevant for me. Plus I bet it helps when you have to sprint while overgeared and something tells me other racers aren't going to conveniently put off their jumps until you've shifted into your preferred gear.
Speed work - this one looks obvious. I mean to sprint you have to be able to spin your legs fast enough to generate maximal power. Unlike trackies though, you don't have to spin to 150 given a fully geared bike. Whether you do this off a ramp, with a tailwind, leadout, or motorpaced is irrelevant, just build speed.
Repeatability - you explained this one and I interpret it more as a sort of speed-endurance trait. That handy graph Alex put up of a crit race of his shows how often you need to be able to accelerate/burst.
daveryanwyoming said:
BTW, I don't even remember posting that thread or having those thoughts, but I agree with them and was probably steered towards those thoughts by someone else.
-Dave
Ha ha, it was a while ago. Got it off a thread called 'standing starts, sprints' (or vice versa).
daveryanwyoming said:
There's that regurgitating info thing again
LOL.
Dave's regurgitating info = passing on acquired knowledge = wisdom by most definitions