jimmypop said:
What was said involved more than a general cycling discussion. This was after the L'Equipe story and the first of Walsh's books, and around the time of the SCA trial.
You may very well be right.. I don't know personally. I've already expressed my own opinion on whether LA doped or not so there is no need to re-visit that.
What I find bothersome however, is the number of people that basically start with the premise of:
"I can't stand/hate/dislike Lance Armstrong"
That's fine enough in itself, we're all free to like or dislike people as it suits us. Having said that, it seems to be the primary foundation of making him the target of why cycling has such an issue.
"He's the biggest doper ever". Yeah right, riders have been doping since the sport started with whatever they had available.
"He only won because of doping". Sure, along side all the other dopers he was racing (many of them officially sanctioned).
"It's a conspiracy, he's paid the "world" off to keep his cheating a secret". I don't think so.. he's big, but he's not that big.
"JB is the doping program king". Welll... what about all the other ds's that have actually had people caught????
"LA doesn't have enough integrity to admit it". As opposed to those that did AFTER they had been officially caught, or retired and decided to tell about it later? What about their integrity?
"Astana should not be in the tour". Because of Vino? Well Vino isn't there.. if the implication is that you can't have a team there that's had someone test positive, you might as well call the race off.
"He's an arrogant A**hole". I actually agree with that one.. which puts him in the same club as Cavendish, McEwen.. and I'm sure many others (in my opinion).
My most recent favorite was an almost instaneous (apparently) research of Radio Shack.. in which it was discovered that a CEO of that corporation committed a crime. LOL.. I'm sure all the other sponsors are completely clean in this respect (no I haven't looked).
It's just ridiculous the lengths that people will go to because they don't "like" someone. There are apparently a few people with an obsession problem regarding Lance Armstrong (both positive and negative I realize), and apparently have nothing more constructive to do than try to spread it.
What happened to objectivity. Whether he's good or bad, the only thing that seperates Lance from the vast majority of other riders is that he actually accomplished what he set out to do. Is that the basis for the dislike of him? I wonder (actually I don't... I think it has a lot to do with it).
None of this is directed specifically at you.