C
* * Chas
Guest
Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
Chas.
90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
Chas.
L
landotter
Guest
On Apr 16, 12:09 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
> 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
AFAIK, anything SIS+ will work short of Dura-Ace. That's a good solid
mech, I've shifted one of those many times, dispensing with clicking
most of the time...boy I miss downtube levers with friction just a
twist away...
> Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
> 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
AFAIK, anything SIS+ will work short of Dura-Ace. That's a good solid
mech, I've shifted one of those many times, dispensing with clicking
most of the time...boy I miss downtube levers with friction just a
twist away...
O
Ozark Bicycle
Guest
On Apr 16, 12:09 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
> 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
>
> Chas.
Yes. Absolutely. I've done this myself (RD-1050).
> Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
> 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
>
> Chas.
Yes. Absolutely. I've done this myself (RD-1050).
H
Hobbes@spnb&s.com
Guest
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:49:12 -0700 (PDT), landotter <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Apr 16, 12:09 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
>> 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
>
>AFAIK, anything SIS+ will work short of Dura-Ace. That's a good solid
>mech, I've shifted one of those many times, dispensing with clicking
>most of the time...boy I miss downtube levers with friction just a
>twist away...
That's been my experience as well aside from the odder D-A variants, anything
SIS will work with modern stuff up through 9s. Don't know about shifting 10 with
it.
>On Apr 16, 12:09 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
>> 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
>
>AFAIK, anything SIS+ will work short of Dura-Ace. That's a good solid
>mech, I've shifted one of those many times, dispensing with clicking
>most of the time...boy I miss downtube levers with friction just a
>twist away...
That's been my experience as well aside from the odder D-A variants, anything
SIS will work with modern stuff up through 9s. Don't know about shifting 10 with
it.
J
JeffWills
Guest
On Apr 16, 1:30 pm, Ozark Bicycle
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Apr 16, 12:09 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
> > 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
>
> > Chas.
>
> Yes. Absolutely. I've done this myself (RD-1050).
Maybe, maybe not. I tried this many years ago and found that the
derailleur did not have enough travel to reach the large cog. It
depends on the thickness of the deraillrrr hanger and spacing from the
hub, I think. The indexing should work, though.
With new 8-speed derailers (note homage to Sheldon) starting at $10
from Nashbar, I think you're better off getting a new shifting thingy
anyway.
Jeff
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Apr 16, 12:09 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
> > 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
>
> > Chas.
>
> Yes. Absolutely. I've done this myself (RD-1050).
Maybe, maybe not. I tried this many years ago and found that the
derailleur did not have enough travel to reach the large cog. It
depends on the thickness of the deraillrrr hanger and spacing from the
hub, I think. The indexing should work, though.
With new 8-speed derailers (note homage to Sheldon) starting at $10
from Nashbar, I think you're better off getting a new shifting thingy
anyway.
Jeff
O
Ozark Bicycle
Guest
On Apr 17, 7:15 pm, JeffWills <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Apr 16, 1:30 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Apr 16, 12:09 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
> > > 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
>
> > > Chas.
>
> > Yes. Absolutely. I've done this myself (RD-1050).
>
> Maybe, maybe not. I tried this many years ago and found that the
> derailleur did not have enough travel to reach the large cog. It
> depends on the thickness of the deraillrrr hanger and spacing from the
> hub, I think.
IME, with 'normal' 8sp spacing (Shimano cassette hub), it works fine.
Did you back the "L" limit screw out?
> The indexing should work, though.
>
> With new 8-speed derailers (note homage to Sheldon) starting at $10
> from Nashbar, I think you're better off getting a new shifting thingy
> anyway.
Why buy a cheap replacement derailleur (note proper spelling) when you
have a perfectly functional high quality one?
>
> On Apr 16, 1:30 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Apr 16, 12:09 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
> > > 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
>
> > > Chas.
>
> > Yes. Absolutely. I've done this myself (RD-1050).
>
> Maybe, maybe not. I tried this many years ago and found that the
> derailleur did not have enough travel to reach the large cog. It
> depends on the thickness of the deraillrrr hanger and spacing from the
> hub, I think.
IME, with 'normal' 8sp spacing (Shimano cassette hub), it works fine.
Did you back the "L" limit screw out?
> The indexing should work, though.
>
> With new 8-speed derailers (note homage to Sheldon) starting at $10
> from Nashbar, I think you're better off getting a new shifting thingy
> anyway.
Why buy a cheap replacement derailleur (note proper spelling) when you
have a perfectly functional high quality one?
>
T
Tom Sherman
Guest
Ozark Bicycle wrote:
> On Apr 17, 7:15 pm, JeffWills <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Apr 16, 1:30 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Apr 16, 12:09 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
>>>> 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
>>>> Chas.
>>> Yes. Absolutely. I've done this myself (RD-1050).
>> Maybe, maybe not. I tried this many years ago and found that the
>> derailleur did not have enough travel to reach the large cog. It
>> depends on the thickness of the deraillrrr hanger and spacing from the
>> hub, I think.
>
> IME, with 'normal' 8sp spacing (Shimano cassette hub), it works fine.
> Did you back the "L" limit screw out?
>
>> The indexing should work, though.
>>
>> With new 8-speed derailers (note homage to Sheldon) starting at $10
>> from Nashbar, I think you're better off getting a new shifting thingy
>> anyway.
>
> Why buy a cheap replacement derailleur (note proper spelling) when you
> have a perfectly functional high quality one?
>
The correct spelling is "dérailleur", not derailleur". "Derailer" is
certainly a better choice than "derailleur" for a written English forum
such as rec.bicycles.tech.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
> On Apr 17, 7:15 pm, JeffWills <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Apr 16, 1:30 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Apr 16, 12:09 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
>>>> 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
>>>> Chas.
>>> Yes. Absolutely. I've done this myself (RD-1050).
>> Maybe, maybe not. I tried this many years ago and found that the
>> derailleur did not have enough travel to reach the large cog. It
>> depends on the thickness of the deraillrrr hanger and spacing from the
>> hub, I think.
>
> IME, with 'normal' 8sp spacing (Shimano cassette hub), it works fine.
> Did you back the "L" limit screw out?
>
>> The indexing should work, though.
>>
>> With new 8-speed derailers (note homage to Sheldon) starting at $10
>> from Nashbar, I think you're better off getting a new shifting thingy
>> anyway.
>
> Why buy a cheap replacement derailleur (note proper spelling) when you
> have a perfectly functional high quality one?
>
The correct spelling is "dérailleur", not derailleur". "Derailer" is
certainly a better choice than "derailleur" for a written English forum
such as rec.bicycles.tech.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
O
Ozark Bicycle
Guest
On Apr 17, 11:52 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
> > On Apr 17, 7:15 pm, JeffWills <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Apr 16, 1:30 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> On Apr 16, 12:09 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
> >>>> 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
> >>>> Chas.
> >>> Yes. Absolutely. I've done this myself (RD-1050).
> >> Maybe, maybe not. I tried this many years ago and found that the
> >> derailleur did not have enough travel to reach the large cog. It
> >> depends on the thickness of the deraillrrr hanger and spacing from the
> >> hub, I think.
>
> > IME, with 'normal' 8sp spacing (Shimano cassette hub), it works fine.
> > Did you back the "L" limit screw out?
>
> >> The indexing should work, though.
>
> >> With new 8-speed derailers (note homage to Sheldon) starting at $10
> >> from Nashbar, I think you're better off getting a new shifting thingy
> >> anyway.
>
> > Why buy a cheap replacement derailleur (note proper spelling) when you
> > have a perfectly functional high quality one?
>
> The correct spelling is "d�railleur", not derailleur". "Derailer" is
> certainly a better choice than "derailleur" for a written English forum
> such as rec.bicycles.tech.
>
Really? Well, let's explore-
First, we'll Google "derailer":
http://tinyurl.com/3rtkvz
(First line: "Do you mean derailleur"!)
Okay, let's Google "derailleur":
http://tinyurl.com/53tjog
That's better!!!!
Now, let's check a dictionary (Dictionary.com):
"Derailer"
http://tinyurl.com/4hzaon
No results for "derailer"......damn!!!
Well, let's try "derailleur":
Ah......that's better!
What's next, Tommy? Wanna try changing the spelling of "wheel", too?
Who needs that pesky "h", anyway?
Enjoy your windmills! ;-)
wrote:
> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
> > On Apr 17, 7:15 pm, JeffWills <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Apr 16, 1:30 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> On Apr 16, 12:09 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
> >>>> 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
> >>>> Chas.
> >>> Yes. Absolutely. I've done this myself (RD-1050).
> >> Maybe, maybe not. I tried this many years ago and found that the
> >> derailleur did not have enough travel to reach the large cog. It
> >> depends on the thickness of the deraillrrr hanger and spacing from the
> >> hub, I think.
>
> > IME, with 'normal' 8sp spacing (Shimano cassette hub), it works fine.
> > Did you back the "L" limit screw out?
>
> >> The indexing should work, though.
>
> >> With new 8-speed derailers (note homage to Sheldon) starting at $10
> >> from Nashbar, I think you're better off getting a new shifting thingy
> >> anyway.
>
> > Why buy a cheap replacement derailleur (note proper spelling) when you
> > have a perfectly functional high quality one?
>
> The correct spelling is "d�railleur", not derailleur". "Derailer" is
> certainly a better choice than "derailleur" for a written English forum
> such as rec.bicycles.tech.
>
Really? Well, let's explore-
First, we'll Google "derailer":
http://tinyurl.com/3rtkvz
(First line: "Do you mean derailleur"!)
Okay, let's Google "derailleur":
http://tinyurl.com/53tjog
That's better!!!!
Now, let's check a dictionary (Dictionary.com):
"Derailer"
http://tinyurl.com/4hzaon
No results for "derailer"......damn!!!
Well, let's try "derailleur":
Ah......that's better!
What's next, Tommy? Wanna try changing the spelling of "wheel", too?
Who needs that pesky "h", anyway?
Enjoy your windmills! ;-)
H
Hobbes@spnb&s.com
Guest
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:06:40 -0700 (PDT), Ozark Bicycle
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Apr 17, 11:52 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
>> > On Apr 17, 7:15 pm, JeffWills <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> On Apr 16, 1:30 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>>
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> On Apr 16, 12:09 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>> Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
>> >>>> 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
>> >>>> Chas.
>> >>> Yes. Absolutely. I've done this myself (RD-1050).
>> >> Maybe, maybe not. I tried this many years ago and found that the
>> >> derailleur did not have enough travel to reach the large cog. It
>> >> depends on the thickness of the deraillrrr hanger and spacing from the
>> >> hub, I think.
>>
>> > IME, with 'normal' 8sp spacing (Shimano cassette hub), it works fine.
>> > Did you back the "L" limit screw out?
>>
>> >> The indexing should work, though.
>>
>> >> With new 8-speed derailers (note homage to Sheldon) starting at $10
>> >> from Nashbar, I think you're better off getting a new shifting thingy
>> >> anyway.
>>
>> > Why buy a cheap replacement derailleur (note proper spelling) when you
>> > have a perfectly functional high quality one?
>>
>> The correct spelling is "d?railleur", not derailleur". "Derailer" is
>> certainly a better choice than "derailleur" for a written English forum
>> such as rec.bicycles.tech.
>>
>
>Really? Well, let's explore-
>
>First, we'll Google "derailer":
>
>http://tinyurl.com/3rtkvz
>
>(First line: "Do you mean derailleur"!)
>
>Okay, let's Google "derailleur":
>
>http://tinyurl.com/53tjog
>
>That's better!!!!
>
>Now, let's check a dictionary (Dictionary.com):
>
>"Derailer"
>
>http://tinyurl.com/4hzaon
>
>No results for "derailer"......damn!!!
>
>Well, let's try "derailleur":
>
>Ah......that's better!
>
>What's next, Tommy? Wanna try changing the spelling of "wheel", too?
>Who needs that pesky "h", anyway?
There's no reason to change the spelling of "wheel" it is a perfectly good
English language word. Why do you insist on using a French spelling for some
bike parts? You don't use French for the crankset or chain or any other thing.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Apr 17, 11:52 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
>> > On Apr 17, 7:15 pm, JeffWills <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> On Apr 16, 1:30 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>>
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> On Apr 16, 12:09 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>> Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
>> >>>> 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
>> >>>> Chas.
>> >>> Yes. Absolutely. I've done this myself (RD-1050).
>> >> Maybe, maybe not. I tried this many years ago and found that the
>> >> derailleur did not have enough travel to reach the large cog. It
>> >> depends on the thickness of the deraillrrr hanger and spacing from the
>> >> hub, I think.
>>
>> > IME, with 'normal' 8sp spacing (Shimano cassette hub), it works fine.
>> > Did you back the "L" limit screw out?
>>
>> >> The indexing should work, though.
>>
>> >> With new 8-speed derailers (note homage to Sheldon) starting at $10
>> >> from Nashbar, I think you're better off getting a new shifting thingy
>> >> anyway.
>>
>> > Why buy a cheap replacement derailleur (note proper spelling) when you
>> > have a perfectly functional high quality one?
>>
>> The correct spelling is "d?railleur", not derailleur". "Derailer" is
>> certainly a better choice than "derailleur" for a written English forum
>> such as rec.bicycles.tech.
>>
>
>Really? Well, let's explore-
>
>First, we'll Google "derailer":
>
>http://tinyurl.com/3rtkvz
>
>(First line: "Do you mean derailleur"!)
>
>Okay, let's Google "derailleur":
>
>http://tinyurl.com/53tjog
>
>That's better!!!!
>
>Now, let's check a dictionary (Dictionary.com):
>
>"Derailer"
>
>http://tinyurl.com/4hzaon
>
>No results for "derailer"......damn!!!
>
>Well, let's try "derailleur":
>
>Ah......that's better!
>
>What's next, Tommy? Wanna try changing the spelling of "wheel", too?
>Who needs that pesky "h", anyway?
There's no reason to change the spelling of "wheel" it is a perfectly good
English language word. Why do you insist on using a French spelling for some
bike parts? You don't use French for the crankset or chain or any other thing.
O
Ozark Bicycle
Guest
On Apr 18, 9:06 am, Hobbes@spnb&s.com wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:06:40 -0700 (PDT), Ozark Bicycle
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Apr 17, 11:52 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
> >> > On Apr 17, 7:15 pm, JeffWills <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> On Apr 16, 1:30 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>> On Apr 16, 12:09 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>>> Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
> >> >>>> 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
> >> >>>> Chas.
> >> >>> Yes. Absolutely. I've done this myself (RD-1050).
> >> >> Maybe, maybe not. I tried this many years ago and found that the
> >> >> derailleur did not have enough travel to reach the large cog. It
> >> >> depends on the thickness of the deraillrrr hanger and spacing from the
> >> >> hub, I think.
>
> >> > IME, with 'normal' 8sp spacing (Shimano cassette hub), it works fine.
> >> > Did you back the "L" limit screw out?
>
> >> >> The indexing should work, though.
>
> >> >> With new 8-speed derailers (note homage to Sheldon) starting at $10
> >> >> from Nashbar, I think you're better off getting a new shifting thingy
> >> >> anyway.
>
> >> > Why buy a cheap replacement derailleur (note proper spelling) when you
> >> > have a perfectly functional high quality one?
>
> >> The correct spelling is "d?railleur", not derailleur". "Derailer" is
> >> certainly a better choice than "derailleur" for a written English forum
> >> such as rec.bicycles.tech.
>
> >Really? Well, let's explore-
>
> >First, we'll Google "derailer":
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/3rtkvz
>
> >(First line: "Do you mean derailleur"!)
>
> >Okay, let's Google "derailleur":
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/53tjog
>
> >That's better!!!!
>
> >Now, let's check a dictionary (Dictionary.com):
>
> >"Derailer"
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/4hzaon
>
> >No results for "derailer"......damn!!!
>
> >Well, let's try "derailleur":
>
> >Ah......that's better!
>
> >What's next, Tommy? Wanna try changing the spelling of "wheel", too?
> >Who needs that pesky "h", anyway?
>
> There's no reason to change the spelling of "wheel" it is a perfectly good
> English language word. Why do you insist on using a French spelling for some
> bike parts? You don't use French for the crankset or chain or any other thing.
If your case of xenophobia precludes the use of the very widely
accepted word "derailleur", try "changer", "mechanism" or even "mech".
> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:06:40 -0700 (PDT), Ozark Bicycle
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Apr 17, 11:52 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
> >> > On Apr 17, 7:15 pm, JeffWills <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> On Apr 16, 1:30 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>> On Apr 16, 12:09 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>>> Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
> >> >>>> 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
> >> >>>> Chas.
> >> >>> Yes. Absolutely. I've done this myself (RD-1050).
> >> >> Maybe, maybe not. I tried this many years ago and found that the
> >> >> derailleur did not have enough travel to reach the large cog. It
> >> >> depends on the thickness of the deraillrrr hanger and spacing from the
> >> >> hub, I think.
>
> >> > IME, with 'normal' 8sp spacing (Shimano cassette hub), it works fine.
> >> > Did you back the "L" limit screw out?
>
> >> >> The indexing should work, though.
>
> >> >> With new 8-speed derailers (note homage to Sheldon) starting at $10
> >> >> from Nashbar, I think you're better off getting a new shifting thingy
> >> >> anyway.
>
> >> > Why buy a cheap replacement derailleur (note proper spelling) when you
> >> > have a perfectly functional high quality one?
>
> >> The correct spelling is "d?railleur", not derailleur". "Derailer" is
> >> certainly a better choice than "derailleur" for a written English forum
> >> such as rec.bicycles.tech.
>
> >Really? Well, let's explore-
>
> >First, we'll Google "derailer":
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/3rtkvz
>
> >(First line: "Do you mean derailleur"!)
>
> >Okay, let's Google "derailleur":
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/53tjog
>
> >That's better!!!!
>
> >Now, let's check a dictionary (Dictionary.com):
>
> >"Derailer"
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/4hzaon
>
> >No results for "derailer"......damn!!!
>
> >Well, let's try "derailleur":
>
> >Ah......that's better!
>
> >What's next, Tommy? Wanna try changing the spelling of "wheel", too?
> >Who needs that pesky "h", anyway?
>
> There's no reason to change the spelling of "wheel" it is a perfectly good
> English language word. Why do you insist on using a French spelling for some
> bike parts? You don't use French for the crankset or chain or any other thing.
If your case of xenophobia precludes the use of the very widely
accepted word "derailleur", try "changer", "mechanism" or even "mech".
C
* * Chas
Guest
<Hobbes@spnb&s.com> wrote in message
news
[email protected]...
> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:06:40 -0700 (PDT), Ozark Bicycle
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Apr 17, 11:52 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
> >> > On Apr 17, 7:15 pm, JeffWills <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> On Apr 16, 1:30 pm, Ozark Bicycle
> >>
> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>> On Apr 16, 12:09 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> >> >>>> Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur
from the
> >> >>>> 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
> >> >>>> Chas.
> >> >>> Yes. Absolutely. I've done this myself (RD-1050).
> >> >> Maybe, maybe not. I tried this many years ago and found that the
> >> >> derailleur did not have enough travel to reach the large cog. It
> >> >> depends on the thickness of the deraillrrr hanger and spacing from
the
> >> >> hub, I think.
> >>
> >> > IME, with 'normal' 8sp spacing (Shimano cassette hub), it works
fine.
> >> > Did you back the "L" limit screw out?
> >>
> >> >> The indexing should work, though.
> >>
> >> >> With new 8-speed derailers (note homage to Sheldon) starting at
$10
> >> >> from Nashbar, I think you're better off getting a new shifting
thingy
> >> >> anyway.
> >>
> >> > Why buy a cheap replacement derailleur (note proper spelling) when
you
> >> > have a perfectly functional high quality one?
> >>
> >> The correct spelling is "d?railleur", not derailleur". "Derailer" is
> >> certainly a better choice than "derailleur" for a written English
forum
> >> such as rec.bicycles.tech.
> >>
> >
> >Really? Well, let's explore-
> >
> >First, we'll Google "derailer":
> >
> >http://tinyurl.com/3rtkvz
> >
> >(First line: "Do you mean derailleur"!)
> >
> >Okay, let's Google "derailleur":
> >
> >http://tinyurl.com/53tjog
> >
> >That's better!!!!
> >
> >Now, let's check a dictionary (Dictionary.com):
> >
> >"Derailer"
> >
> >http://tinyurl.com/4hzaon
> >
> >No results for "derailer"......damn!!!
> >
> >Well, let's try "derailleur":
> >
> >Ah......that's better!
> >
> >What's next, Tommy? Wanna try changing the spelling of "wheel", too?
> >Who needs that pesky "h", anyway?
>
> There's no reason to change the spelling of "wheel" it is a perfectly
good
> English language word. Why do you insist on using a French spelling for
some
> bike parts? You don't use French for the crankset or chain or any other
thing.
DE-RAIL-YOUR or DE-RAIL-YER? ;-)
Chas..
news
[email protected]...> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:06:40 -0700 (PDT), Ozark Bicycle
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Apr 17, 11:52 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
> >> > On Apr 17, 7:15 pm, JeffWills <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> On Apr 16, 1:30 pm, Ozark Bicycle
> >>
> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>> On Apr 16, 12:09 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> >> >>>> Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur
from the
> >> >>>> 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
> >> >>>> Chas.
> >> >>> Yes. Absolutely. I've done this myself (RD-1050).
> >> >> Maybe, maybe not. I tried this many years ago and found that the
> >> >> derailleur did not have enough travel to reach the large cog. It
> >> >> depends on the thickness of the deraillrrr hanger and spacing from
the
> >> >> hub, I think.
> >>
> >> > IME, with 'normal' 8sp spacing (Shimano cassette hub), it works
fine.
> >> > Did you back the "L" limit screw out?
> >>
> >> >> The indexing should work, though.
> >>
> >> >> With new 8-speed derailers (note homage to Sheldon) starting at
$10
> >> >> from Nashbar, I think you're better off getting a new shifting
thingy
> >> >> anyway.
> >>
> >> > Why buy a cheap replacement derailleur (note proper spelling) when
you
> >> > have a perfectly functional high quality one?
> >>
> >> The correct spelling is "d?railleur", not derailleur". "Derailer" is
> >> certainly a better choice than "derailleur" for a written English
forum
> >> such as rec.bicycles.tech.
> >>
> >
> >Really? Well, let's explore-
> >
> >First, we'll Google "derailer":
> >
> >http://tinyurl.com/3rtkvz
> >
> >(First line: "Do you mean derailleur"!)
> >
> >Okay, let's Google "derailleur":
> >
> >http://tinyurl.com/53tjog
> >
> >That's better!!!!
> >
> >Now, let's check a dictionary (Dictionary.com):
> >
> >"Derailer"
> >
> >http://tinyurl.com/4hzaon
> >
> >No results for "derailer"......damn!!!
> >
> >Well, let's try "derailleur":
> >
> >Ah......that's better!
> >
> >What's next, Tommy? Wanna try changing the spelling of "wheel", too?
> >Who needs that pesky "h", anyway?
>
> There's no reason to change the spelling of "wheel" it is a perfectly
good
> English language word. Why do you insist on using a French spelling for
some
> bike parts? You don't use French for the crankset or chain or any other
thing.
DE-RAIL-YOUR or DE-RAIL-YER? ;-)
Chas..
J
JeffWills
Guest
On Apr 17, 7:55 pm, Ozark Bicycle
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Apr 17, 7:15 pm, JeffWills <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 16, 1:30 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Apr 16, 12:09 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
> > > > 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
>
> > > > Chas.
>
> > > Yes. Absolutely. I've done this myself (RD-1050).
>
> > Maybe, maybe not. I tried this many years ago and found that the
> > derailleur did not have enough travel to reach the large cog. It
> > depends on the thickness of the deraillrrr hanger and spacing from the
> > hub, I think.
>
> IME, with 'normal' 8sp spacing (Shimano cassette hub), it works fine.
> Did you back the "L" limit screw out?
>
Yep... even then I had 15 years' experience working on all sorts of
bicycles. The chain would *barely* make the shift to the big cog, then
shift to the second cog with the least provocation. I may have had an
extra-thick derailing-thingy hanger, though.
> > The indexing should work, though.
>
> > With new 8-speed derailers (note homage to Sheldon) starting at $10
> > from Nashbar, I think you're better off getting a new shifting thingy
> > anyway.
>
> Why buy a cheap replacement derailleur (note proper spelling) when you
> have a perfectly functional high quality one?
>
If it doesn't shift to all the cogs, it isn't "perfectly functional",
is it?
And as to the spelling- if it's good enough for country music:
http://www.myspace.com/derailers
it's good enough for me.
Jeff
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Apr 17, 7:15 pm, JeffWills <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 16, 1:30 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Apr 16, 12:09 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
> > > > 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
>
> > > > Chas.
>
> > > Yes. Absolutely. I've done this myself (RD-1050).
>
> > Maybe, maybe not. I tried this many years ago and found that the
> > derailleur did not have enough travel to reach the large cog. It
> > depends on the thickness of the deraillrrr hanger and spacing from the
> > hub, I think.
>
> IME, with 'normal' 8sp spacing (Shimano cassette hub), it works fine.
> Did you back the "L" limit screw out?
>
Yep... even then I had 15 years' experience working on all sorts of
bicycles. The chain would *barely* make the shift to the big cog, then
shift to the second cog with the least provocation. I may have had an
extra-thick derailing-thingy hanger, though.
> > The indexing should work, though.
>
> > With new 8-speed derailers (note homage to Sheldon) starting at $10
> > from Nashbar, I think you're better off getting a new shifting thingy
> > anyway.
>
> Why buy a cheap replacement derailleur (note proper spelling) when you
> have a perfectly functional high quality one?
>
If it doesn't shift to all the cogs, it isn't "perfectly functional",
is it?
And as to the spelling- if it's good enough for country music:
http://www.myspace.com/derailers
it's good enough for me.
Jeff
T
Tom Sherman
Guest
Ozark Bicycle wrote:
> On Apr 17, 11:52 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
>>> On Apr 17, 7:15 pm, JeffWills <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Apr 16, 1:30 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 16, 12:09 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
>>>>>> 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
>>>>>> Chas.
>>>>> Yes. Absolutely. I've done this myself (RD-1050).
>>>> Maybe, maybe not. I tried this many years ago and found that the
>>>> derailleur did not have enough travel to reach the large cog. It
>>>> depends on the thickness of the deraillrrr hanger and spacing from the
>>>> hub, I think.
>>> IME, with 'normal' 8sp spacing (Shimano cassette hub), it works fine.
>>> Did you back the "L" limit screw out?
>>>> The indexing should work, though.
>>>> With new 8-speed derailers (note homage to Sheldon) starting at $10
>>>> from Nashbar, I think you're better off getting a new shifting thingy
>>>> anyway.
>>> Why buy a cheap replacement derailleur (note proper spelling) when you
>>> have a perfectly functional high quality one?
>> The correct spelling is "d�railleur", not derailleur". "Derailer" is
>> certainly a better choice than "derailleur" for a written English forum
>> such as rec.bicycles.tech.
>>
>
> Really? Well, let's explore-
>
> First, we'll Google "derailer":
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3rtkvz
>
> (First line: "Do you mean derailleur"!)
>
> Okay, let's Google "derailleur":
>
> http://tinyurl.com/53tjog
>
> That's better!!!!
>
> Now, let's check a dictionary (Dictionary.com):
>
> "Derailer"
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4hzaon
>
> No results for "derailer"......damn!!!
>
> Well, let's try "derailleur":
>
> Ah......that's better!
>
> What's next, Tommy? Wanna try changing the spelling of "wheel", too?
> Who needs that pesky "h", anyway?
>
> Enjoy your windmills! ;-)
"Derailleur" is an abomination; neither French nor English. Spell the
word correctly (dérailleur) or use a sensible phonetic English spelling
(derailer).
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
> On Apr 17, 11:52 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
>>> On Apr 17, 7:15 pm, JeffWills <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Apr 16, 1:30 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 16, 12:09 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
>>>>>> 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
>>>>>> Chas.
>>>>> Yes. Absolutely. I've done this myself (RD-1050).
>>>> Maybe, maybe not. I tried this many years ago and found that the
>>>> derailleur did not have enough travel to reach the large cog. It
>>>> depends on the thickness of the deraillrrr hanger and spacing from the
>>>> hub, I think.
>>> IME, with 'normal' 8sp spacing (Shimano cassette hub), it works fine.
>>> Did you back the "L" limit screw out?
>>>> The indexing should work, though.
>>>> With new 8-speed derailers (note homage to Sheldon) starting at $10
>>>> from Nashbar, I think you're better off getting a new shifting thingy
>>>> anyway.
>>> Why buy a cheap replacement derailleur (note proper spelling) when you
>>> have a perfectly functional high quality one?
>> The correct spelling is "d�railleur", not derailleur". "Derailer" is
>> certainly a better choice than "derailleur" for a written English forum
>> such as rec.bicycles.tech.
>>
>
> Really? Well, let's explore-
>
> First, we'll Google "derailer":
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3rtkvz
>
> (First line: "Do you mean derailleur"!)
>
> Okay, let's Google "derailleur":
>
> http://tinyurl.com/53tjog
>
> That's better!!!!
>
> Now, let's check a dictionary (Dictionary.com):
>
> "Derailer"
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4hzaon
>
> No results for "derailer"......damn!!!
>
> Well, let's try "derailleur":
>
> Ah......that's better!
>
> What's next, Tommy? Wanna try changing the spelling of "wheel", too?
> Who needs that pesky "h", anyway?
>
> Enjoy your windmills! ;-)
"Derailleur" is an abomination; neither French nor English. Spell the
word correctly (dérailleur) or use a sensible phonetic English spelling
(derailer).
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
O
Ozark Bicycle
Guest
On Apr 18, 9:29 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> "Derailleur" is an abomination; neither French nor English. Spell the
> word correctly (dérailleur) or use a sensible phonetic English spelling
> (derailer).
>
Is the rod you have up your ass wood, steel or CFRP?
Loosen up, Tommy, it's a drag to die a virgin.......
wrote:
>
> "Derailleur" is an abomination; neither French nor English. Spell the
> word correctly (dérailleur) or use a sensible phonetic English spelling
> (derailer).
>
Is the rod you have up your ass wood, steel or CFRP?
Loosen up, Tommy, it's a drag to die a virgin.......
O
Ozark Bicycle
Guest
On Apr 18, 8:26 pm, JeffWills <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Apr 17, 7:55 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Apr 17, 7:15 pm, JeffWills <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 16, 1:30 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > On Apr 16, 12:09 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
> > > > > 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
>
> > > > > Chas.
>
> > > > Yes. Absolutely. I've done this myself (RD-1050).
>
> > > Maybe, maybe not. I tried this many years ago and found that the
> > > derailleur did not have enough travel to reach the large cog. It
> > > depends on the thickness of the deraillrrr hanger and spacing from the
> > > hub, I think.
>
> > IME, with 'normal' 8sp spacing (Shimano cassette hub), it works fine.
> > Did you back the "L" limit screw out?
>
> Yep... even then I had 15 years' experience working on all sorts of
> bicycles. The chain would *barely* make the shift to the big cog, then
> shift to the second cog with the least provocation. I may have had an
> extra-thick derailing-thingy hanger, though.
It must have been quite thick. Or, perhaps something else was at play?
>
> > > The indexing should work, though.
>
> > > With new 8-speed derailers (note homage to Sheldon) starting at $10
> > > from Nashbar, I think you're better off getting a new shifting thingy
> > > anyway.
>
> > Why buy a cheap replacement derailleur (note proper spelling) when you
> > have a perfectly functional high quality one?
>
> If it doesn't shift to all the cogs, it isn't "perfectly functional",
> is it?
But, an RD-1050 *will* shift across an 8sp cassette
>
> And as to the spelling- if it's good enough for country music:http://www.myspace.com/derailers
> it's good enough for me.
>
You said it, I didn't.
> On Apr 17, 7:55 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Apr 17, 7:15 pm, JeffWills <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 16, 1:30 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > On Apr 16, 12:09 pm, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Will an old Shimano RD-1050 or RD-1055 6 speed rear derailleur from the
> > > > > 90s work with an 8 speed cassette using 8 speed index levers?
>
> > > > > Chas.
>
> > > > Yes. Absolutely. I've done this myself (RD-1050).
>
> > > Maybe, maybe not. I tried this many years ago and found that the
> > > derailleur did not have enough travel to reach the large cog. It
> > > depends on the thickness of the deraillrrr hanger and spacing from the
> > > hub, I think.
>
> > IME, with 'normal' 8sp spacing (Shimano cassette hub), it works fine.
> > Did you back the "L" limit screw out?
>
> Yep... even then I had 15 years' experience working on all sorts of
> bicycles. The chain would *barely* make the shift to the big cog, then
> shift to the second cog with the least provocation. I may have had an
> extra-thick derailing-thingy hanger, though.
It must have been quite thick. Or, perhaps something else was at play?
>
> > > The indexing should work, though.
>
> > > With new 8-speed derailers (note homage to Sheldon) starting at $10
> > > from Nashbar, I think you're better off getting a new shifting thingy
> > > anyway.
>
> > Why buy a cheap replacement derailleur (note proper spelling) when you
> > have a perfectly functional high quality one?
>
> If it doesn't shift to all the cogs, it isn't "perfectly functional",
> is it?
But, an RD-1050 *will* shift across an 8sp cassette
>
> And as to the spelling- if it's good enough for country music:http://www.myspace.com/derailers
> it's good enough for me.
>
You said it, I didn't.
M
Michael Press
Guest
In article <[email protected]>,
Tom Sherman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "Derailleur" is an abomination; neither French nor English. Spell the
> word correctly (dérailleur) or use a sensible phonetic English spelling
> (derailer).
>
How do you know that the sensible English speling
does not have two ells?
--
Michael Press
Tom Sherman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "Derailleur" is an abomination; neither French nor English. Spell the
> word correctly (dérailleur) or use a sensible phonetic English spelling
> (derailer).
>
How do you know that the sensible English speling
does not have two ells?
--
Michael Press
L
landotter
Guest
On Apr 18, 9:29 pm, Tom Sherman
> a sensible phonetic English spelling
> (derailer).
>
Is that how thay spel it in yur nayborhood?T
> a sensible phonetic English spelling
> (derailer).
>
Is that how thay spel it in yur nayborhood?T
T
Tom Sherman
Guest
Ozark Bicycle wrote:
> On Apr 18, 9:29 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>> "Derailleur" is an abomination; neither French nor English. Spell the
>> word correctly (dérailleur) or use a sensible phonetic English spelling
>> (derailer).
>>
>
> Is the rod you have up your ass wood, steel or CFRP?
>
Since it is an acronym for Above Seat Steering, "ASS" should be in all
capital letters. All of the ASS assemblies on my bicycles are tubular
steel or aluminium alloy, with no wooden core.
>
> Loosen up, Tommy, it's a drag to die a virgin.......
So Zarkie, when are you going to NYC to visit JFT?
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
> On Apr 18, 9:29 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>> "Derailleur" is an abomination; neither French nor English. Spell the
>> word correctly (dérailleur) or use a sensible phonetic English spelling
>> (derailer).
>>
>
> Is the rod you have up your ass wood, steel or CFRP?
>
Since it is an acronym for Above Seat Steering, "ASS" should be in all
capital letters. All of the ASS assemblies on my bicycles are tubular
steel or aluminium alloy, with no wooden core.
>
> Loosen up, Tommy, it's a drag to die a virgin.......
So Zarkie, when are you going to NYC to visit JFT?
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
T
Tom Sherman
Guest
landotter wrote:
> On Apr 18, 9:29 pm, Tom Sherman
>
>> a sensible phonetic English spelling
>> (derailer).
>>
>
> Is that how thay spel it in yur nayborhood?T
>
If it was good enough for Sheldon, it works for me.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
> On Apr 18, 9:29 pm, Tom Sherman
>
>> a sensible phonetic English spelling
>> (derailer).
>>
>
> Is that how thay spel it in yur nayborhood?T
>
If it was good enough for Sheldon, it works for me.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
T
Tom Sherman
Guest
Michael Press wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Tom Sherman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "Derailleur" is an abomination; neither French nor English. Spell the
>> word correctly (dérailleur) or use a sensible phonetic English spelling
>> (derailer).
>>
>
> How do you know that the sensible English speling
> does not have two ells?
>
The extra "l" would be redundant.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Tom Sherman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "Derailleur" is an abomination; neither French nor English. Spell the
>> word correctly (dérailleur) or use a sensible phonetic English spelling
>> (derailer).
>>
>
> How do you know that the sensible English speling
> does not have two ells?
>
The extra "l" would be redundant.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
