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flyingdutch wrote:
> Unless anyone is interested... I want a double chainset to replace my
> current triple so I can hold my head a tad higher at the races


hey flyingdutch you hold your head higher by winning! Roberto heras wo
a Tour of Spain using a triple:-


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[Hitchy]

wrote:
> .
> Hitchy, if youre worried about changing over wheels between the two,
> just get a spare cassette hub/body that you can put on your shimano
> hubs/wheels and swap wheels at will


G'day 'Dutch

I was vaguely aware that this was possible...but how much work is ut t
change the hub body?. With my current 9 speed on the training bike & D
10 on the 'good' bike, I just need to whip one cassette off & replace i
with the other, (a 2 minute job). Regardless of all the Big S & camp
discussions, IMHO they are equally good gruppos (DA & Record)....so i
will come down to convenience & 'what I know'. I can 'do' campy, bu
havent done it enough to say I'm comfortable with it yet. I can't se
myself spending $3K on a gruppo that I might never decide I do actuall
like, when the alternative that I know I like...is just a
good......sure like the look o' them carbon rear derailuers though

cheers

Hitch


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[Hitchy]

wrote:
> Record 10sp $2899 Chorus 10sp $1865 Daytona 9sp $1269 Daytona 10sp $1420
> Veloce 9sp $900
> Dura Ace $2587 Ultegra $1673 105 $1414 Tiagra $975
> $400.. okay, substantial.. still don't like their shifters though..
> anyone wanna lend me a Campy bike? Pretty please?
> hippy


G'day Hippy

remind me not to buy any gruppo's off you!

http://www.nemesis.cc

cheers

Hitch


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[hippy]

Hitchy wrote:
> G'day Hippy, remind me not to buy any gruppo's off you!,
> http://www.nemesis.cc/ cheers, Hitchy


Gee, ya quote a few prices and the whole world's against ya! :

I just wanted a website with Shimano and Campagnolo prices for a side-by
side comparison and I wanted it quick.. this was the first list to po
up... will you ever forgive me

hipp

"screw you guys, i'm goin' home!
- Cartma


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[Hitchy]

hippy wrote:
> Gee, ya quote a few prices and the whole world's against ya!
> I just wanted a website with Shimano and Campagnolo prices for a side-by-
> side comparison and I wanted it quick.. this was the first list to pop
> up... will you ever forgive me?
> hippy
> "screw you guys, i'm goin' home!"
> - Cartman


forgiven....remind me not to buy any gruppo's off SBR then!

cheers

Hitch


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[flyingdutch]

Hitchy wrote:
> G'day 'Dutch,
> I was vaguely aware that this was possible...but how much work is ut to
> change the hub body?. With my current 9 speed on the training bike & DA
> 10 on the 'good' bike, I just need to whip one cassette off & replace it
> with the other, (a 2 minute job). Regardless of all the Big S & campy
> discussions, IMHO they are equally good gruppos (DA & Record)....so it
> will come down to convenience & 'what I know'. I can 'do' campy, but
> havent done it enough to say I'm comfortable with it yet. I can't see
> myself spending $3K on a gruppo that I might never decide I do actually
> like, when the alternative that I know I like...is just as
> good......sure like the look o' them carbon rear derailuers though,
> cheers,
> Hitchy


Apologies Hitchy. whilst what I said is true, you can keep your Shiman
wheel/hub intact and use Mavic cassettes which you can put onto shiman
hubs and are C10 compatibl



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[hippy]

Hitchy wrote:
> I agree the carbon ergo's look terrific...how robust are they?. I'm
> thinking that me being No1 Klutz is likely to scratch them, break
> them, fall off etc etc. Whilst the odd scratch on the Big S shifters
> is largely invisible, I'm thinking this would stand out like 'dogs'
> with carbon?,


Other than pedals, the thing that gets trashed the most on my bike (whe
I stack or it falls) is the shifters. They are right out there and tak
quite a few hits. They should continue to look sweet after a hit, bu
I'd be crying anyway..

Apparently, Campag are moving to full carbon cages on both their fron
and rear derrs too... Drool Factor 9

hipp


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[Hitchy]

Originally posted by flyingdutc

G'day 'Dutch

I agree the carbon ergo's look terrific...how robust are they?. I'
thinking that me being No1 Klutz is likely to scratch them, brea
them, fall off etc etc. Whilst the odd scratch on the Big S shifter
is largely invisible, I'm thinking this would stand out like 'dogs
with carbon?

cheers

Hitch


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[flyingdutch]

luckily I havent even got dirt on em yet (is it wrong to put gladwrap o
your levers?

the carbon brakelever and grar shifter is mighty tough (not that I hav
stress tested it mind) but the 'feel' is very stiff but ligh

I havent seen anyone with mangled levers yet but i do know the cost o
replacing ergos vs STIs leans is huge in favour of ergos (and you ca
replace far more individual parts too, like upgrading from 8/9 to 10sp
is just $25US in the levers!

what you said on Fri got me thunking hipsta. Do you, can you chang
gears either way (up/down) when in the drops with STIs? Im a drop
'virgin' and dont like em much. even once contemplated cutting em off t
be a weight weeni


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[Hitchy]

flyingdutch wrote:
> what you said on Fri got me thunking hipsta. Do you, can you change
> gears either way (up/down) when in the drops with STIs? Im a drops
> 'virgin' and dont like em much. even once contemplated cutting em off to
> be a weight weenie


G'day 'dutch

methinks that the whole reason for having STI is that you can change i
the 'drops' in a sprint. I'll bet, (like most stuff), it was develope
cos of demand from the pros (& the campy stuff too). Thats my bigges
issue for campy actually, a 'change down' in the drops with camp
requires more 'movement' than Big S.....not that you ever actuall
change down that much in the drops...

cheers

Hitch


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[hippy]

flyingdutch wrote:
> can you change gears either way (up/down) when in the drops with STIs?


Yes. The brake lever swings inward and the lever behind it does th
same. So if you can reach the brakes on the drops (advisable), you ca
change up and down

hipp


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[jazmo]

hippy wrote:
> Yes. The brake lever swings inward and the lever behind it does the
> same. So if you can reach the brakes on the drops (advisable), you can
> change up and down.
> hippy



I don't like riding on the drops in fast moving bunches at the moment.
When I used to race years ago I was fine with this but for some reason
now I'm not so comfortable (might be a flexibility vs age issue) ;-).

I found in my race on Sunday that with my hands on the hoods the whole
race my fingers were getting numb!! I tried going down on the drops but
only for a short period to get the feeling back in my fingers before
going back to the hoods. I think I'm going to have to practice riding on
the drops just so I can vary my riding position while racing.



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