Turning pro after 30 & my accident

[John Lieswyn]

Kent Bostick told me that he didn't start getting good until 33 or so. Some people bloom late. I'm
34 and I feel in the best shape of my life, despite January's setbacks. I got plowed from behind
100m from the finish line in Brazil Jan 6th. Just when I felt recovered from that, some invincible
young woman in a Jeep 4x4 thought that her vehicle could go normal speed in a snowstorm and plowed
into my Saab at over 30mph, (I was waiting for the red light to change) totalling my car and giving
me serious whiplash, concussion, headaches. Although I have been training at least 90min a day I
haven't been able to up the intensity or even come close to staying on Adam Myerson's training plan,
because when I do go hard the headache gets pretty fierce. Thankfully it's now subsiding, and I'm
hoping to be able to get back on schedule next week.

 

[Trdina.Dejazzd.]

Dude,

This **** doesn't fool me. This is really Myerson trying to spiff himself.

Dude

"John Lieswyn" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:4g%_9.128343$AV4.3866@sccrnsc01...
> Kent Bostick told me that he didn't start getting good until 33 or so.
Some
> people bloom late. I'm 34 and I feel in the best shape of my life,
despite
> January's setbacks. I got plowed from behind 100m from the finish line in Brazil Jan 6th. Just
> when I felt recovered from that, some invincible
young
> woman in a Jeep 4x4 thought that her vehicle could go normal speed in a snowstorm and plowed into
> my Saab at over 30mph, (I was waiting for the
red
> light to change) totalling my car and giving me serious whiplash, concussion, headaches. Although
> I have been training at least 90min a day
I
> haven't been able to up the intensity or even come close to staying on
Adam
> Myerson's training plan, because when I do go hard the headache gets
pretty
> fierce. Thankfully it's now subsiding, and I'm hoping to be able to get back on schedule
> next week.

 

[Bob Schwartz]

John Lieswyn <[email protected]> wrote:
> Kent Bostick told me that he didn't start getting good until 33 or so. Some people bloom late. I'm
> 34 and I feel in the best shape of my life, despite

OK, I know you got it from the horse's mouth. But I have to point out that Kent first cracked
the top ten at Nationals in 1977 at the tender age of 23, something he repeated the following
year. After that he disappears for awhile. But he picked up TWO stars 'n' stripes jerseys (TT,
TTT) in 1985 at
31. If I had to hazard a guess as to what was going on in the intervening years it would be that he
was simply busy with something else like school. But that'd just be a guess.

And as for YOU, that musty old stars 'n' stripes jersey in YOUR closet dates from 1991, when you
were but a sprite, does it not?

Bob Schwartz [email protected]

 

[Bbc3]

"John Lieswyn" wrote:
> Kent Bostick told me that he didn't start getting good until 33 or so.
Some
> people bloom late. I'm 34 and I feel in the best shape of my life,
despite
> January's setbacks.

Joke or not. The only fool is the already-dead poor ******* who does not follow his dreams. Wanna
turn pro at 30 plus years of age? Only those who are truly willing to fail often and in grand style
will ever win big. Screw what the naysayers have to say cause they are the little people with little
dreams. Turn up the volume and live it up!

--
Bill

 

[Ronde Chumpion]

Bob Schwartz <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> John Lieswyn <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Kent Bostick told me that he didn't start getting good until 33 or so. Some people bloom late.
> > I'm 34 and I feel in the best shape of my life, despite
>
> OK, I know you got it from the horse's mouth. But I have to point out that Kent first cracked the
> top ten at Nationals in 1977 at the tender age of 23, something he repeated the following year.

Oh, Yeah.... 1978.....Milwaukee Road Front Nationals, let's talk about Bostick "repeating the
top ten". When he went to his car during the race and replaced his own chain. Some abuse of the
'free lap' rule. His fourth place is a tainted one.

Thanks, Ronde Chumpion

>
> Bob Schwartz [email protected]

 

[Bob Schwartz]

ronde chumpion <[email protected]> wrote:
> Bob Schwartz <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> OK, I know you got it from the horse's mouth. But I have to point out that Kent first cracked the
>> top ten at Nationals in 1977 at the tender age of 23, something he repeated the following year.

> Oh, Yeah.... 1978.....Milwaukee Road Front Nationals, let's talk about Bostick "repeating the
> top ten". When he went to his car during the race and replaced his own chain. Some abuse of
> the 'free lap' rule. His fourth place is a tainted one.

http://www.angelfire.com/realm/cvccbikers/ten_years/us_road.html#1978

Fourth place in the 1978 road race was Wayne Stetina.

http://www.angelfire.com/realm/cvccbikers/ten_years/us_tt.html#1978

Bostick took 7th in the TT.

Bob Schwartz [email protected]

 

[Les Earnest]

ronde chumpion <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Oh, Yeah.... 1978.....Milwaukee Road Front Nationals, let's talk about Bostick "repeating
> > the top ten". When he went to his car during the race and replaced his own chain. Some abuse
> > of the 'free lap' rule. His fourth place is a tainted one.

Bob Schwartz responds:
> http://www.angelfire.com/realm/cvccbikers/ten_years/us_road.html#1978
>
> Fourth place in the 1978 road race was Wayne Stetina.

My recollection is that Bostic sat out a lap or two undetected, then took a podium position at the
finish (perhaps second) and was awarded a medal. He was later disqualified after it was learned what
he had done. As I recall he also earned a short suspension for that stunt.

For comparison, in the junior road race championship that year Chris Springer, who was a five time
national champion in junior events, was disqualified at the starting line and later that day was
suspended for a year for throwing a firecracker out of a dormitory window. Never mind that this
alleged incident never happened and that if it had happened it had nothing to do with bike racing.
That incident got me started in USCF politics.

-Les Earnest

 

[Deeznuts]

"BBC3" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<kW0%9.123585$Ve4.8265@sccrnsc03>...
> "John Lieswyn" wrote:
> > Kent Bostick told me that he didn't start getting good until 33 or so.
> Some
> > people bloom late. I'm 34 and I feel in the best shape of my life,
> despite
> > January's setbacks.
>
> Joke or not. The only fool is the already-dead poor ******* who does not follow his dreams. Wanna
> turn pro at 30 plus years of age? Only those who are truly willing to fail often and in grand
> style will ever win big. Screw what the naysayers have to say cause they are the little people
> with little dreams. Turn up the volume and live it up!

Dude,

What the **** are you talking about?

Deez "Turn up the volume and live it up!" nuts

 

[Carl Sundquist]

"Bob Schwartz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> OK, I know you got it from the horse's mouth. But I have to point out that Kent first cracked
> the top ten at Nationals in 1977 at the tender age of 23, something he repeated the following
> year. After that he disappears for awhile. But he picked up TWO stars 'n' stripes jerseys (TT,
> TTT) in 1985 at
> 31.

1985 Road Natz were extremely lacking in quality riders. Ten Speed Drive placed 1-2-3-5 in the
ITT riding funny bikes with rear discs (equipment hardly anyone else had). Wayne Stetina won the
road race.

IIRC natz was run at the same time as the Coors Classic which drew away the top talent.

 

[Carl Sundquist]

"Bob Schwartz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> OK, I know you got it from the horse's mouth. But I have to point out that Kent first cracked the
> top ten at Nationals in 1977 at the tender age of 23

Now with respect to Kent for the fact that he's not the one here bragging (but he probably would be
if he was here), but a 58:16 isn't exactly smoking fast, especially when he got beat by a minute by
some punk junior.

 

[Bob Schwartz]

Carl Sundquist <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Bob Schwartz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> OK, I know you got it from the horse's mouth. But I have to point out that Kent first cracked the
>> top ten at Nationals in 1977 at the tender age of 23

> Now with respect to Kent for the fact that he's not the one here bragging (but he probably would
> be if he was here), but a 58:16 isn't exactly smoking fast, especially when he got beat by a
> minute by some punk junior.

Who knows what the conditions were? I may be a geezerhead but I was in high school then. But that
punk junior won the TT in his first year as a senior so he was certainly already one of the best.

Bob Schwartz [email protected]

 

[Carl Sundquist]

"Bob Schwartz" <[email protected]> wrote in message

> > Now with respect to Kent for the fact that he's not the one here
bragging
> > (but he probably would be if he was here), but a 58:16 isn't exactly
smoking
> > fast, especially when he got beat by a minute by some punk junior.
>
> Who knows what the conditions were? I may be a geezerhead but I was in high school then. But that
> punk junior won the TT in his first year as a senior so he was certainly already one of the best.
>

The times don't show any category disproportionately faster or slower than what would reasonably be
expected, even though Bostick would have ended up 3rd in the Juniors.

I don't troll very often, but calling Andy Weaver a "punk junior" should have been a dead giveaway.
Ian Jones was a very good rider, too.

 

[Warren]

In article <[email protected]>, Carl Sundquist <[email protected]> wrote:

> The times don't show any category disproportionately faster or slower than what would reasonably
> be expected, even though Bostick would have ended up 3rd in the Juniors.
>
> I don't troll very often, but calling Andy Weaver a "punk junior" should have been a dead
> giveaway. Ian Jones was a very good rider, too.

When I started racing those two were the ones to beat in the junior events. Add in Steve Pyle, who
like Ian Jones was from my state of CT.

Bonus trivia: What now defunct bicycle brand sponsored the team those three rode for? Hint: Lee
Iacocca knows.

-WG

 

[Andy Coggan]

"warren" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:040220031735182519%[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, Carl Sundquist <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> > The times don't show any category disproportionately faster or slower
than
> > what would reasonably be expected, even though Bostick would have ended
up
> > 3rd in the Juniors.
> >
> > I don't troll very often, but calling Andy Weaver a "punk junior" should have been a dead
> > giveaway. Ian Jones was a very good rider, too.
>
> When I started racing those two were the ones to beat in the junior events. Add in Steve Pyle, who
> like Ian Jones was from my state of CT.
>
> Bonus trivia: What now defunct bicycle brand sponsored the team those three rode for? Hint: Lee
> Iacocca knows.

Austro-Daimler.

Andy Coggan

 

[Tom Kunich]

Huh? The Stetina brothers were both in the top four and Davis Phinney was 7th and Doug Shapiro was
8th! I wonder what you called quality riders then!

"Carl Sundquist" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Bob Schwartz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
> > OK, I know you got it from the horse's mouth. But I have to point out that Kent first cracked
> > the top ten at Nationals in 1977 at the tender age of 23, something he repeated the following
> > year. After that he disappears for awhile. But he picked up TWO stars 'n' stripes jerseys (TT,
> > TTT) in 1985 at
> > 31.
>
> 1985 Road Natz were extremely lacking in quality riders. Ten Speed
Drive
> placed 1-2-3-5 in the ITT riding funny bikes with rear discs
(equipment
> hardly anyone else had). Wayne Stetina won the road race.
>
> IIRC natz was run at the same time as the Coors Classic which drew
away the
> top talent.

 

[Tom Kunich]

Carl, I was racing motorcycles at the time but I've heard several people say that the best
American bicycle racer they ever saw (and they've seen LeMond and Armstrong) was Wayne Stetina.
What do you think?

"Carl Sundquist" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Bob Schwartz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
> > OK, I know you got it from the horse's mouth. But I have to point out that Kent first cracked
> > the top ten at Nationals in 1977 at the tender age of 23
>
> Now with respect to Kent for the fact that he's not the one here
bragging
> (but he probably would be if he was here), but a 58:16 isn't exactly
smoking
> fast, especially when he got beat by a minute by some punk junior.

 

[Warren]

In article <p810[email protected]>, Tom Kunich
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Carl, I was racing motorcycles at the time but I've heard several people say that the best
> American bicycle racer they ever saw (and they've seen LeMond and Armstrong) was Wayne Stetina.
> What do you think?

No way was Wayne Stetina, a mere American pro who couldn't win much of anything in Europe at the
time, in the same league as GL and LA. Even John Howard had better results than the Stetinas. Back
then the Americans were considered a joke in the European peloton at events like the Worlds. George
Mount got a 5th at the Montreal Olympics and that was really the first time an American (male) did
anything noteworthy against the Euro pros on the road. Then Jonathan Boyer's 9th in the Tour, Mike
Neel's 10th in the World RR, then Greg LeMond and the 7-11 team winning a stage in the Giro...

It is nice to see that some of the Stetina brothers are still involved in cycling.

-WG

 

[Warren]

In article <7%_%[email protected]>, Andy Coggan
<[email protected]> wrote:

> "warren" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:040220031735182519%[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>, Carl Sundquist <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > The times don't show any category disproportionately faster or slower
> than
> > > what would reasonably be expected, even though Bostick would have ended
> up
> > > 3rd in the Juniors.
> > >
> > > I don't troll very often, but calling Andy Weaver a "punk junior" should have been a dead
> > > giveaway. Ian Jones was a very good rider, too.
> >
> > When I started racing those two were the ones to beat in the junior events. Add in Steve Pyle,
> > who like Ian Jones was from my state of CT.
> >
> > Bonus trivia: What now defunct bicycle brand sponsored the team those three rode for? Hint: Lee
> > Iacocca knows.
>
> Austro-Daimler.
>
> Andy Coggan

Too easy for an old guy!

 

[Carl Sundquist]

"Tom Kunich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Huh? The Stetina brothers were both in the top four and Davis Phinney was 7th and Doug Shapiro was
> 8th! I wonder what you called quality riders then!
>
> "Carl Sundquist" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >

> >
> > 1985 Road Natz were extremely lacking in quality riders. Ten Speed
> Drive
> > placed 1-2-3-5 in the ITT riding funny bikes with rear discs
> (equipment
> > hardly anyone else had). Wayne Stetina won the road race.
> >

Wrong year, Tom. I was referring to 1985 as you can see above.

 

[Carl Sundquist]

"Tom Kunich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> Carl, I was racing motorcycles at the time but I've heard several people say that the best
> American bicycle racer they ever saw (and they've seen LeMond and Armstrong) was Wayne Stetina.
> What do you think?
>

Wayne was good. I think Dale was better. I don't think either of them would have been in the same
league as Lemond or Armstrong, though.

In 1985 (the year I was referring to), Wayne was past his prime and probably working for Shimano
already. He made the most of a good opportunity on a course that doesn't have much climbing. In his
prime or not, he beat everyone else who was there.