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On Jul 24, 10:28 pm, Zoot Katz <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 01:30:40 GMT, still me <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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> >On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:14:48 -0700, N8N <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >> Remember that a lot of
> >>guidelines were laid down when the average vehicle was rolling on
> >>6.70-15 bias plys and had four wheel drum brakes.
>
> >But remember also that most people have been driving 20 feet off the
> >rear bumper of other cars at 70mph on the highway since the bias ply
> >days and still do. In an emergency, that's the difference between dead
> >and deader.
>
> >While stopping distances and such have decreased, most people don't
> >know, never did, and never will drive within whatever the handling
> >limits of their vehicle are. Most of them don't even understand what a
> >"good handling" car is compared to a "poor handling" car unless you
> >have them drive the two back to back. The only thing better handling
> >and smaller, faster stopping cars have done for the average joe is to
> >help him out when he panics and maybe save his butt with superior
> >performance for a few seconds when it counts - but it has nothing to
> >do with average joe realizing what the car will do.
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> The average joe counts on his air bags to save his butt these days.
>
> "Road Safety" to cagers is all about their own post-crash survival.
> --
> zk
I agree with that statement 100%. (see, I don't always bust your
balls.) I shake my head at people who look at my little 944 and ask
me how I can drive such an "unsafe" vehicle when it likely handles and
brakes (but accelerate, eh, not so much) orders of magnitude better
than whatever they drive. I don't know and don't really care how it
would fare in a crash, because I'd rather avoid it altogether.
However, a simple survey of radio, TV, and/or print ads touting the
safety features of various new cars will show that passive safety is
what is being pushed (and presumably what the majority of consumers
are looking for) while only a few manufacturers are touting active
safety features, Subaru being one that immediately comes to mind.
nate
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 01:30:40 GMT, still me <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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> >On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:14:48 -0700, N8N <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> Remember that a lot of
> >>guidelines were laid down when the average vehicle was rolling on
> >>6.70-15 bias plys and had four wheel drum brakes.
>
> >But remember also that most people have been driving 20 feet off the
> >rear bumper of other cars at 70mph on the highway since the bias ply
> >days and still do. In an emergency, that's the difference between dead
> >and deader.
>
> >While stopping distances and such have decreased, most people don't
> >know, never did, and never will drive within whatever the handling
> >limits of their vehicle are. Most of them don't even understand what a
> >"good handling" car is compared to a "poor handling" car unless you
> >have them drive the two back to back. The only thing better handling
> >and smaller, faster stopping cars have done for the average joe is to
> >help him out when he panics and maybe save his butt with superior
> >performance for a few seconds when it counts - but it has nothing to
> >do with average joe realizing what the car will do.
>
> The average joe counts on his air bags to save his butt these days.
>
> "Road Safety" to cagers is all about their own post-crash survival.
> --
> zk
I agree with that statement 100%. (see, I don't always bust your
balls.) I shake my head at people who look at my little 944 and ask
me how I can drive such an "unsafe" vehicle when it likely handles and
brakes (but accelerate, eh, not so much) orders of magnitude better
than whatever they drive. I don't know and don't really care how it
would fare in a crash, because I'd rather avoid it altogether.
However, a simple survey of radio, TV, and/or print ads touting the
safety features of various new cars will show that passive safety is
what is being pushed (and presumably what the majority of consumers
are looking for) while only a few manufacturers are touting active
safety features, Subaru being one that immediately comes to mind.
nate
