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Bill Z.
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"Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email protected]> writes:
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 02:19:17 GMT, [email protected] (Bill Z.)
> wrote in message <[email protected]>:
>
> >> I was recently visiting schools
> >> with my son who is choosing a high school. Every school we visited
> >> had posters promoting helmet use.
>
> >Posters and lions and tigers and bears, oh my. Get a grip, Guy.
>
> I have one, thanks - it provides me with the ability to appreciate the
> fatuity of the current monomaniacal focus on helmets as the be-all and
> end-all of cycle safety.
No, you need to get a grip - you are simply overreacting to absolute
trivia.
> I can provide any number of examples of helmet promotion, in a variety
> of contexts, but am having great difficulty thinking of a single
> example of any publicly funded promotion of any other cycle safety
> initiative or subject.
>
> >> Not one had a single poster promoting any other aspect of cycle
> >> safety. Do you believe that helmets are not just the single most
> >> important component of cycle safety, but so much so as to allow all
> >> others to be safely ignored? I don't think so.
>
> >Ever take a first aid course where they tell you, "first stop the
> >bleeding and keep him breathing"? It takes a few minutes at most to
> >learn how to fit and fasten a helmet, which would hopefully minimize
> >the damage if your kid crashes before learning how to ride
> >competently.
>
> You have that **** about face, as ever. First avoid the crash. Where
> is the massive campaign promoting cycle maintenance, conspicuity aids,
> correct use of lights, riding technique etc?
I'd say you've had next to zero experience with any sort of high-risk
activity and are completely clueless about how you go about protecting
your butt.
It takes less than a minute to learn how to fasten a helmet on properly.
Let's see how fast you can teach someone something meaningful about
"cycle maintenance, conspicuity aids, correct use of lights, riding
technique etc." You can put a poster anywhere. You can't realistically
schedule a class immediately, if only because the particpants may have
to bring their bikes.
> >Did it occur to you that they might teach how to cycle safely in
> >class, where more than the few seconds needed to digest a poster
> >could be applied to the subject?
>
> I suggest you devote some energy to acquiring a clue. Cycling is not
> taught in class. The only cycle training they ever get is aged ten
> (helmets mandatory), and Michael passed that course independently aged
> eight.
It has been taught in class in public schools. In our town, at one
point, we even had an on-road session for the kiddies with a certified
_Effective Cycling_ instructor.
> >Oh, I guess not. You simply react to a poster like the bull in
> >front of the red cape.
>
> Oops, invalid assumption. What a surprise.
Describing your behavior is an "invalid assumption"? If you are
going to use a term, you might want to first learn what it means.
Well, looks like you are still acting like a fool, Guy, so you go
back into the timeout. I'm ignoring the rest of your rants today.
--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 02:19:17 GMT, [email protected] (Bill Z.)
> wrote in message <[email protected]>:
>
> >> I was recently visiting schools
> >> with my son who is choosing a high school. Every school we visited
> >> had posters promoting helmet use.
>
> >Posters and lions and tigers and bears, oh my. Get a grip, Guy.
>
> I have one, thanks - it provides me with the ability to appreciate the
> fatuity of the current monomaniacal focus on helmets as the be-all and
> end-all of cycle safety.
No, you need to get a grip - you are simply overreacting to absolute
trivia.
> I can provide any number of examples of helmet promotion, in a variety
> of contexts, but am having great difficulty thinking of a single
> example of any publicly funded promotion of any other cycle safety
> initiative or subject.
>
> >> Not one had a single poster promoting any other aspect of cycle
> >> safety. Do you believe that helmets are not just the single most
> >> important component of cycle safety, but so much so as to allow all
> >> others to be safely ignored? I don't think so.
>
> >Ever take a first aid course where they tell you, "first stop the
> >bleeding and keep him breathing"? It takes a few minutes at most to
> >learn how to fit and fasten a helmet, which would hopefully minimize
> >the damage if your kid crashes before learning how to ride
> >competently.
>
> You have that **** about face, as ever. First avoid the crash. Where
> is the massive campaign promoting cycle maintenance, conspicuity aids,
> correct use of lights, riding technique etc?
I'd say you've had next to zero experience with any sort of high-risk
activity and are completely clueless about how you go about protecting
your butt.
It takes less than a minute to learn how to fasten a helmet on properly.
Let's see how fast you can teach someone something meaningful about
"cycle maintenance, conspicuity aids, correct use of lights, riding
technique etc." You can put a poster anywhere. You can't realistically
schedule a class immediately, if only because the particpants may have
to bring their bikes.
> >Did it occur to you that they might teach how to cycle safely in
> >class, where more than the few seconds needed to digest a poster
> >could be applied to the subject?
>
> I suggest you devote some energy to acquiring a clue. Cycling is not
> taught in class. The only cycle training they ever get is aged ten
> (helmets mandatory), and Michael passed that course independently aged
> eight.
It has been taught in class in public schools. In our town, at one
point, we even had an on-road session for the kiddies with a certified
_Effective Cycling_ instructor.
> >Oh, I guess not. You simply react to a poster like the bull in
> >front of the red cape.
>
> Oops, invalid assumption. What a surprise.
Describing your behavior is an "invalid assumption"? If you are
going to use a term, you might want to first learn what it means.
Well, looks like you are still acting like a fool, Guy, so you go
back into the timeout. I'm ignoring the rest of your rants today.
--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB