George Galloway



The dole situation ended pretty early but I think it was only late into my 4 year stint that housing was finished too. Actually, I recall at the time I had this real craze on tropical fish and had several fresh water and marine tanks in my flat. So, I took a job in a night-club to supplement my income.
But what I'm trying to get across to you is the fact student debt simply wasn't an issue. It was the Labour Party that screwed up free education and the reasons are simple.
Basically you can't maintain a high standard of living in an over-populated country and the U.K. is plain and simply over-populated, due to Labour policy that immigration should be without fixed limit.
There is no real comparison between huge countries like the U.S., Australia and a small island. Under Labour high immigration (triggered by greed and a desire to opt out of minimum wage legislation through sweat shop production) has sent the population heading towards 70 million in a country far far smaller than Spain, yet with a considerably higher population. This is why pensions, welfare, educational and living standards are lower over here than you would find in, say, Spain or France. This is also why pollution and over-crowded roads are so evident.
The thing is, New Labour has brainwashed the population into believing they represent some kind of socialist ideal and when they introduce right-wing policies, it's considered O.K. But can you imagine how the reaction would have been if the Tories had:
(1) Drawn up a constitutional reform making it a criminal offence to criticize religion in the name of secular ideals.
(2) Lied over the reasons for going to war and insulted the French over their opposition to it.
(3) Scrapped state educational funding.
(4) Created a cheap labour sub-economy by exploiting migrants.
(5) Threatened to split the families of asylum seekers and take their kids into care.
(6) Threatening to withdraw social security from handicapped people whom they label as scroungers.

darkboong said:
Hmm, were you studying in Scotland ? The Dole thing was definitely verboten in England by '91.
 
Carrera said:
The dole situation ended pretty early but I think it was only late into my 4 year stint that housing was finished too. Actually, I recall at the time I had this real craze on tropical fish and had several fresh water and marine tanks in my flat. So, I took a job in a night-club to supplement my income.
But what I'm trying to get across to you is the fact student debt simply wasn't an issue. It was the Labour Party that screwed up free education and the reasons are simple.
Basically you can't maintain a high standard of living in an over-populated country and the U.K. is plain and simply over-populated, due to Labour policy that immigration should be without fixed limit.
There is no real comparison between huge countries like the U.S., Australia and a small island. Under Labour high immigration (triggered by greed and a desire to opt out of minimum wage legislation through sweat shop production) has sent the population heading towards 70 million in a country far far smaller than Spain, yet with a considerably higher population. This is why pensions, welfare, educational and living standards are lower over here than you would find in, say, Spain or France. This is also why pollution and over-crowded roads are so evident.
The thing is, New Labour has brainwashed the population into believing they represent some kind of socialist ideal and when they introduce right-wing policies, it's considered O.K. But can you imagine how the reaction would have been if the Tories had:
(1) Drawn up a constitutional reform making it a criminal offence to criticize religion in the name of secular ideals.
(2) Lied over the reasons for going to war and insulted the French over their opposition to it.
(3) Scrapped state educational funding.
(4) Created a cheap labour sub-economy by exploiting migrants.
(5) Threatened to split the families of asylum seekers and take their kids into care.
(6) Threatening to withdraw social security from handicapped people whom they label as scroungers.
stinking up the place again I see....
 
Zapper, do you recall the "2-bit web translator" Diablo Scott discovered you were using to speak Spanish.
Plug another one:
Vete a tomar por el c--o! :eek:

zapper said:
stinking up the place again I see....
 
Carrera said:
Zapper, do you recall the "2-bit web translator" Diablo Scott discovered you were using to speak Spanish.
Plug another one:
Vete a tomar por el c--o! :eek:
Hey, I tried the "4-bit" version and it spit out: "Prior to reading Carrera's posts, apply a clothespin to your nostrils"...
 
Do you normally copy Fred C's phrases word-for-word? You two should set up a ventriliquist dummy act and maybe Fred can get you to say "gottle a geer" without his lips moving and drinking a glass of water simultaneously.
Come on Zapper, be original and don't just regurgitate everything Fred comes up with.

zapper said:
Hey, I tried the "4-bit" version and it spit out: "Prior to reading Carrera's posts, apply a clothespin to your nostrils"...
 
Carrera said:
Do you normally copy Fred C's phrases word-for-word? You two should set up a ventriliquist dummy act and maybe Fred can get you to say "gottle a geer" without his lips moving and drinking a glass of water simultaneously.
Come on Zapper, be original and don't just regurgitate everything Fred comes up with.
Sorry crapera, Fred is correct on this one and if I repeated something "word for word" as you say, well then...have you ever thought that it is true, that your posts really do stink??? Nice try though... But by the way, I don't recall Fred C using the clothes pin routine on you...
 
Maybe Diablo Scott will appreciate a very subtle refinement to her excellent advice dished out on the Pollyglot thread:
Ke te pires: (que te vayas de ese sitio o lugar). :)




zapper said:
Hey, I tried the "4-bit" version and it spit out: "Prior to reading Carrera's posts, apply a clothespin to your nostrils"...
 
You're getting yourself into a pickle here as this argument is a bit like saying "I didn't tell the motorist to take a hike because Fred said that but I actually told the driver to get lost."


zapper said:
Sorry crapera, Fred is correct on this one and if I repeated something "word for word" as you say, well then...have you ever thought that it is true, that your posts really do stink??? Nice try though... But by the way, I don't recall Fred C using the clothes pin routine on you...
 
Carrera said:
You're getting yourself into a pickle here as this argument is a bit like saying "I didn't tell the motorist to take a hike because Fred said that but I actually told the driver to get lost."
There is no argument, it is a fact...Your posts stink, FredC was right and the more you post the more you prove his point. Take a look at that pathetic thread you started....You didn't even bother to make sure your quotes were accurate. Hell, I hate to say this but even booger knows you are a fraud....
 
The quotations are accurate. Some of those quotations appeared on the national news over here at the time and I assure you I'm not making anything up.
As for Fred, where does he stand? When I raised a thread on chain gangs not too long ago, Fred came out and backed up you and Colorado Rider, saying my views on crime were wishy-washy and too liberal. The fact is Fred will side with anybody basically on the basis of personal prejudice as opposed to direct analysis. He's insulted others on this forum, not just me as it happens and I'm sure I could dig up a few juicy quotations. I even heard some folks wanted him banned from the forum (by his own admission some months back) so he can't be quite so popular as he makes out. :confused:



zapper said:
There is no argument, it is a fact...Your posts stink, FredC was right and the more you post the more you prove his point. Take a look at that pathetic thread you started....You didn't even bother to make sure your quotes were accurate. Hell, I hate to say this but even booger knows you are a fraud....
 
Carrera said:
The quotations are accurate. Some of those quotations appeared on the national news over here at the time and I assure you I'm not making anything up.
As for Fred, where does he stand? When I raised a thread on chain gangs not too long ago, Fred came out and backed up you and Colorado Rider, saying my views on crime were wishy-washy and too liberal. The fact is Fred will side with anybody basically on the basis of personal prejudice as opposed to direct analysis. He's insulted others on this forum, not just me as it happens and I'm sure I could dig up a few juicy quotations. I even heard some folks wanted him banned from the forum (by his own admission some months back) so he can't be quite so popular as he makes out. :confused:
Step right up on the bartop, an' prove. We's all lissenin' with big ears f'ye.
Step right down now sonny, y've sed y'piece.
A never sed that chain gangs were useful f' prisoners, a sed they were useful f' trainin' serious bike racers.
How can y' be Liberal when y'are a Conservative?
A don't side with anyone, a live in ma own house.
Jest what y'doin' on this board lying stinky man?
Well youz jest go and find those quotations.
A don't ever remember being threatened with being banned from the site, can you boys?
OK Barman throw him out, and get the glasses filled.
However, I did say that some idiots wanted me banned from another site, and that will never, ever happen. Because as things are at the moment, the idiots will be banned. Do you know Carrera, you don't know who the ****ing hell I am, and you don't know who Limerickman really is. Most of the good posters on this board know both of us, and we just have a game of knockabout on here. We respect each other. Unfortunately you seem to be a self fabricating charlatan who has no foundation, skills, or honesty. One way or the other on the soapbox we do know each other.
Hey Lim and Zap have a bit going on, but if was Heads Up Texas Hold 'em. I know who the winner would be. Do you?
 
zapper said:
There is no argument, it is a fact...Your posts stink, FredC was right and the more you post the more you prove his point. Take a look at that pathetic thread you started....You didn't even bother to make sure your quotes were accurate. Hell, I hate to say this but even booger knows you are a fraud....
DB is no fool at all, he's smart and accurate, I think he's fed up Carrera ****, and gives him short shrift. Mind you I'm a bit worried about his Dads 1000 Helium inflatable sheep, and there whereabouts these days.
 
Sure, you don't know me from Adam and that's cool. But does Lim know Darkboom or Darkboom know Lim? Do you know Dave MC? Does Colorado rider know Zapper? Surely not!
I don't know the answers to those questions.
You may find out who I am, though, if my entrance to the Big Brother House succeeds. Then, you can hear more of me and actually get to see me as well.


FredC said:
Step right up on the bartop, an' prove. We's all lissenin' with big ears f'ye.
Step right down now sonny, y've sed y'piece.
A never sed that chain gangs were useful f' prisoners, a sed they were useful f' trainin' serious bike racers.
How can y' be Liberal when y'are a Conservative?
A don't side with anyone, a live in ma own house.
Jest what y'doin' on this board lying stinky man?
Well youz jest go and find those quotations.
A don't ever remember being threatened with being banned from the site, can you boys?
OK Barman throw him out, and get the glasses filled.
However, I did say that some idiots wanted me banned from another site, and that will never, ever happen. Because as things are at the moment, the idiots will be banned. Do you know Carrera, you don't know who the ****ing hell I am, and you don't know who Limerickman really is. Most of the good posters on this board know both of us, and we just have a game of knockabout on here. We respect each other. Unfortunately you seem to be a self fabricating charlatan who has no foundation, skills, or honesty. One way or the other on the soapbox we do know each other.
Hey Lim and Zap have a bit going on, but if was Heads Up Texas Hold 'em. I know who the winner would be. Do you?
 
FredC said:
DB is no fool at all, he's smart and accurate, I think he's fed up Carrera ****, and gives him short shrift.

Actually I don't mind Carrera much. I misjudged him badly when I first tripped over his posts. I still think he's horribly deluded about the true nature of the Conservative party, but he has contributed some fair points and he takes a battering with more dignity than I do. :)

Fair play to the lad, but I'm not gonna start going easy on his politics !

There is some hope for Carrera. OTOH Flappy should be volunteering his thick skull as a test subject for the RNEP.
 
FredC said:
Mind you I'm a bit worried about his Dads 1000 Helium inflatable sheep, and there whereabouts these days.

You can rest easy, they have been mothballed. The RAF have ceased to fly down my home valley, the threat was enough.
 
darkboong said:
You can rest easy, they have been mothballed. The RAF have ceased to fly down my home valley, the threat was enough.
Helium-filled sheep were actually banned in New Zealand as it was seen to be giving them an unfair advantage.
 
darkboong said:
Actually I don't mind Carrera much. I misjudged him badly when I first tripped over his posts. I still think he's horribly deluded about the true nature of the Conservative party, but he has contributed some fair points and he takes a battering with more dignity than I do. :)

Fair play to the lad, but I'm not gonna start going easy on his politics !

There is some hope for Carrera. OTOH Flappy should be volunteering his thick skull as a test subject for the RNEP.
Carerra does contribute topics for discussion although frequently in "novella" form. To each hissown. Belly up to the bar now.