Gout vs. meat?

<RJ> said...

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It's ORGAN meat that you have to avoid.
That usually includes sausage, and some hot-dogs.

That's hardly all there is to it!

Andy

Andy q said:

That's hardly all there is to it!

Yep. Besides, I'm a hot dog junkie. Eat 'em by the truckload. My
current fave is the National Hebrew 1/4 lb'ers. Yum!

nb

notbob said...

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Andy q said:

That's hardly all there is to it!

Yep. Besides, I'm a hot dog junkie. Eat 'em by the truckload. My
current fave is the National Hebrew 1/4 lb'ers. Yum!

nb

nb,

Before gout... http://www.tinypic.com/6gec5ti.jpg

My ol' faithful dogs!

Andy

Andy said:

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I also might suggest a rheumatologist.

A needle aspiration would confirm uric acid crystals in the joint.
Most patients decline however.
Without that, you don't know if it's gout, pseudogout, or something
else entirely. When one doctor thought I had gout, a second doctor
thought it more likely an injury or other inflammation.]
S.

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Steve,

C'mon! You don't have to be a doctor to see gout inflamation! But you can't
be me either. I thought it was a re-injury of my foot.

Actually Steve is pretty much on target. Even syphillis can cause joint
problems.

q said:

notbob said...

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Andy q said:

That's hardly all there is to it!

Yep. Besides, I'm a hot dog junkie. Eat 'em by the truckload. My
current fave is the National Hebrew 1/4 lb'ers. Yum!

nb

nb,

Before gout... http://www.tinypic.com/6gec5ti.jpg

My ol' faithful dogs!

Andy

is that your tinfoil hat in frame 3?

Chipper said:

You might try checking out this book; "Let's Get Well" by Adelle Davis. She
deals with gout issues in chapter 18. I have found her recommendations to
be extremely helpful in other conditions, although she often flies in the
face of conventional medicine.

am i the only one who snickered when i learned davis died of bone
cancer?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelle_Davis

your pal,
blake

Puester wrote

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a couple lambrusco I never had before, so... study evening 😉

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What label Lambrusco? We discovered it in the mid 70's and bought

it

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by the case until we got a case of it that tasted just like Welch's
grape juice. We stopped drinking it and have never gone back.

LOL, I should apologize for my whole county for this sad old story,
and I do it.
And also take time to recall it. It all started 30 years ago, when a
big local winery started to trade lambrusco in the USA, and many
others followed. Since knowlodge of italian wine in the USA market of
the time wasn't much widespread, the importers asked "us" for a wine
that could please american tastes and sweet lambrusco was sent, and it
sold well, too. Then someone asked for fruit flavored wine, but not
fruity in Parker's way, fruity in the fruit-soda way. So this big
winery started making (sigh) fruit flavored lambrusco, at an alcool
rate around 4 - 5%, no more. Horrible. I never had one since I was too
young for it, but my parents and some older friend who have all told
me the same: undrinkable.

Now, getting to these days, good ambrusco can be found from many
producers, I know expecially winries from my area, Reggio Emilia. The
wines I tried out this evening were all fromso small wineries that I'm
sure are not exporting anything out of the county, not even out of
Italy... sorry for that.
Nice lambruscos you can find out of Italy? Google for the keyword
"lambrusco" with me as "Author:" on alt.food.wine 😉
--
Vilco
Think pink, drink rose'

Chipper said:

You might try checking out this book; "Let's Get Well" by Adelle Davis.
She deals with gout issues in chapter 18. I have found her
recommendations to be extremely helpful in other conditions,
although she often flies in the face of conventional medicine.

This is some of the worst advice you can get.
Before you swallow any of her [censored], read a little
about her:

http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/davis.html

Andy q said:

nb,

Before gout... http://www.tinypic.com/6gec5ti.jpg

My ol' faithful dogs!

Oh man, yer killin' me! I see a dog for dinner.

Hang in their, Andy. Be patient and let the problem run it's course.
Given time and some allopurinolq and you'll be enjoying them babies again.
I gar-own-tee! 😉

nb

Steve Pope said:

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..... When one doctor thought I had gout, a second doctor
thought it more likely an injury or other inflammation.]

S.

Injury to the body can sometimes bring on an episode of gout. I've seen
it happen.

Sky

"Andy" <q> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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I'm more appealing to gout sufferers for their experience.

Andy

I don't find you appealing at all; but then again I don't have gout. ;-)~

Glasswalker said:

Since there seem to be quite a bit of folks that have or are suffering from
gout here, has anyone else had gout present in your fingers and not your
feet? That's how mine did, and one of the reasons the doc wasn't 100% sure
that it was gout (even with the slight presence of the uric acid crystals).

The middle knuckle of my middle finger swelled immensely to a point where I
couldn't bend it at all. Made for fun times though when I had to wrap it to
keep it immoblized.

"No, I'm just making a fist, I promise!" ;^)

-Glasswalker-

Spouse has had gout in the jaw, hands and elbows a few times but mostly
gets periodic episodes in the lower limb joints, and it isn't pretty
when that happens 🙁 Spouse takes allopurinol daily as a prophylactic
and will use colchicine when the hint of an attack threatens, which nips
it in the bud most of the time. But, the side effects of colchicine are
something to be reckoned with (stay close to the bathroom!).

Sky

Skyhooks said:

Injury to the body can sometimes bring on an episode of gout.
I've seen it happen.

Yes, but that almost always means the person was borderline
for gout to begin with. In such a condition, a foot
injury can indeed develop into gout. It's happened
to me a few times, before I started getting serious
about prevention. Gout, like pregnancy, is much
easier to handle before the fact. But sometimes you
have to learn that the hard way.

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Paco's Tacos said:

"Andy" <q> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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I'm more appealing to gout sufferers for their experience.

Andy

I don't find you appealing at all; but then again I don't have gout. ;-)~

If I hurt, I just take lots of Ibuprofen and carry on...

Works for me.
--
Peace, Om

Remove _ to validate e-mails.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

Chipper said:

You might try checking out this book; "Let's Get Well" by Adelle Davis. She
deals with gout issues in chapter 18. I have found her recommendations to
be extremely helpful in other conditions, although she often flies in the
face of conventional medicine.

Take Adele Davis with a grain of salt. Although many of her diet
suggestions are good sense, she swore that with her perfect, wonderful,
healthful diet she'd live forever.

She died of cancer in her 60's, IIRC.

gloria p

RJ said:

It's ORGAN meat that you have to avoid.
That usually includes sausage, and some hot-dogs.

A week of gorging on shrimp in Hawaii triggered my first and only
attack, aggravated by years of taking HCTZ diuretic for blood pressure.

I thought I had gotten a spider or other bug bite that infected.
The Urgent Care doctor took one look and said "Nope, it's gout."

gloria p

Vilco said:

Puester wrote

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a couple lambrusco I never had before, so... study evening 😉

Quoted message said:

What label Lambrusco? We discovered it in the mid 70's and bought

it

Quoted message said:

by the case until we got a case of it that tasted just like Welch's
grape juice. We stopped drinking it and have never gone back.

LOL, I should apologize for my whole county for this sad old story,
and I do it.

Quoted message said:

Nice lambruscos you can find out of Italy? Google for the keyword
"lambrusco" with me as "Author:" on alt.food.wine 😉

Thank you!

gloria p

"Andy" <q> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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Before gout... http://www.tinypic.com/6gec5ti.jpg

My ol' faithful dogs!

Andy

Okay, I've got to ask...
What's up with the Elmer's on the turnstile?

-Glasswalker-

"Goomba38" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >

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Actually Steve is pretty much on target. Even syphillis can cause joint
problems.

Oh [censored]...

;^)

-Glasswalker-

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[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

You might try checking out this book; "Let's Get Well" by Adelle Davis. She
deals with gout issues in chapter 18. I have found her recommendations to
be extremely helpful in other conditions, although she often flies in the
face of conventional medicine.

am i the only one who snickered when i learned davis died of bone
cancer?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelle_Davis

Why would you snicker? Does it make you feel clever or superior?

--
Peter Aitken