Congrats to Hippy



"paul" <[email protected]
> I just read that. Wow, they are averaging 43kph (is that right?)

http://www.kreuzotter.de/english/espeed.htm
puts me at about 408W (that sounds too high) and
the winner at ~550W assuming he weighed 80kg at
180cm.
But, change my bike to a tri bike and it adds 7kph
onto average speed and takes 4min off my time..
thereby making me the TT winner ;-)
Actually, redo it with me on the drops for the whole
thing and I make ~325W, which sounds more
accurate. If I swap to the tri bike from there I only
get a 2m:30s/4kph advantage, putting me in about
4th place.

I could mess with this site all day.. :)

hippy
 
Interesting page.

I'm not even cracking 200kw from my ride to work :(

hippy wrote:
> "paul" <[email protected]
>> I just read that. Wow, they are averaging 43kph (is that right?)
>
> http://www.kreuzotter.de/english/espeed.htm
> puts me at about 408W (that sounds too high) and
> the winner at ~550W assuming he weighed 80kg at
> 180cm.
> But, change my bike to a tri bike and it adds 7kph
> onto average speed and takes 4min off my time..
> thereby making me the TT winner ;-)
> Actually, redo it with me on the drops for the whole
> thing and I make ~325W, which sounds more
> accurate. If I swap to the tri bike from there I only
> get a 2m:30s/4kph advantage, putting me in about
> 4th place.
>
> I could mess with this site all day.. :)
>
> hippy
 
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 at 10:35 GMT, paul (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> Interesting page.
>
> I'm not even cracking 200kw from my ride to work :(

kw? That's a decent sized car engine, isn't it? Impressive! :)

I barely get 200w, but I don't know that I accurately described my
bike, my height, nor my weight :) I don't even know what you call
those tires. Wide touring bike? No idea. Certainly not slicks.

Speed is 21km/h averaged over 30min[1], and I don't know slope. I
guess height above sea level when it is only a few hundred m doesn't
have any effect.

Anyway, I'm waiting for us to come up with a portable fusion reactor
that pumps out 200w on the input of a grain of sand. Then I don't have
to pedal at all :)

[1] This morning, now that I have bar ends, and toe clips, etc, I
decided to actually push as fast as I would be comfortable for any
length of time -- only for 10 mins or so, but I felt a noticable
increase in average velocity. Maybe if I keep doing this, I might get
fit... Got to remember 1) cadence, 2), 1/3rd weight distribution. Of
course, I'll not even come close to a factor of 3 of you l33t bastards
:)

--
TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
Just because they are called 'forbidden' transitions does not mean
that they are forbidden. They are less allowed than allowed
transitions, if you see what I mean. --unk
 
> hippy wrote:
> > "paul" <[email protected]
> >> I just read that. Wow, they are averaging 43kph (is that right?)
> >
> > http://www.kreuzotter.de/english/espeed.htm
> > puts me at about 408W (that sounds too high) and
> > the winner at ~550W assuming he weighed 80kg at
> > 180cm.
>
"paul" <[email protected]
> Interesting page.
> I'm not even cracking 200kw from my ride to work :(

Are you cracking a sweat?

Nah, it depends how much you ride and how fast
you ride. I've been racing (many will say badly) for
a couple of years and I'm a lowly C-grader (no
offence fellow C-graders, but really, I think there's
plenty more "up" from here..).
I think I often ride damn hard as I can but probably
not for as long as I can (sprinter genes :) ). Until
recently I had no structure. Now I follow a training
plan and it seems to be working.
Basically the more pain you put yourself through,
the faster you will get - remembering, of course, the
need for recovery. Tough balance. I used to totally
wear myself out to the point where I would take a
week off because I was sick of the bike.. this hasn't
happened with the new regime.. yet.

hippy
 
"TimC" <[email protected]
> On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 at 10:35 GMT, paul (aka Bruce)
> > I'm not even cracking 200kw from my ride to work :(
>
> kw? That's a decent sized car engine, isn't it? Impressive! :)

I didn't even notice.. you wont be sending satellites
crashing into earth any time soon will ya? :)

> [1] This morning, now that I have bar ends, and toe clips, etc, I
> decided to actually push as fast as I would be comfortable for any
> length of time -- only for 10 mins or so, but I felt a noticable

Hmm.. "comfortable" certainly hasn't been a factor in
most of my riding for some time now :)

> increase in average velocity. Maybe if I keep doing this, I might get
> fit... Got to remember 1) cadence, 2), 1/3rd weight distribution. Of
> course, I'll not even come close to a factor of 3 of you l33t bastards

What's the 1/3rd weight distribution thing?

hippy
 
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 at 13:50 GMT, hippy (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> "TimC" <[email protected]
>> [1] This morning, now that I have bar ends, and toe clips, etc, I
>> decided to actually push as fast as I would be comfortable for any
>> length of time -- only for 10 mins or so, but I felt a noticable
>
> Hmm.. "comfortable" certainly hasn't been a factor in
> most of my riding for some time now :)

Yeah, but I've never enjoyed most excercise (can't stand jogging - how
do people put up with the knee pain (I've heard of people who *bleed*
when they run - as in, cough up blood)?), and I only do things I
enjoy.

I'd never cycle if I needed to go past my comfort threshold.

>> increase in average velocity. Maybe if I keep doing this, I might get
>> fit... Got to remember 1) cadence, 2), 1/3rd weight distribution. Of
>> course, I'll not even come close to a factor of 3 of you l33t bastards
>
> What's the 1/3rd weight distribution thing?

Feet, ****, hands. You don't follow that "rule"?

--
TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
Press any key to continue, any other key to abort
-- thrillbert's code
 
"TimC" <[email protected]
> Yeah, but I've never enjoyed most excercise (can't stand jogging - how
> do people put up with the knee pain (I've heard of people who *bleed*
> when they run - as in, cough up blood)?), and I only do things I
> enjoy.

Yeah.. I can relate to the bleeding.. I wasn't
coughing it up though.

> I'd never cycle if I needed to go past my comfort threshold.

That's what's cool about riding. Almost anyone can
do it and they can do it their own way. Personally, I have
great respect for the long distance riders. I don't have
the self control to maintain a pace necessary to finish
those massive rides. Lung searing, muscle tearing speed
fests are one thing but grinding your legs (and butt!!!) to
a pulp over multiple days is a whole other world of pain
that I'm avoiding for now.

> >> increase in average velocity. Maybe if I keep doing this, I might get
> >> fit... Got to remember 1) cadence, 2), 1/3rd weight distribution. Of
> >> course, I'll not even come close to a factor of 3 of you l33t bastards
> >
> > What's the 1/3rd weight distribution thing?
>
> Feet, ****, hands. You don't follow that "rule"?

Oh, um.. not really. That one slipped by me :)
I wouldn't have a clue what my weight distribution
is. 60% ****, 20% arms, 20% feet? Nah, no idea..

hippy
 
hippy said:
"Parbs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Congratulations Hippy!
> We'll expect similar results from the Hip led "Miscellaneous Miscreants".

hehehe.. wishful thinking mate! wishful thinking..
my big, bad legs turn into dead weights when I
have to make them go 'up'. The hipsta doesn't
travel too well over dirt either. Hopefully the
others will carry me.. right bici-soiler? right? :)

hippy
Click to expand...

Carry you?!

I though you'd be carrying me. Wot with winning on the road 'n all. You gotta use that power of yours to get over the dirt faster.

I gotta get fitter, somehow B4 the Kona.

You up for some laps at Lysterfeild?
 
"Bikesoiler" <[email protected]
> hippy Wrote:
> > hehehe.. wishful thinking mate! wishful thinking..
> > my big, bad legs turn into dead weights when I
> > have to make them go 'up'. The hipsta doesn't
> > travel too well over dirt either. Hopefully the
> > others will carry me.. right bici-soiler? right? :)
>
> Carry you?!

Not literally.. I'm not that cruel! ;-)

> I though you'd be carrying me. Wot with winning on the road 'n all.
> You gotta use that power of yours to get over the dirt faster.

If the course was a straight drag race, sure.. but it's
all the twisties and stuff that slow me down. I think I
might wear the HRM this year - it might stop me killing
myself on the first lap, leaving some for later..

> I gotta get fitter, somehow B4 the Kona.

You got the techy skills to make time up on me though.

> You up for some laps at Lysterfeild?

Yeah, I could be into that. I think the single test lap of
the dirt crits last week is the most mtb'ing I've done
since the last Kona :-S

I'm gonna need a pre-race beer just to stop me flippin'
out when I see dirt..

hippy
 
"hippy" wrote in message ...
<snip>
> I'm gonna need a pre-race beer just to stop me flippin'
> out when I see dirt..
>
> hippy
>
>

Pre-race beer - sounds like you should be riding a SS.

Parbs
 
"hippy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > hippy wrote:
> > > "paul" <[email protected]
> > >> I just read that. Wow, they are averaging 43kph (is that right?)
> > >
> > > http://www.kreuzotter.de/english/espeed.htm
> > > puts me at about 408W (that sounds too high) and
> > > the winner at ~550W assuming he weighed 80kg at
> > > 180cm.
> >
> "paul" <[email protected]
> > Interesting page.
> > I'm not even cracking 200kw from my ride to work :(
>
> Are you cracking a sweat?
>
> Nah, it depends how much you ride and how fast
> you ride. I've been racing (many will say badly) for
> a couple of years and I'm a lowly C-grader (no
> offence fellow C-graders, but really, I think there's
> plenty more "up" from here..).
> I think I often ride damn hard as I can but probably
> not for as long as I can (sprinter genes :) ). Until
> recently I had no structure. Now I follow a training
> plan and it seems to be working.
> Basically the more pain you put yourself through,
> the faster you will get - remembering, of course, the
> need for recovery. Tough balance. I used to totally
> wear myself out to the point where I would take a
> week off because I was sick of the bike.. this hasn't
> happened with the new regime.. yet.
>
> hippy
>
I just sent off my CA membership today so hopefully I will have a race
licence in a week or so. I assume that when I rock up to my first club race
I will be put into D grade??

Hypothetical.......if I find that the D grade pace is manageable and I am
still with the lead bunch on the final lap, should I go for the win or am I
better off taking it easy for a few races to get the feel of things and then
going for it in a later race?? If I do manage to finish towards the front
of the race will the handicapper push me up a grade straight away?

I am not saying that I am going to find the pace easy (I can only hope), I
just don't want to be judged as having "poor form". I know from playing
club golf that there are always "burglars" who perform poorly for some time
to get a higher handicap before then giving it their all in whatever event
they decide that they want to "win". Does this happen in crit racing?

I am really looking forward to having a go at a crit.....I might even have
to start doing intervals on the way to work.....hehehe.

Ride On,

Gags
 
"Parbs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "hippy" wrote in message ...
> <snip>
> > I'm gonna need a pre-race beer just to stop me flippin'
> > out when I see dirt..
> >
> > hippy
>
> Pre-race beer - sounds like you should be riding a SS.

I think I'm gonna spew now.. I can't believe I['m online
now.. what a nerd.. .no wonder she went home with the'
enemy! :p

I'd prefer an ss..

drunk hippy
 
"Gags" <gags_44nospamatnospamtpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hypothetical.......if I find that the D grade pace is manageable and I am
> still with the lead bunch on the final lap, should I go for the win or am
I
> better off taking it easy for a few races to get the feel of things and
then
> going for it in a later race?? If I do manage to finish towards the front
> of the race will the handicapper push me up a grade straight away?

You should wax 'em.. go fopr the win. If you don't feel confident, sook
to the grading dudes/dudettes and they should let you win a couple
before you go up. Not much point though.

> I am not saying that I am going to find the pace easy (I can only hope), I
> just don't want to be judged as having "poor form". I know from playing
> club golf that there are always "burglars" who perform poorly for some
time
> to get a higher handicap before then giving it their all in whatever event
> they decide that they want to "win". Does this happen in crit racing?

Yes. Sandbagging riders.. suck. I can't believe I got killed so often
last season just because a bunch of B graders never went up.. fskcers!

> I am really looking forward to having a go at a crit.....I might even have
> to start doing intervals on the way to work.....hehehe.

Not really the sort of thing that can be done 'properly' on the commute..

hippy
 
Gags said:
I just sent off my CA membership today so hopefully I will have a race
licence in a week or so. I assume that when I rock up to my first club race
I will be put into D grade??

Hypothetical.......if I find that the D grade pace is manageable and I am
still with the lead bunch on the final lap, should I go for the win or am I
better off taking it easy for a few races to get the feel of things and then
going for it in a later race?? If I do manage to finish towards the front
of the race will the handicapper push me up a grade straight away?

I am not saying that I am going to find the pace easy (I can only hope), I
just don't want to be judged as having "poor form". I know from playing
club golf that there are always "burglars" who perform poorly for some time
to get a higher handicap before then giving it their all in whatever event
they decide that they want to "win". Does this happen in crit racing?

I am really looking forward to having a go at a crit.....I might even have
to start doing intervals on the way to work.....hehehe.

Ride On,

Gags
Click to expand...

Well done on getting your racing licence! You don't have to start in D-grade, if it is a club race, you just choose your own grade. If you think you're good enough, try C or even B. However, you might prefer to flog the D-graders rather than get left behind in B.

If you find that you're too strong for D-grade, you might as well finish it off and win. Next time, go straight up to C... nobody likes a sandbagger. It won't take too many weeks to find your level of incompetence (mine is B).

Reminds me... should I go racing this afternoon?

Ritch
 
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