I totally agree with you ozbiker... the bus drivers on the sunny coast are insane!ozbiker2 said:Once per lifetime the cyclists have a win
Our usual Wed morning ride the bunch is racing home fast as!!! I'm #1 and a bus pulls in front and hits the skids to pick up pax - this is normal here - the bus drivers are homicidal. I grab everything and miss the bus by a few mm, so I expect the guys behind me did the same. I send a few choice expletives to the bus driver through his open window, which he ignores of course. #2 rider stops to have a chat to the driver - very important pos with transport dept, decides who gets their bus licenses, etc. Comment back at the carpark is that xyz bus driver will be off the buses by lunchtime. I suppose the bus driver wasn't too smart about his choice of victims
++1asterope said:.....and funnily enough, nambour-maroochydore by petrie ck road has the most courteous drivers ive ever come across. go figure.....
I know this bit of road vey well.There is about 50m of a short single lane (not much of a shoulder) then it spreads into two lanes, plus another lane to turn into a Bunnings.In total you could say 3 lanes.Enough to fit a 2 roadtrains side by side.So I am willing to bet my lefty that F*#K face bevan boy would have gotten as close to the cyclists as possible.He was probably racing up the pub not far away for a couple of rumbos and durries.mikesbytes said:To clip a cyclist in the middle of the bunch, one would have to ask the question, was the motorist delibertry going as close as possible to the cyclists?
=======================================================MPCRUSHER said:Clearly if there are 13 or more riders in a bunch, a car must be able to see them. This guy has apparrently " Clipped " a cyclist. How the F@#$ do you clip a cyclist. You drive straight into them thats how. How close was this bloke. I think he has done it on purpose. He has tried to get real close to the bunch to scare them and he has misjudged the distance. For this newspaper to call it an accident is absurd as well as an insult to the riders in hospital. Accidents like this dont just happen. They are avoidable.
When a car passes you when your riding single breasted on the road, there should be a legally appropriate passing distance between rider and car. It should be well known in the community. The onous has to be on the car driver to avoid the rider. When a bunch is riding two abreast, cars should by law be made to pass in the outer most lane, or overtake the same way you would any other vehicle on the road.
Our state governments have a lot to answer for. Both state and local.
One of the biggest risks for riders here in Brisbane is the amount of rubbish that is on the road side. Moving as far left as possible can put you in harms way as much as staying put. Bits of delaminated truck tyre, broken glass and metal debris are a real hazard. A sudden flat at high speed could be devistating. So what does NZ do to combat that issue, that you actually can move left? As for the 1.5 meter rule, ours is 1.2 meters but who has time to pull out the tape measure A lot of us would complain about it here too, if we for one small moment thought that the police actually cared. The appathy toward cyclists in Brisbane is so palpable it could be cut with a chain saw.Bigbananabike said:=======================================================
Here in New Zealand the law is 1.5metre gap between car and cyclist when the car is passing.
I've written in to the Police about tens of cars that have come closer than that - the drivers/owners would then have got a notice about the incident.
Riding two abreat - here it's not allowed on windy roads - which I think is a good law.
Some bunches of racing riders can be way too cocky on the road and make it very difficult for drivers to pass - leading to a very frustrated motorist(s).
Me - I always have my helmet mirror on and move over as much as possible - or even get off the road for scummy drivers.
I have an answer to get the attention of bus drivers who left hook you as the skid across your front wheel into a bus stop rather than slow down for 3 seconds. Assuming you're able to stop and not hit the bus... gently roll into the side of the bus and hit it (with your hand - shoulder, front tyre etc.). No damage but since there has been a collision, you position yourself in front of the bus to prevent him from leaving. You then demand to see his licence (legally, he must swap details). This will spoil his day as he (and his passengers) will now be horribly late. Sounds harsh but, if we all wasted 10 minutes of their time by swapping details, inpecting for damage (thoroughly) etc. as the law requires you to, they will think twice next time they try to save 3 seconds by running you off the road.ozbiker2 said:Once per lifetime the cyclists have a win
Our usual Wed morning ride the bunch is racing home fast as!!! I'm #1 and a bus pulls in front and hits the skids to pick up pax - this is normal here - the bus drivers are homicidal. I grab everything and miss the bus by a few mm, so I expect the guys behind me did the same. I send a few choice expletives to the bus driver through his open window, which he ignores of course. #2 rider stops to have a chat to the driver - very important pos with transport dept, decides who gets their bus licenses, etc. Comment back at the carpark is that xyz bus driver will be off the buses by lunchtime. I suppose the bus driver wasn't too smart about his choice of victims
So it seems more likely to be due to Aggro driving rather than driver or rider error.charliechops said:I know this bit of road vey well.There is about 50m of a short single lane (not much of a shoulder) then it spreads into two lanes, plus another lane to turn into a Bunnings.In total you could say 3 lanes.Enough to fit a 2 roadtrains side by side.So I am willing to bet my lefty that F*#K face bevan boy would have gotten as close to the cyclists as possible.He was probably racing up the pub not far away for a couple of rumbos and durries.
Be safe everyone, because unfortuneately there are wankers like this everywhere at anytime, whether you are solo or with 12 other peeps or more....Like you didn't know!
There is more than a good chance that aggresive driving played a major part in this avoidable accident.mikesbytes said:So it seems more likely to be due to Aggro driving rather than driver or rider error.
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