New Orleans



Me too and none of them are dopers.

My brother (also an attny), his wife (PhD/M.D. at Tulane), and four
kids live near the Audubon Park Zoo on the Mississippi. They
high-tailed it to Texas and have no idea when to come back.

I do not think their neighborhood is flooded. There is no real place
yet to find out.
All of mine and his and my Dad's cycling in N.O. the Big E-Z has
consisited of easy laps at the beautiful Park that Prytania dead-ends
into.

I am hoping for the best.
_Ken_
 
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 18:08:51 -0400, Jet<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>I haven't checked the news today, but bet it will be up and running sooner
>than that with pockets of isolation that will be down for a month. Anything
>over two weeks and it's -really- hard to recover; individuals, that is.
>Anything over three weeks and I -think- the mortality rate really climbs,
>iirc. Anyone know?
>
>:-(
>
>-jet
>
>


You're right. You haven't checked the news today.

You have no grasp as to how bad this is.
 
k.papai wrote:
> Me too and none of them are dopers.
>
> My brother (also an attny), his wife (PhD/M.D. at Tulane), and four
> kids live near the Audubon Park Zoo on the Mississippi. They
> high-tailed it to Texas and have no idea when to come back.


Sorry to hear this, Ken.

God bless,
Steve

>
> I do not think their neighborhood is flooded. There is no real place
> yet to find out.
> All of mine and his and my Dad's cycling in N.O. the Big E-Z has
> consisited of easy laps at the beautiful Park that Prytania dead-ends
> into.
>
> I am hoping for the best.
> _Ken_
>



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".papai wrote:
> Me too and none of them are dopers.
> My brother (also an attny), his wife (PhD/M.D. at Tulane), and four
> kids live near the Audubon Park Zoo on the Mississippi. They
> high-tailed it to Texas and have no idea when to come back.


Sorry to hear this, Ken.

God bless,
Steve "
=====
Thanks, I have not slept well since Sunday.

LOOTERS SUCK. THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION for those pond scum bastards.

Poor New Orleans -- will it be back to "normal" by next summer? Will
they be partying their asses off for the biggest Mardi Gras ever in
2006?

-Ken
 
Hope all turns out well for them. This is one sad depressing mess.

Ken @Kauai
"k.papai" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Me too and none of them are dopers.
>
> My brother (also an attny), his wife (PhD/M.D. at Tulane), and four
> kids live near the Audubon Park Zoo on the Mississippi. They
> high-tailed it to Texas and have no idea when to come back.
>
> I do not think their neighborhood is flooded. There is no real place
> yet to find out.
> All of mine and his and my Dad's cycling in N.O. the Big E-Z has
> consisited of easy laps at the beautiful Park that Prytania dead-ends
> into.
>
> I am hoping for the best.
> _Ken_
>
 
Having been through many Typhoons and a few hurricanes I do not believe that
NO will be dry for many months. That levee break is not likely to get
repaired until the water on both sides is about equal so that the flow
slows. There are now reported to be 4 breaks, all of which will increase in
size till the flow slows. Power is unlikely to be restored for 6 months.
It will come in small increments to selected areas. I do hope I am wrong.
I remember going with out power in 1976 for 3 months. Power is not much of
an issue, it's the water you need for every day living that makes life
miserable in a heavily inhabited area. Drinking water you can usually get.
Living in a home with no water nor any way to flush a toilet is hell when
you are living in a city environment. That area needs to be evacuated and
all moved to a suitable location with facilities. Violent actions are not
far off under present living conditions. People are just happy to be alive
for a few days but then the discomfort begins to drive emotions and it goes
downhill from there.

Pray for a speedy recovery and god bless all involved.

Ken


"Curtis L. Russell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 20:38:35 GMT, "IMKen" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Talk about a sicko. You are tops in that class.
>>
>>Ken
>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> At the risk of being crass...is anyone really surprised this happened.
>>>
>>> Leviticus fortells the fate of the wicked. If you are going to have
>>> your French Quarter and your San Francisco then you'll have your floods
>>> and earthquakes.
>>>

>
> They're now saying it is the worst devastation, especially long-term,
> of any hurricane in U.S. history, with much if not most of New Orleans
> uninhabitale for a month or more and some electricity not to be
> restored for almost two months. Perhaps I'm having a mental lapse, but
> what would come even close to a hurricane? Have any blizzards or
> earthquakes come close? Would seem to make this the worst natural
> disaster in the U.S. ever.
>
> Certainly puts the destruction of our wall-to-wall carpet by the
> Scotties in perspective...
>
> Curtis L. Russell
> Odenton, MD (USA)
> Just someone on two wheels...
 
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:46:58 -0400, Jet<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:08:46 -0400, D. Ferguson
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 18:08:51 -0400, Jet<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I haven't checked the news today, but bet it will be up and running sooner
>>>than that with pockets of isolation that will be down for a month. Anything
>>>over two weeks and it's -really- hard to recover; individuals, that is.
>>>Anything over three weeks and I -think- the mortality rate really climbs,
>>>iirc. Anyone know?
>>>
>>>:-(
>>>
>>>-jet
>>>
>>>

>>
>>You're right. You haven't checked the news today.
>>
>>You have no grasp as to how bad this is.

>
>You know it's bad when Jim Cantore is almost in tears. Dayum.
>



Ya, it's really bad and the water in New Orleans is still rising.

An article worth reading-
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/30/katrina/index.html
 
k.papai wrote:
>
> Poor New Orleans -- will it be back to "normal" by next summer? Will
> they be partying their asses off for the biggest Mardi Gras ever in
> 2006?
>


One of the heads of FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) said
they were looking at 3-5 YEARS of intense rebuilding in the area.
That's about right from what South Florida went through 13 years ago
with Hurricane Andrew.

The only slightly bright spot in the whole mess is that the area will
have a gigantic economic boom in the immediate future with the influx
of insurance and federal aid money. Construction jobs and retail sales
will go sky high.

On the downside, scumbag itinerant laborers will pose as legitimate
repairmen and fleece people out of their money as a down payment, only
to never be seen again. Hurricane and flood insurance will quickly
become unaffordable to most people unless the states step in to help
control the rate increases or set up their own funds.

People in this area are already trying to get a full advance on their
construction loans so they can buy the materials before the prices go
up because of the sudden shortage that's about to happen.
 
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:08:46 -0400, D. Ferguson
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 18:08:51 -0400, Jet<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>I haven't checked the news today, but bet it will be up and running sooner
>>than that with pockets of isolation that will be down for a month. Anything
>>over two weeks and it's -really- hard to recover; individuals, that is.
>>Anything over three weeks and I -think- the mortality rate really climbs,
>>iirc. Anyone know?
>>
>>:-(
>>
>>-jet
>>
>>

>
>You're right. You haven't checked the news today.
>
>You have no grasp as to how bad this is.


You know it's bad when Jim Cantore is almost in tears. Dayum.
 
Shut the F up Tom. Brian has a heart, unlike you. I did some winter
training, almost all on the Lakefront, while staying at my Grandmother's
house way back in the day. My roots come from that city and most of my
family history, shipyard, candy wholesale biz, etc is probably underwater.
"Tom Kunich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Should we accuse them of doping while we're at it?
>
 
The immediate economic boom generated by rebuilding is good for a quick
buck. Once rebuilt the area is likely to suffer a major set back as
services that exist for normal maintenance / replacement become unnecessary.
People just no longer need a new reefer, new paint, new furniture as it will
be replace all at once. It took about ten years for the cycle to come
around to support local economies here on Kauai. During that period people
were forced to leave and seek employment elsewhere. Developing the local
skill base is still going on, 13 years later.

ken



"Carl Sundquist" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> k.papai wrote:
>>
>> Poor New Orleans -- will it be back to "normal" by next summer? Will
>> they be partying their asses off for the biggest Mardi Gras ever in
>> 2006?
>>

>
> One of the heads of FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) said
> they were looking at 3-5 YEARS of intense rebuilding in the area.
> That's about right from what South Florida went through 13 years ago
> with Hurricane Andrew.
>
> The only slightly bright spot in the whole mess is that the area will
> have a gigantic economic boom in the immediate future with the influx
> of insurance and federal aid money. Construction jobs and retail sales
> will go sky high.
>
> On the downside, scumbag itinerant laborers will pose as legitimate
> repairmen and fleece people out of their money as a down payment, only
> to never be seen again. Hurricane and flood insurance will quickly
> become unaffordable to most people unless the states step in to help
> control the rate increases or set up their own funds.
>
> People in this area are already trying to get a full advance on their
> construction loans so they can buy the materials before the prices go
> up because of the sudden shortage that's about to happen.
>
 
B. Lafferty says...

>Mad Dog wrote...


>> Tom Kunich says...


>>>Heather, will you marry me?


>> Tom won't last long, so check out his assets. If nothing else, you'll get
>> a ton of bikes and parts.


>But no helmets.


You forgot about the purple one he's hoping to have polished.
 
IMKen wrote:
> The immediate economic boom generated by rebuilding is good for a quick
> buck. Once rebuilt the area is likely to suffer a major set back as
> services that exist for normal maintenance / replacement become unnecessary.
> People just no longer need a new reefer, new paint, new furniture as it will
> be replace all at once. It took about ten years for the cycle to come
> around to support local economies here on Kauai. During that period people
> were forced to leave and seek employment elsewhere. Developing the local
> skill base is still going on, 13 years later.


Immediate economic boom...? WTF. There's not going to be anything
immediate about this. Having 80% of the buildings damaged in some way,
and having such limited access, no local housing for the regular
inhabitants much less the rebuilding force...the logistic problems are
mind-boggling.

You have to be in some end of the banking industry. Everything you
mention is financial.

R
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Curtis L. Russell <[email protected]> wrote:

[...]

> They're now saying it is the worst devastation, especially long-term,
> of any hurricane in U.S. history, with much if not most of New Orleans
> uninhabitale for a month or more and some electricity not to be
> restored for almost two months. Perhaps I'm having a mental lapse, but
> what would come even close to a hurricane? Have any blizzards or
> earthquakes come close? Would seem to make this the worst natural
> disaster in the U.S. ever.


This is not all hurricane damage. New Orleans is below sea
level. They have been pumping against the tide for
decades, if not longer. And as another poster mentioned,
not only have they done nothing about making their
situation more robust, but have executed projects that
made their situation more perilous. Watch to see if they
institute a program that secures their position, or
conduct business as usual.

--
Michael Press
 
B. Lafferty wrote:

> Keep your fellow NO cyclists in your thoughts and prayers today and in the
> coming weeks.


Do you know what it means to miss New Orleans
And miss it each night and day
I know I'm not wrong... this feeling's gettin' stronger
The longer, I stay away
Miss them moss covered vines...the tall sugar pines
Where mockin' birds used to sing
And I'd like to see that lazy Mississippi...hurryin' into spring

The moonlight on the bayou.......a Creole tune.... that fills the air
I dream... about Magnolias in bloom......and I'm wishin' I was there

Do you know what it means to miss New Orleans
When that's where you left your heart
And there's one thing more...I miss the one I care for
More than I miss New Orleans
 
Curtis L. Russell wrote:
> We don't have no pillars around here. We have piles, one place or
> another.


Damned caffeine suppositories.
 
Mad Dog wrote:
> Tom Kunich says...
>
>
>>Heather, will you marry me?

>
>
> Tom won't last long, so check out his assets. If nothing else, you'll get a ton
> of bikes and parts.
>


couple that with last nite i told my boyfriend that tom asked me to
marry him, and without missing a beat he says, "marrying you would kill
him."

so, sorry tom, can't take that kind of responsibility/guilt ;)

h
 
Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>Heather, will you marry me?


Mad Dog wrote:
>> Tom won't last long, so check out his assets. If nothing else, you'll get a ton
>> of bikes and parts.


h squared wrote:
> couple that with last nite i told my boyfriend that tom asked me to
> marry him, and without missing a beat he says, "marrying you would kill
> him."


The individual pursuit must be very taxing on the heart.