Today's walk (urw)



Chris Hill wrote:

> In message <[email protected]>, Charlie King
> <[email protected]> writes

> >One can only infer that it doesn't involve weeding out slimey little
> >toerags who are willing to sell out their country, regiment, squadron
> >and their comrades who continue to serve in exchange for a fast buck
> >at Waterstones -
>
> You're trying to tell us something here, I can sense it.
>
> >despite having signed a contract not to do so.
>
> I think those contracts came in post-McNabb/Ryan.

Yebbut surely the aforementioned signed the Official Secrets Act?
 
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:28:16 +0000, in
<[email protected]> (uk.rec.walking) Chris Hill
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I think those contracts came in post-McNabb/Ryan.

As I understand it, the non-disclosures have always existed but the
process of prosecuting the likes of McNabb would potentially do even
more damage, and be more costly, than simply cleaning up his mess
after him.

No doubt things have been tightened up a bit since.
--
Charlie
 
[email protected] said...
> In message <[email protected]>, Fran
> <[email protected]> writes
> >[email protected] said...
> >> In message <[email protected]>, Fran
> >> <[email protected]> writes
> >> >[email protected] said...
> >> >> >You should have come to south Wales. It's not been too bad here today.
> >> >>
> >> >> I wouldn't mind, actually. I fancy walking the infamous "Fan Dance" some
> >> >> time.
> >> >>
> >> >Infamous?
> >>
> >> If you ever read any of the "SAS insider" type books you'll see "The Fan
> >> Dance" described as part of their selection process.
> >>
> >Oh, I see. Well, I haven't read any of those books, but I probably get
> >the picture. Is that the one where the poor sods are left out on their
> >own to sink or swim in the middle of (apparently) nowhere with nothing
> >more than a Swiss army knife and a couple of bits of dwarf bread?
>
> Yes - with the added bonus of being chased by infantry who are
> "incentivized" by the prospect of extra leave if they manage to catch
> one.

Incentivized? Ick. But apart from that, what are the infantrymen
supposed to do if they manage to catch one? Eat it?

> I wouldn't call them "poor sods" though, as they're all volunteers.
>
True, but I wonder how many get half way through and wish they'd never
had such a daft idea?
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In message <[email protected]>, Fran
<[email protected]> writes
>[email protected] said...
>> In message <[email protected]>, Fran
>> <[email protected]> writes
>> >[email protected] said...
>> >> In message <[email protected]>, Fran
>> >> <[email protected]> writes
>> >> >[email protected] said...
>> >> >> >You should have come to south Wales. It's not been too bad
>> >> >> >here today.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I wouldn't mind, actually. I fancy walking the infamous "Fan
>> >> >>Dance" some
>> >> >> time.
>> >> >>
>> >> >Infamous?
>> >>
>> >> If you ever read any of the "SAS insider" type books you'll see "The Fan
>> >> Dance" described as part of their selection process.
>> >>
>> >Oh, I see. Well, I haven't read any of those books, but I probably get
>> >the picture. Is that the one where the poor sods are left out on their
>> >own to sink or swim in the middle of (apparently) nowhere with nothing
>> >more than a Swiss army knife and a couple of bits of dwarf bread?
>>
>> Yes - with the added bonus of being chased by infantry who are
>> "incentivized" by the prospect of extra leave if they manage to catch
>> one.
>
>Incentivized? Ick.

Yeah. I know. I couldn't think of a better word at the time.

>But apart from that, what are the infantrymen
>supposed to do if they manage to catch one? Eat it?

No, I think they just get roughed up a bit and either returned to the
exercise or fail the course. Can't remember which.

>> I wouldn't call them "poor sods" though, as they're all volunteers.
>>
>True, but I wonder how many get half way through and wish they'd never
>had such a daft idea?

Probably very few. (According to the books) it requires a great deal of
preparation and commitment to get beyond even the first day or two.
Anyone making it half-way through is likely to be serious, will have put
a lot of preparation in and will likely be devastated at having failed.
Plus there's the fact that they only have two chances to pass.
--
Chris Hill
 
[email protected] said...
> >> Yes - with the added bonus of being chased by infantry who are
> >> "incentivized" by the prospect of extra leave if they manage to catch
> >> one.
> >
> >Incentivized? Ick.
>
> Yeah. I know. I couldn't think of a better word at the time.
>
Oops sorry, I thought you were quoting from elsewhere.
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:37:17 +0000, Chris Hill wrote...

> >Incentivized? Ick.
>
> Yeah. I know. I couldn't think of a better word at the time.

And after all, there's no noun that cannot be verbised... :)

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In message <[email protected]>, Tim
Jackson <[email protected]> writes
>
>On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:37:17 +0000, Chris Hill wrote...
>
>> >Incentivized? Ick.
>>
>> Yeah. I know. I couldn't think of a better word at the time.
>
>And after all, there's no noun that cannot be verbised... :)
>
At least you did not Americanize it with a zee.

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[email protected] said...
> In message <[email protected]>, Tim
> Jackson <[email protected]> writes
> >
> >On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:37:17 +0000, Chris Hill wrote...
> >
> >> >Incentivized? Ick.
> >>
> >> Yeah. I know. I couldn't think of a better word at the time.
> >
> >And after all, there's no noun that cannot be verbised... :)
> >
> At least you did not Americanize it with a zee.
>
Aaarghhh!

My children have been watching too many American films or cartoons or
something; that, or their friends have. I'm fighting a losing battle to
persuade them that we have a zed rather than a zee - but they're not
convinced. Oh, world :-(

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"Chris Hill" <[email protected]> wrote

> >> If you ever read any of the "SAS insider" type books you'll see "The
> >> Fan Dance" described as part of their selection process.

> >Do you know what it involves exactly?

> Only what I've read in books and seen on TV. There are good descriptions
> in Bravo Two Zero and Immediate Action.

Ok, for anyone else interested I'll answer my own question. Quoting from
internet sources:

"The fan dance is done carrying a 32 pound bergen over a route of 24km. I
would advice you to take a load made up of essential items such as food,
water, warm clothing, first aid kit, ETC. Start at the Storey arms mountain
rescue centre, (there is parking space available). From the Storey arms move
up the fan to Pen Y Fan, down and around the Cribyn, and along the Roman
road until the roman road ends and becomes a minor road near Torpantau. (GR
035 174) (Landranger map, sheet No 160). Then turn round and do the reverse
route"

Tougher apparently is the "Long Drag".

" 'Endurance,' or 'Long Drag' is a real *****. All I can say is of you made
it this far it is worth putting your all into this final march. You have to
walk 40 miles over the Brecon Beacons with a 55lb bergen in 20 hours. You
will start around midnight with little or no sleep between the previous
day's march and Endurance. Sleep on the truck if you can, every little
helps. Typical route: "

Start point Road Junction Grid 080 260
RV1 Track Junction Grid 034 182
RV2 Fan Fawr Grid 964 189
RV3 Trig-point 603 Grid 913 216
RV4 Road Track Junction Grid 868 193
RV5 Ystradfelle Reservoir Grid 944 073
RV6 Road Bridge Grid 995 164
RV7 Track Junction Grid 034 183
Finish point Grid 080 260
 
In message <[email protected]>, Tim
Jackson <[email protected]> writes
>
>On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:37:17 +0000, Chris Hill wrote...
>
>> >Incentivized? Ick.
>>
>> Yeah. I know. I couldn't think of a better word at the time.
>
>And after all, there's no noun that cannot be verbised... :)

"Verbing weirds words".
--
Chris Hill
 
Tim Jackson wrote:

> And after all, there's no noun that cannot be verbised... :)

....and Shakespear was the original expert.

Chris
 
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