On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 09:32:57 -0400, "Alpha Male" <
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wrote:
.Mike. . .It's rather disappointing the someone with a PhD
would have nothing better .to do than stir up trouble in the
alt.mountain-bike newsgroup. Considering .you are university
educated, you would think that you would understand the
.consept of tact. Instead of simply throwing a clump of mud
in everyone face
Interesting -- when someone tells the truth about mountain
biking, you see that as "mud". Thanks for proving my point:
mountain bikers don't want the truth about their selfish,
destructive sport to be told.
.and seeing what they do about it, why didn't you try to
stimulate some .dialog on this issue? Instead you simply
attack everyone with one broad .sweep. You undermined your
own credibility. . .Likely everyone will retaliate with
defensive attacks and nothing will be .accomplished.
Obviously, you are more interested in our reaction than the
.actual topic you (apparently) are presenting. . .None the
less, this is my viewpoint on the matter. Mountain bikers
are .law-abiding, mostly conscious people. For myself, at
least, I bike only in .areas where mountain biking is
clearly allowed. I have never once gone "Off .Roading" in
National/Provincial (State) parks. I try to stay on the
trail .the best I can, and am always concious of pedestrians
on the trail. Anyone .that steps beyond these bounds
probably doesn't represent the majority of .mountain bikers.
You completely missed the point. Even "law-abiding" mountain
biking is very destructive to wildlife and people.
.That being said, you should be approaching the people who
regulate access to .natural places, not the people who use
these natural areas. What you appear .to be doing is trying
to get people to self-monitor their actions, which .they are
not equipped to do.
You can't control yourself? Interesting.
I am a mountain biker who enjoys nature, I am .not
education in nature presevation and/or conservation.
Obviously.
I depend on the .designate authorities to tell me where I
should and should not mountain .bike. Since I don't study
soil erosion, animal habitats, or plant foliage, .I cannot
tell if I am having an overly harmful effect on nature. I
do not .understand the total implication of my actions,
hence I depend on those .empowered to do so.
Then you need to read my paper.
.If you feel that there are too many people in too many
natural places, I .suggest you approach the parks service,
or whoever is in a position of .authority, and have them
restrict access to natural places. Don't go and .flame the
people using those natural places. . .Note: If you wanted to
prevent accidents on the highway because you felt .that the
posted speed limits were too high, you wouldn't go an attack
the .people who were driving within those speed limits. No,
you would approach .the DOT and ask them to reconsider the
legal posted limits, and possibly .lowering that limit. .
.Throwing mud in here will get you nowhere, and as I stated
before, it'll .only make you look bad.
And I should care why?
.Alpha Male . . . ."Mike Vandeman" <
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wrote in message
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news:[email protected]... .> On
Wed, 23 Jun 2004 10:50:19 -0700, "cc" <
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wrote: .> .> .> .> .> >Being an educated person I presume
that you are fluent in the ways .> .> >of forum etiquette
and as such know that spamming is poor form on .> .> >any
forum. .> .> > .> .> .> .> Being an educated person, you
should know that this is not a "forum", .it's .> .a .> .>
"newsgroup". Further, he is not spamming (has nothing to
sell), he is .> .just .> .> being a PITA. .> .> .> .
.> .mountain biking is detrimental to the environment. .> .>
alt.mountain-bike: there's no indication of that, nor is
there a FAQ .dictating .> that. You are LYING, as usual.
This newsgroup is for discussing mountain .biking. .>
Period. You are all wet. .> .> This is where people who .>
.have made the decision to mountain bike come to talk about
the sport they .> .love. I don't plan on walking into Mike
Vandeman's living room, where he .may .> .be talking with
his friends (?!) about <insert Vandeman hobby here> and
.place. .> . .> .Regardless, as someone else mentioned, I
think it obvious that a dialogue .> .would be infinitely
more constructive. .> . .> .> === .> I am working on
creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to .> humans
("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 .>
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) .> .>
http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande .
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits
to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the
previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road
construction.)
http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
