Vortex ram

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I particularly enjoyed the part about how the miracle engine produced
10 horsepower, roughly 7,500 watts, using only 26.8 watts from the
batteries. With this technology, a pair of bicycle light generators
could power a riding lawnmower!

Then it would be an electric bike.

aka Gaby de Wilde said:

...
Going faster = more wind

Eating more beans = more wind?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter

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Chalo said:

Gaby De Wilde said:

Here, this is fun.http://community-2.webtv.net/SkyVessel/Control/

Also:http://www.rexresearch.com/alxandr/alexandr.htm

He wasn't the first to build it. Not the first fuel less auto to
disappear either. But he does seem to explain why his engine works.

Umm, he just whisks together some meaningless mumbo-jumbo that
probably sounded more esoteric then than it does now. But then, your
story was published in the National Tattler, which was a tabloid
comparable to the Weekly World News ("WWII Bomber Found On Moon!"😉:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220147771422
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320168189425
http://www.goantiques.com/detail,national-tattler-brigitte,734889.html
http://a-hole-in-the-head.blogspot.com/2007/04/national-tattler-and-other-tales-from.html

It seems the Tattler was all over the whole fuelless-car theme,
though:
http://www.free-energy.ws/images/Img0002.jpg
http://www.free-energy.ws/images/Img0001.jpg
http://www.free-energy.ws/images/2inventors1.jpg
http://www.free-energy.ws/images/WorldsFirst1.jpg
(All above images and more at http://www.free-energy.ws/gray.html )

The link you posted was a 1973 story, which means that the "invention"
is well out of patent protection by now. Go get 'em, tiger! You
could make a fortune from magical fuelless cars these days, as long as
they're magical fuelless giant SUVs.

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I think you are capable of making sense of it.

No, it takes a break from reality to make sense of it-- unless by
"make sense of" you mean "dismiss as false".

Nice links!

I particularly enjoyed the part about how the miracle engine produced
10 horsepower, roughly 7,500 watts, using only 26.8 watts from the
batteries. With this technology, a pair of bicycle light generators
could power a riding lawnmower!

Speaking of tabloids . . .

In "Missionary Stew," the late Ross Thomas has an unfortunate reporter
meeting his mother, who runs a tabloid similar to the Tattler. The
reporter's misfortune was to be jailed in Africa and to be told that
he was eating monkey meat that turned out to be the missionary stew
that the dictator sometimes enjoyed. His mother, a practical sort,
offers to buy his story for her readers. Although homeless and
clinically depressed after his release from prison, he declines his
mother's of $50,000 for the text for "My Son, the Cannibal."

On his way through the tabloid office hallway to meet his mother,
"What really bothered Citron was the cryptlike silence . . . There
were no ringing phones. No typewriters. No teletypes. No voices. There
were only closed doors behind which Citron suspected perfectly
god-awful fibs were being carefully concocted. He even thought one up
himself: TOT LOCKED IN FRIDGE GNAWS OFF TOES, although he wasn't all
at sure he hadn't cribbed that one from a copy of the 'Investigator'
he had scanned once while standing in line, food stamps in hand, at
the checkout counter . . ."

As I used to point out to impressionable freshmen, a good writer
reinforces his theme in subtle ways. It's no accident that Thomas has
his reporter come up with a headline about a child eating his own toes
while locked in a refrigerator, nor that the image is associated with
food stamps. After all, the reporter was imprisoned, starved, and
tricked into eating the flesh of some other innocent even more
unfortunate than himself.

Thanks for reminding me about that passage involving the tabloid
headline--I hadn't ever really stopped to think about it.

Another fun novel set in a tabloid weekly:
_Trust_Me_on_This_ by Donald E. Westlake.

--
Michael Press

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datakoll said:

well, you have this BS covered somewhat. try reading my stuff, which
is real and ranks for potential energy production. all in groups
sci.geo.earthquakes. and Ann Rand off course-wikipedia if not up to
actually reading.

rattle rattle

Yes, you clearly are upset by this topic.

It makes you talk all colors of diarrhea.

This is fascinating.

There is something here that is worth your time.

It's not hard to guess.

But you are now debunked.

:-)

On Dec 6, 4:44 am, datakoll <[email hidden]> wrote:
: a "negative drag" -to suit your search-occurs when an EQ wave passes
: thru your location: a paranormal doppler effect.
: ebergy from the surrounding atmosphereic voltage can be feed into
the
: "vortex" producing enhanced effects-like spooks, murphies law, heat
: lightning...

On Dec 6, 4:48 am, datakoll <[email hidden]> wrote:
: winter

On Dec 6, 2:16 pm, datakoll <[email hidden]> wrote:
: OK where does the effect suck energy from? unless you have a Mormon
or
: Ohio xemption, you must identify where the device get's its energy.
I
: mean like if the universe has to do it then you gotta do it.
: Qouting Pioters, France has no grip

On Dec 7, 12:56 am, datakoll <[email hidden]> wrote:
:
: I'm late. it's 6:55. I has a potato buring in the microwave.
:
: Ok. I haven't read the whole thing but whatever your purpose.
: The device, any device, generates heat from friction. So, as you
: develop the idea in fiction writing, recovering heat loss or better
: than generating heat loss takes the writing to a place of escape.
: Escape is a good start there. I'm waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay behind on my SF
: so....
: You are GD Wilde and off course I am also 'GD Wilde' so you, the
: poseur ? are suspect. In fact under the current conditions you are
: decidedly stinky.
: But as I am the real thing, I'll let you in on some reality.
: If you're not suspect then let me ask you what you thought of my
first
: reply?
: When I began writing bicycle, The Skeptic showed in RBT and began a
: loooong whoha about this and that. He went away. He doesn't annoy me
: as I have a International AAA psychic rating and I'm one of the good
: guys.
: I have a two page resume!
: Including trying to save the country several times and the planet,
the
: planet with a free energy device, a collector energy trap for the 40
: microvolts/meter''' I am what is called a "ground" and I'm
: telekinetic.
: I have demonstrated the effects and NASA investigated. I'm living at
: Cape Canaveral to devote a year's time to collector and national
: security within the NASA intelligence sphere-like a large university
: effect.
: I can use the effect to produce rain. I asked a main researcher in
: that area if he was interested: never heard from him.
: There's a lot going on here. Ever see "THE MAN WHO FELL TO EARTH"?
: The Mafia hired women, the psychics you see advertsing, to read my
: mind and scream at me thru ship's hailer mounted on pickup trucks
and
: vans, one now in my backyard- everytime I think.
: 24/7/365 for 14 years. The FBI, Florida Sheriff's, FDLE, NASA all
: support the continuous attack.
: So far, the attack cost the mob close to one million dollars.
: The mob controls and directs the USAF and National Guard fighters to
: strafe me while I'm running an experiment. The mob collects and
: orders 7-8 fishing boats to stand off shore where I'm remotely
camped
: so I cannot develop the idea: the boats blow horns together when I
try
: to think in terms of a collector.
: Here at Cape Canaveral, the local sheriff allows the mob to
broadcast
: CONTINUOUS screaming threats at 140-160 db thru my backyard from
10PM
: to 6AM, against county ordinance. Many of my neighbors in a gated
: beach community work at KSC. They support the mob as does most of
the
: local population. NASA workers support the mob. You know, the mob
that
: poisons NASA's children with narcotics and meth. Many NASA workers
are
: the mob. Certainly the Sheriff's are the mob.
: None of these people are interested in energy collection or national
: security. Yet if they thought, an interesting idea, I had a grip on
: the device, stealing it would be a priority. I do have a grip on it.
: The idea of it doesn't fit into their reality, sniffing tourist's
: [censored] to see if the tourists will give them money. Several NASA
: people in the area have wives and daughters who work as prostitutes.
: All prostitutes will courier drugs for the mob or else it's the bus
: stop.
: These people actually suppport serial killers, drug pushers and
child
: rapists as mutual travelers on life's highway.
: The FBI and Federal government support the mob. Worthless. I could
be
: in East Germany, 1960.
: NASCAR announcing, NPR, all Orlando FM and TV- when I listen they
: attack me. For example, a soap opera going on in the wall TV while
I'm
: at the Laundromat gets totally overdubbed with dialogue attacking
me.
: NPR works with mob mind readers who direct attacks on me, Sirius
: satellite radio - jerk named Dave -same deal. All connected to media
: music distribution.
: That's a possible reality when the work is more than a fiberglass
: toilet seat on a van roof.

On Dec 7, 7:53 pm, datakoll <[email hidden]> wrote:
: .0028 parsecs off AVAGADRO, a red dwarf in the BLUE RHINO galaxy,
lies
: a oddular tube worm structure of both zero gravity and below Kelvin.
: At 008973 GMT, THE COMMISSION placed the following structure into
the
: OTW. Generation of Z Waves will begin thricely.
:
:

:
: DVBORKNAG!

On Dec 8, 11:55 pm, datakoll <[email hidden]> wrote:
: the idea creates more drag and more drag and more drag
: without creating energy
: the idea doesn't create energy, it creates drag-friction-heat-energy
: loss.
: the energy must come from somewhere if only creative writing, not
: quotable obfuscations.

On Dec 10, 3:00 pm, datakoll <[email hidden]> wrote:
: WINTER HAS US IN ITS GRIP...
:
: sure, "creates lift," stick it in your Word proceesor and search.
: creates lift: 30 mph down and 75 mph forward
: positive thinking?
:
: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/10/sports/othersports/10flying.html?_r...

On Dec 12, 4:29 am, datakoll <[email hidden]> wrote:
: more drag. it's only windmill's turning. listen. The sailboat's
: windmill will generate auxiliary electricity but a windmill large
: enlough to power the sailboat-nada.
:
: the idea with creative writing in perpetual motion is intriguing
: obfuscation when you get to the daynewmah
:
: "The ship could use it's anchor to power the windmill just the same
: moving up the wind should allow for the same wind to be used....."
: gotta flesh it ut so it's beyond confusing to entertaining: once
: entertained, you're in!
: maybe there's a bibliography in cyberspace?
:
: BTW, my story is a new and apparently somewhat original complete
: explaination of reality. TOOT TOOT

On Dec 12, 5:36 am, datakoll <[email hidden]> wrote:
: sheeeeet. this here's a disssssscussssion group. Who dya wanna speak
: with? Brandt Brown, Armstrong, Muzi, Chalo... Phil Brown?
: Weeez sitting you dude.

On Dec 12, 5:48 pm, datakoll <[email hidden]> wrote:
: Stormgrin?

Hooked and wriggling.

--
Michael Press

Michael Press said:

Hooked and wriggling.

We have datakoll all figured out, he just needs a hug. HAHAhahAHAhaha

Ok, back to my topic. *grin*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramjet
"A ramjet, sometimes referred to as a stovepipe jet, is a form of jet
engine that contains no major moving parts and can be particularly
useful in applications requiring a small and simple engine for high
speed use; such as missiles. They have also been used successfully,
though not efficiently, as tipjets on helicopter rotors."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scramjet
"A scramjet (supersonic combustion ramjet) is a variation of a ramjet
with the key difference being that the flow in the combustor is
supersonic. At higher speeds it is necessary to combust supersonically
to maximize the efficiency of the combustion process. Projections for
the top speed of a scramjet engine (without additional oxidiser input)
vary between Mach 12 and Mach 24 (orbital velocity), but the X-30
research gave Mach 17 due to combustion rate issues. By way of
contrast, the fastest conventional air-breathing, manned vehicles,
such as the U.S. Air Force SR-71, achieve approximately Mach 3.4 and
rockets achieved Mach 30+ during the Apollo Program.

Like a ramjet, a scramjet essentially consists of a constricted tube
through which inlet air is compressed by the high speed of the
vehicle, a combustion chamber where fuel is combusted, and a nozzle
through which the exhaust jet leaves at higher speed than the inlet
air."

http://www.alt-accel.com/ramjet2.htm
"The literature on the F-80 tests of ramjets on the wingtips states
that they were ignited at 200 mph. And the Little Henry helicopter
started it's ramjets at rotor tip velocities of 150 fps, or about 100
mph.

An amateur ramjet experimenter interviewed stated that he started his
rotor-tipped ramjets by stuffing a gasoline-soaked rag in the exhaust,
lighting it, giving the rotor a swing with his hand, and letting it
accelerate on its own. Interestingly, his test stand was a long rotor
on a stand in the middle of a pasture."

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/vortex-ram
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An amateur ramjet experimenter interviewed stated that he started his
rotor-tipped ramjets by stuffing a gasoline-soaked rag in the exhaust,
lighting it, giving the rotor a swing with his hand, and letting it
accelerate on its own. Interestingly, his test stand was a long rotor
on a stand in the middle of a pasture."

I don't know about anyone else, but that's _exactly_ how I'd like to
jump start my bicycle! Or maybe a few shotgun shells like they used
to start the engine on the rebuilt airplane in The Phoenix.

I think I just heard an air horn - why don't you run out in the street
and see if a truck is coming...?

R

RicodJour said:

Quoted post said:

An amateur ramjet experimenter interviewed stated that he started his
rotor-tipped ramjets by stuffing a gasoline-soaked rag in the exhaust,
lighting it, giving the rotor a swing with his hand, and letting it
accelerate on its own. Interestingly, his test stand was a long rotor
on a stand in the middle of a pasture."

I don't know about anyone else, but that's _exactly_ how I'd like to
jump start my bicycle! Or maybe a few shotgun shells like they used
to start the engine on the rebuilt airplane in The Phoenix.

I think I just heard an air horn - why don't you run out in the street
and see if a truck is coming...?

R

cool, you are the first person on the Internets to mention "jump
starting bicycles". A ram jet is good at high speed, pedals are good
above 5 km/hr Jump starting is a great concept to boot up a flywheel.
When standing still one can jerk a belt or kick start a few times
until the flywheel is up to speed. It will be supper efficient as you
are storing it mechanically and using it straight away.

A clock spring could also store such energy.

Some years ago I invented the spring-flywheel utilising the same mass
2 times. It doesn't make either of them super useful but at least it
removes half their uselessness.

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/sailtrain
gabydewilde - Sailtrain

There is absolutely nothing wrong with wind powered public transport
but people desperately want the wind to come from exactly straight
ahead. They cant seem to put that desire out of their heads. Turbines
would fix this "problem", driving those up the wind will increase the
force of the wind. Trains are so huge there should be more then enough
surface area for them to be means of generating power in stead of
being an economic drain.

But I guess sailing is something so new it's not documented enough to
become a reality? Right?

http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/vortex-ram
gabydewilde - vortex ram