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Franz Bestuchev
Guest
I've read about the "customer oriented" decision that Shimano made and
enforced in order to shut down the OEM markets. I've personally always
felt the "quality merchant and 30 day warranty" kind of policy is a good
thing to have for those who know enough to do the work themselves.
The DIY computer world has a very similar kind of market. Usually the
same warranty, but a white box and none of the bundled software worth
"over $500!"
So I now have some decisions to make regarding my intentions to to move
away from Shimano components - having been rudely woken up to the way
they're doing business.
Here's the parts I was thinking (and suggested for) building/replacing
with and then the cost the LBS had given me on those parts.
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I'm looking for starters to build a rear wheel:
*Mavic Open Pro Rim*, black, 36°
-$70
*Campagnolo Centaur Rear Hub*, told that the only difference between
this hub and the Veloce is the material from which the quick release
skewer is made as well as a resin/plastic cover on the non-drive side.
I'm not counting grams (or labels) - but unless their plastic has a
pretty good reputation for not going funny in the cold/or old age...it
saves me $30
-$149 (or $180)
*Spokes* minimal, $0.70 each...DT 14/15G double butted
-as expected
*BUILD COST* They've a very well known shop for their wheel build
quality...but *$50*...I'm not a wealthy man, I've got a lot of medical
bills to pay (not related to the crash for which these parts are needed
to repair) the woman who clocked me and initiated this shopping spree
simply drove off.
-$50...sigh?
_______
Shifting/Drivetrain
The original 105 STI levers are busted bad, BOTH. They'll be tossed.
*Campagnolo Veloce (invoice says "VEL") ERGO levers, 10sp* I had asked
to be quoted for the Centaur levers as the difference was explained to
me that it was essentially just weight and a strategic knock-out on one
of the levers.
-$189 (I forget the other cost)
*Centaur Long-Cage (Med/Long) Rear Derailler - 10sp* Any reason for
Veloce or anything better quality? I can't imagine so.
-$139
*Veloce Cassette 10sp , either 12-23 or 12-25* This suites me fine, I
had been running a 12-25 just fine!
-$89
*Campagnolo "CA VEL" 10sp Chain* It makes sense to me that I'd need a
Campy chain...but the price for a chain seems REALLY, REALLY high.
-$44
Installing this myself is not problem.
_______
So are these good prices, or is my LBS taking me for a sucker? Are they
tossing MSRP at me?
GAH! I just want to get myself back out in the rolling hills. My
commuter is a great bike to ride but it's not what I want when it's a
gorgeous saturday.
Thanks for reading all this...helping me move away from this Japanese
outfit with which I'd never had to deal with on such an expensive level.
enforced in order to shut down the OEM markets. I've personally always
felt the "quality merchant and 30 day warranty" kind of policy is a good
thing to have for those who know enough to do the work themselves.
The DIY computer world has a very similar kind of market. Usually the
same warranty, but a white box and none of the bundled software worth
"over $500!"
So I now have some decisions to make regarding my intentions to to move
away from Shimano components - having been rudely woken up to the way
they're doing business.
Here's the parts I was thinking (and suggested for) building/replacing
with and then the cost the LBS had given me on those parts.
_______
I'm looking for starters to build a rear wheel:
*Mavic Open Pro Rim*, black, 36°
-$70
*Campagnolo Centaur Rear Hub*, told that the only difference between
this hub and the Veloce is the material from which the quick release
skewer is made as well as a resin/plastic cover on the non-drive side.
I'm not counting grams (or labels) - but unless their plastic has a
pretty good reputation for not going funny in the cold/or old age...it
saves me $30
-$149 (or $180)
*Spokes* minimal, $0.70 each...DT 14/15G double butted
-as expected
*BUILD COST* They've a very well known shop for their wheel build
quality...but *$50*...I'm not a wealthy man, I've got a lot of medical
bills to pay (not related to the crash for which these parts are needed
to repair) the woman who clocked me and initiated this shopping spree
simply drove off.
-$50...sigh?
_______
Shifting/Drivetrain
The original 105 STI levers are busted bad, BOTH. They'll be tossed.
*Campagnolo Veloce (invoice says "VEL") ERGO levers, 10sp* I had asked
to be quoted for the Centaur levers as the difference was explained to
me that it was essentially just weight and a strategic knock-out on one
of the levers.
-$189 (I forget the other cost)
*Centaur Long-Cage (Med/Long) Rear Derailler - 10sp* Any reason for
Veloce or anything better quality? I can't imagine so.
-$139
*Veloce Cassette 10sp , either 12-23 or 12-25* This suites me fine, I
had been running a 12-25 just fine!
-$89
*Campagnolo "CA VEL" 10sp Chain* It makes sense to me that I'd need a
Campy chain...but the price for a chain seems REALLY, REALLY high.
-$44
Installing this myself is not problem.
_______
So are these good prices, or is my LBS taking me for a sucker? Are they
tossing MSRP at me?
GAH! I just want to get myself back out in the rolling hills. My
commuter is a great bike to ride but it's not what I want when it's a
gorgeous saturday.
Thanks for reading all this...helping me move away from this Japanese
outfit with which I'd never had to deal with on such an expensive level.