Hi Zaskar,zaskar said:Look at it this way. If I or anyone else wants to eat junk how does that affect your life? Just because someone eats a freaking doughnut, does not mean they dont give a damn. Worry about yourself, unless our eating habits affects your life.
The OP asked what was best out of the list. Then you act like your above eveyone because you dont eat a dougnut. Go kill yourself.
Remember me? I used to be a frequent flyer around here back around 2004. I remember a discussion involving red meat and I think you were the one stating that when you reduced your consumption, you found that your energy level rose. If I'm confusing you with someone else I'm sorry.
My point here is going to be that Ratiocinator actually raises some very valid points. The problem is that everyone has different levels of concern and different levels of commitment when it comes to avoiding the things they know aren't good for them. I know that donuts are filled with saturated fats, sugar and devoid of any fiber. That doesn't stop me from having an occasional donut. I have a brother who is less focused on what I consider to be a more moderate approach. For him, it he reads that it's bad and the information is well supported, it goes on a rather lengthy list of things he'll never eat again. He and I are both cyclists, though while he rides a recumbent, I prefer a more traditional bicycle.
I think the point Ratiocinator is trying to make is just to be aware of the detrimental effects of some of the foods we eat on a rather frequent basis. Knowing that a cheeseburger is loaded with saturated fat, cholesterol, white bread and a number of other detriments to health doesn't have to mean you'll never eat another cheeseburger. It just means educating yourself, (which you indicate you've already done), and then using the information you've assimilated to make informed choices. The only thing I'd caution you on is accepting "common knowledge" as good information -- often, they're not even related.
His points concerning meat, dairy, poultry and all the rest are well-founded. And most certainly everyone will die of something at some point. The idea from my perspective is to not lead a sickly life before it comes my time to die. When I note that 65%-77% of annual deaths in the United States are attributable to diseases and disorders directly tied to diet, I find that a compelling reason to heed that information and make adjustments to my diet that I feel I can live with. I usually find that the adjustments aren't nearly as difficult as I might have originally imagined them to be.