Lance armstrong helps dan bilzerian prepare for 300-mile cycle ride

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  1. el bala

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  2. mpre53

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    Nobody gives a shit. :D
     
  3. Dilof

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    I cannot stand Dan Bilzerian or Armstrong so basically it's two idiots helping eachother to win money that neither of them need; great news.
     
  4. cyclintom

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    Whenever Lance's name comes up you get this extremely wide variation in reactions.

    He was a doper. Yeah, and so was everyone else. Our dopers beat their dopers = was it fair and square?

    I also have a lot of problems with the efficacy of doping. According to the people that use it Testosterone and either EPO or Blood Transfusions increase the strength and endurance of Grand Tour racers.

    If that is so why hasn't the average speed of a Grand Tour fallen except for the very short time that the fastest team leaders were disqualified?

    As someone that worked on many different medical instruments in my profession I do have the understanding that bicycle racing isn't like any of the other sports. In professional cycling every system in your body is taken to it's ultimate limit. So testosterone couldn't "increase strength" since that would add muscle and hence weight. You have the same problem with transfusions - adding the ability to transport more oxygen to your muscles doesn't make any difference if the transfer of oxygen from your muscles to your blood isn't also enhanced. There is also the requirement to burn calories by moving nourishment in and out of your muscles. This has to do with your digestive system.

    These sorts of questions puts us back to asking - if these forms of doping did make a difference why hasn't average speed of Grand Tours gone down?

    Could these cheaters have been taking chances and spending money to do nothing?
     
  5. CAMPYBOB

    CAMPYBOB Well-Known Member

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    Speak for yourself, mpre53!

    "He may be regarded as one of the biggest drug cheat in the history of sport, but Lance Armstrong still takes up the opportunity to pass on his wisdom – even if it is to a poker thrown a porn star off his roof and tried to blow up tractors with homemade explosives."

    Now...who the Hell DON'T like a poker playing guy that's tossed porn stars off a roof AND blows shit up with high explosives?

    That's MY kind of man!
     
  6. mpre53

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    Because EPO and transfusing gave the cheaters what nature and genetics gave the natural talents like Merckx, Anquetil, Hinault, LeMond, et al. If they doped at all (and Eddy and Anquetil clearly did) they were taking speed, which kind of was close to spending money and taking chances to do, well, very little overall.

    All you need to do is look at both Indurain's and Lance's results pre-EPO and compare it to what they did after. Indurain DNF'd a few and then finished one Tour around 85th place overall, and then almost miraculously jumped to 11th. All of a sudden, a 185 lb. time trial specialist was a world class climber. Lance never finished one. Then, they never lost another one, until Lance decided to make his ill-advised comeback. And even then he finished on the podium.

    There were guys like Pantani that probably could have won clean, but would have had no chance without doing what others were doing. Mig and Lance would have never finished within sniffing distance of the podium without blood manipulation.
     
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    Ah, now I see where Lance comes in. Besides coaching, this poker playing dude needs a little insight on what one is supposed to do with porn stars. :cool:
     
  8. CAMPYBOB

    CAMPYBOB Well-Known Member

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    I watched a few of his videos. I'm pretty sure he needs no advice in that department!

    "Bitch got all uppity! I had to git it on!"

    The guy is insane, but he sure looks like he is having fun making a reality video out of his life. I prefer less drama, but machineguns and Tannerite are a blast. No, seriously. They are a lot of fun.
     
  9. limerickman

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    Armstrong knows well all about "preparing".:rolleyes:
     
  10. Weatherby

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    I remember watching Indurain on L'Alp du Huez in around 1991. I was a bit more than halfway up the climb. I wanted Lemond to win. I was shocked at the ease Indurain was pushing a big gear up the climb and how hard Lemond, Delgado, and Fignon rode but still lost around a 1-2 minutes. I thought Indurain looked like a horse maybe a Clydesdale. I could not believe how a nobody who dropped out of several prior tours was suddenly dropping the best of the best on a dffiicult climb at the end of a very hard stage. One thing stuck out to me at the time and the image is burned in my brain. Indurain's nostrils were blood red like a horse racing. Very strange sight.
     
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