Cleaning Michelin Pro Race yellow side walls

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  1. My bike is equiped with Michelin Pro Race with yellow side walls. I was wondering what others uses
    to clean them when the yellow walls gets darker with dirt from the road. I have a good idea what I
    can use, but I fear the long term effect on the rubber.

    Regards

    Bernard Durand
     
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  2. On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 12:27:52 GMT, Bernard Durand wrote:
    >I was wondering what others uses to clean them when the yellow walls gets darker with dirt from
    >the road.

    I use a rainy training ride. It also works wonders on jerseys that have become too pale
    from washing.
     
  3. Jtn

    Jtn Guest

  4. Shabby

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    I think everyone cleans their bikes, but most people concentrate on the moving parts and metal parts, so that the bike stays in good working order and doesn't rust. Anything else is a bit obsessive compulsive.

    If I was to clean tyres, which I won't be doing, I'd use a liquid dishwashing detergent. Anything solvent based is going to attack the rubber.
     
  5. Mike S.

    Mike S. Guest

    I think this falls under the category of "why bother?" Go ride, don't worry about the sidewalls of
    your tires, or the underside of your saddle, or...

    Mike "Bernard Durand" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > I take JTN, you never bother to clean your bike. Good for you, I clean mine.
    >
    > Cheers
    >
    > Bernard
    >
    > "JTN" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > "Bernard Durand" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Michelin Pro Race with yellow side walls. clean them Bernard Durand
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > > are you for real?
    > >
    >
     
  6. Jtn

    Jtn Guest

    why clean it. i just buy a new one every year once the chain gets stretched out from wind resistance
    while riding on top of my car.
     
  7. On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:16:49 -0800, Mike S. wrote:
    >I think this falls under the category of "why bother?" Go ride, don't =
    worry
    >about the sidewalls of your tires, or the underside of your saddle, =
    or...

    Actually, if we're going to be serious, I think it does matter sometimes. It's important to get to
    the starting line very well-groomed because that's half of the race won. You will have super morale
    and the others will be impressed. Of course this has to be backed up by results or else you will not
    be taken seriously next time.

    =46or cleaning the tyres, use some acetose (vinegar?) based cleaning
    fluid on a cloth. Paint thinner works too, and a lot faster and brighter, but you'll have a layer of
    rubber left on the cloth.
     
  8. Mike S.

    Mike S. Guest

    "Ewoud Dronkert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]... On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:16:49 -0800,
    Mike S. wrote:
    >I think this falls under the category of "why bother?" Go ride, don't
    worry
    >about the sidewalls of your tires, or the underside of your saddle, or...

    Actually, if we're going to be serious, I think it does matter sometimes. It's important to get to
    the starting line very well-groomed because that's half of the race won. You will have super morale
    and the others will be impressed. Of course this has to be backed up by results or else you will not
    be taken seriously next time.

    I've run across several guys that are so obsessive about cleaning their bikes over the years that I
    just HAVE to laugh at them. One guy actually told me (with a straight face, and in all seriousness)
    "I don't understand why everyone has such a dirty bike. It only takes 20-25min per day to make sure
    everything is clean."

    I've ridden with another guy in the DC area that actually keeps a paper towel under his saddle for
    times when he's sweating on the TT. Gotta wipe that off before it rusts my AL bike...

    The nice thing about guys like these are that they're the best to buy things from. Their gear is
    never worn out, barely used, not dirty, and usually pretty cheap 'cause they're getting ready to
    upgrade to the newest/bestest widget.

    Mike

    For cleaning the tyres, use some acetose (vinegar?) based cleaning fluid on a cloth. Paint thinner
    works too, and a lot faster and brighter, but you'll have a layer of rubber left on the cloth.
     
  9. Yellow magic marker.

    Mark VandenBerghe

    Jacky's brother, "Bernard Durand" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:7%[email protected]...
    > I take JTN, you never bother to clean your bike. Good for you, I clean mine.
    >
    > Cheers
    >
    > Bernard "JTN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > "Bernard Durand" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Michelin Pro Race with yellow side walls. clean them Bernard Durand
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > > are you for real?
    > >
    >
     
  10. Bernard

    Bernard Guest

    > "Ewoud Dronkert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]... On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:16:49 -0800, Mike
    > S. wrote:
    > >I think this falls under the category of "why bother?" Go ride, don't
    > worry
    > >about the sidewalls of your tires, or the underside of your saddle, or...
    >
    > Actually, if we're going to be serious, I think it does matter sometimes. It's important to get to
    > the starting line very well-groomed because that's half of the race won. You will have super
    > morale and the others will be impressed. Of course this has to be backed up by results or else you
    > will not be taken seriously next time.
    >
    > I've run across several guys that are so obsessive about cleaning their bikes over the years
    > that I just HAVE to laugh at them. One guy actually told me (with a straight face, and in all
    > seriousness) "I don't understand why everyone has such a dirty bike. It only takes 20-25min
    > per day to
    make
    > sure everything is clean."
    >
    > I've ridden with another guy in the DC area that actually keeps a paper towel under his saddle for
    > times when he's sweating on the TT. Gotta wipe that off before it rusts my AL bike...
    >
    > The nice thing about guys like these are that they're the best to buy
    things
    > from. Their gear is never worn out, barely used, not dirty, and usually pretty cheap 'cause
    > they're getting ready to upgrade to the newest/bestest widget.

    And I suppose I am one of them. I never keep a pair of speakers more then 6 months to a year at
    most. Why do I do that? Because I can and I am therefore selling something that is almost new to
    some else who is also looking to upgrade.

    You know, I asked the question about cleaning my yellow wall on this newsgroup, and I got the exact
    answer a good friend who told me, looking to good on a bike is not cool. Before the frame on my bike
    got changed (crackling frame) I had a small scratch and I was bothered by it. She explained how a
    new bike or a person that is attire too perfectly is not a good thing in the eyes of others!

    Just like the world of high-end audio, there is always someone who is ready to shit on others, while
    on the flip side, others are just glad to help another enthusiasm cyclist or be a future audiophile,
    perfecting is hobby.

    I trust that guys that don't clean their bikes don't bother cleaning cars or pass the vacuum inside
    the house? That would not be cool.

    Cheers

    Bernard
     
  11. Robert Chung

    Robert Chung Guest

    "Bernard" <[email protected]_ME_F!RST.com> wrote
    >
    > I trust that guys that don't clean their bikes don't bother cleaning cars
    or
    > pass the vacuum inside the house?

    You clean your car and vacuum your house? Sweet mother of Jesus, does the madness never end?
     
  12. "Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Bernard" <[email protected]_ME_F!RST.com> wrote
    > >
    > > I trust that guys that don't clean their bikes don't bother cleaning
    cars
    > or
    > > pass the vacuum inside the house?
    >
    > You clean your car and vacuum your house? Sweet mother of Jesus, does the madness never end?
    >
    >
    Better yet, I manage to spin 6 days a week, do laundry and yet, I still run my business.

    ;-) It is all part of time management.

    Looking at the great pictures on the website of http://www.kenpapai.com/racing/sf2001/ I really need
    to out more often; which I plan to do this summer. Great pics

    Regards

    Bernard
     
  13. Mike S.

    Mike S. Guest

    "Bernard" <[email protected]_ME_F!RST.com> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    >
    >
    > > "Ewoud Dronkert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]... On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:16:49 -0800,
    > > Mike S. wrote:
    > > >I think this falls under the category of "why bother?" Go ride, don't
    > > worry
    > > >about the sidewalls of your tires, or the underside of your saddle,
    or...
    > >
    > > Actually, if we're going to be serious, I think it does matter sometimes. It's important to get
    > > to the starting line very well-groomed because that's half of the race won. You will have super
    > > morale and the others will be impressed. Of course this has to be backed up by results or else
    > > you will not be taken seriously next time.
    > >
    > > I've run across several guys that are so obsessive about cleaning their bikes over the years
    > > that I just HAVE to laugh at them. One guy
    actually
    > > told me (with a straight face, and in all seriousness) "I don't
    understand
    > > why everyone has such a dirty bike. It only takes 20-25min per day to
    > make
    > > sure everything is clean."
    > >
    > > I've ridden with another guy in the DC area that actually keeps a paper towel under his saddle
    > > for times when he's sweating on the TT. Gotta
    wipe
    > > that off before it rusts my AL bike...
    > >
    > > The nice thing about guys like these are that they're the best to buy
    > things
    > > from. Their gear is never worn out, barely used, not dirty, and usually pretty cheap 'cause
    > > they're getting ready to upgrade to the
    newest/bestest
    > > widget.
    >
    > And I suppose I am one of them. I never keep a pair of speakers more then
    6
    > months to a year at most. Why do I do that? Because I can and I am therefore selling something
    > that is almost new to some else who is also looking to upgrade.
    >
    >
    >
    > You know, I asked the question about cleaning my yellow wall on this newsgroup, and I got the
    > exact answer a good friend who told me, looking
    to
    > good on a bike is not cool. Before the frame on my bike got changed (crackling frame) I had a
    > small scratch and I was bothered by it. She explained how a new bike or a person that is attire
    > too perfectly is not a good thing in the eyes of others!
    >
    >
    >
    > Just like the world of high-end audio, there is always someone who is
    ready
    > to shit on others, while on the flip side, others are just glad to help another enthusiasm cyclist
    > or be a future audiophile, perfecting is hobby.
    >
    >
    >
    > I trust that guys that don't clean their bikes don't bother cleaning cars
    or
    > pass the vacuum inside the house? That would not be cool.
    >
    >
    >
    > Cheers
    >
    >
    >
    > Bernard
    >
    >
    Its not that I/we don't clean our bikes, its just that I/we realize that there are more important
    things to clean than a sidewall of a tire. Keeping the frame and drivetrain clean is enough for me.
    I consider cleaning tires to be over the top, so I don't do it.

    If it is important to you, then by all means knock yourself out.

    Mike
     
  14. Msa

    Msa Guest

    Shabby <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Bernard Durand wrote:
    > > I take JTN, you never bother to clean your bike. Good for you, I clean mine.
    >
    >
    >
    > I think everyone cleans their bikes, but most people concentrate on the moving parts and metal
    > parts, so that the bike stays in good working order and doesn't rust. Anything else is a bit
    > obsessive compulsive.
    >
    > If I was to clean tyres, which I won't be doing, I'd use a liquid dishwashing detergent. Anything
    > solvent based is going to attack the rubber.
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > >--------------------------<
    > Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com

    I've been following this thread at work, couldn't wait to get home and post! Jeez, there's some
    blinkered people out there, can't you respect that people differ!

    I ride approx. 300k per week all year round. I ride for pleasure and I race, I do not commute. After
    every ride I clean down my bike. In the Summer that might mean a 10 second wipe with a dry cloth but
    in the Winter it gets washed down after every ride. On a winter Sunday I might ride 150k, return
    home, wash the bike with soapy water and scrub the tyres. The drivetrain gets cleaned in the process
    too. When the bike is dry I give it a quick wipe with polish I use on my car. Once a month the chain
    comes off, as does the cassette, all is cleaned thoroughly and lubed..I lube the brake pivots and
    the cable at the same time.

    I rode my bike hard, I ride my bike for many hours per week. My bike cost me £3000 (yes I'm in the
    UK), and I'm going to look after it. Cycling is my only real hobby, I get pleasure out of cleaning
    my bike, and riding a clean bike.

    Is that really a problem?

    --
    Mark
    ____________________________
    Practice does not make perfect... Perfect practice makes perfect
     
  15. Shultz

    Shultz Guest

    I must also confess, I clean my bike about once a week and while cleaning I wipe down my tires,
    mainly to get the rims clean so braking doesn't become noisy.

    But I grin at the people who don't clean their bikes and let about 5lbs. of grease,mud and anything
    else hang on the bike. Willing to pay big bucks for the lightest components and frames and then lose
    all of the weight savings in dirt.

    "MSA" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    >
    > Shabby <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > > Bernard Durand wrote:
    > > > I take JTN, you never bother to clean your bike. Good for you, I clean mine.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > I think everyone cleans their bikes, but most people concentrate on the moving parts and metal
    > > parts, so that the bike stays in good working order and doesn't rust. Anything else is a bit
    > > obsessive compulsive.
    > >
    > > If I was to clean tyres, which I won't be doing, I'd use a liquid dishwashing detergent.
    > > Anything solvent based is going to attack the rubber.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > >--------------------------<
    > > Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com
    >
    >
    > I've been following this thread at work, couldn't wait to get home and
    post!
    > Jeez, there's some blinkered people out there, can't you respect that
    people
    > differ!
    >
    > I ride approx. 300k per week all year round. I ride for pleasure and I race, I do not commute.
    > After every ride I clean down my bike. In the Summer that might mean a 10 second wipe with a dry
    > cloth but in the Winter it gets washed down after every ride. On a winter Sunday I might ride
    150k,
    > return home, wash the bike with soapy water and scrub the tyres. The drivetrain gets cleaned in
    > the process too. When the bike is dry I give
    it
    > a quick wipe with polish I use on my car. Once a month the chain comes off, as does the cassette,
    > all is cleaned thoroughly and lubed..I lube the brake pivots and the cable at the same time.
    >
    > I rode my bike hard, I ride my bike for many hours per week. My bike cost me £3000 (yes I'm in the
    > UK), and I'm going to look after it. Cycling is
    my
    > only real hobby, I get pleasure out of cleaning my bike, and riding a
    clean
    > bike.
    >
    > Is that really a problem?
    >
    >
    > --
    > Mark
    > ____________________________
    > Practice does not make perfect... Perfect practice makes perfect
     
  16. Msa

    Msa Guest

    Shultz <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > I must also confess, I clean my bike about once a week and while cleaning
    I
    > wipe down my tires, mainly to get the rims clean so braking doesn't become noisy.
    >
    > But I grin at the people who don't clean their bikes and let about 5lbs.
    of
    > grease,mud and anything else hang on the bike. Willing to pay big bucks
    for
    > the lightest components and frames and then lose all of the weight savings in dirt.
    >

    There are guys like that in my club...their bikes look a pile of shite. It's not a coincidence
    either that their the ones who have all the silly mechanical problems such as bolts working loose
    etc. A big advantage of regularly cleaning a bike is that you get to spot things that are wrong.

    Still I suppose when you ride 10 miles a week, not a lot works loose eh!

    --
    Mark
    ____________________________
    Practice does not make perfect... Perfect practice makes perfect
     
  17. Les

    Les Guest

    MSA, using the address of [email protected], felt it was necessary to post to
    rec.bicycles.racing with the following words of wisdom:

    > my only real hobby, I get pleasure out of cleaning my bike, and riding a clean bike.
    >
    > Is that really a problem?

    No problem at all as far as I am concerned -- My wife and and I call it bike love, gotta spend a
    little time giving the bike some love, that's how she/he develops the soul..... All bikes are good,
    but a good bike with a soul..... well, that's a great bike!

    Les
    >
    >
    > --
    > Mark
    > ____________________________
    > Practice does not make perfect... Perfect practice makes perfect

    --
    remove the "x" if you feel that you must reply to me personally.
     
  18. Jeff Jones

    Jeff Jones Guest

    "MSA" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    >
    > I ride approx. 300k per week all year round. I ride for pleasure and I race, I do not commute.
    > After every ride I clean down my bike. In the Summer that might mean a 10 second wipe with a dry
    > cloth but in the Winter it gets washed down after every ride. On a winter Sunday I might ride
    150k,
    > return home, wash the bike with soapy water and scrub the tyres. The drivetrain gets cleaned in
    > the process too. When the bike is dry I give
    it
    > a quick wipe with polish I use on my car. Once a month the chain comes off, as does the cassette,
    > all is cleaned thoroughly and lubed..I lube the brake pivots and the cable at the same time.
    >
    I'm one of the "non-bike cleaning-if-I-can-avoid-it" people, but I do manage to spend some time
    cleaning all the crap off it once a week (unless raining - then it's a bit more frequent). I don't
    like cleaning it because it takes away valuable riding time :) Those 30 minutes equate to at least
    15 km, and if I'm going to win the Tour one day I'm going to need all the kilometres I can get.

    Parts do wear out more quickly due to lack of cleaning, but that's what product testing is for,
    right? ;-) I do try and take care of the chain/cluster/derailleurs though. I clean the frame too
    sometimes, but that hasn't stopped me breaking five or six frames over the course of 14 years.

    As for tyres, I try not to buy light coloured ones, partly for the same reason that I avoid light
    coloured knicks, which don't even look good on pro's, but that's another topic...

    Now, I wonder why my rear brake has seized?

    cheers, Jeff
     
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