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[email protected]>, Tom Sherman wrote:
> Brent P wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>, Tom Sherman wrote:
>>> Brent P? wrote:
>>>> In article <[email protected]>, Tom Sherman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know where trucks actually go 55mph, but anyway... I just don't
>>>>>> have anyone come out of nowhere up on to my bumper when I move out to
>>>>>> pass. Sometimes it happens when I am cruising over to the right, but
>>>>>> generally those folks are doing over 100mph.
>>>>
>>>>> Well, the large trucks often do not move faster than that due to traffic.
>>>> Only when no one else is IME.
>>
>>> Well, in urban traffic the trucks generally move more slowly than the
>>> cars, due to slow acceleration.
>>
>> More slowly yes, 55mph or slower... when everyone else is. Then again I
>> live in an area where even the semis occasionally use the shoulder as a
>> passing lane.
>>
>>>>> Well, they are ignorant or badly behaved for driving slower than traffic
>>>>> in the middle and/or left lanes, but that does not excuse passing them
>>>>> on the right.
>>>> Excuse? Why does it have to be excused? It's not illegal and no way am I
>>>> going to give some LLB control freak the power to sit in the left lane
>>>> and force everyone else to go his chosen speed.
>>
>>> Illegal and wrong are two different things. Passing on the right is poor
>>> behavior, and if the legislature had some sense in the matter, it would
>>> be a moving violation (as would being a "left lane bandit"). Neither
>>> behavior would be tolerated in a civilized country.
>>
>> If the legislature cared about proper traffic flow it would have the keep
>> right except to pass law even stronger and ENFORCED at least as much as
>> 'speeding'. Instead what you are telling me, is that when I am driving
>> along at my chosen speed in the right most lane, that I should brake and
>> slow down because I catch up to some asshat driving slower in one of the
>> lanes to my left? That is rather assinine and would only be endorced by
>> someone trying to make a usenet score or a complete passing lane blocking
>> control freak asshole. Which one are you?
>>
> On a three lane road, the left lane is still available to pass.
Not around here and not in the example I gave earlier. there is someone
else camping in the left lane. The typical way an expressway clogs in
chicago area is a lot of vehicles stacked up in the left and middle lane
and just a couple in the right lane. I was one of those couple in the
general area when an asshat from the middle lane decided he couldn't have
someone get by.
>> Do you really want to empower someone going much slower than you want to
>> go blocking the whole road up legally by just choosing the left lane?
> No, I leave enough of a gap for people to get through on a two lane
> road, or pass on the left on a three lane. Two wrongs do not make a right.
So the middle lane dufus ducklings an LLB and you refuse to pass the
middle lane dufus and then another middle lane dufus comes a long and
seals the small gap you are telling me you leave for people to cut in
front of you and pass on the right... I do find that hard to believe
since you are against passing on the right and it's not normal to invite
drivers (especially ones a person considers poorly skilled) to cut over
in front of them.
>>>>> Passing on the right again?
>>>> Perfectly legal under IL law. Again why do you want to empower LLBs? Are
>>>> you one?
>>
>>> No, I spend as little time in the left lane as possible. But I will not
>>> pass on the right, even if some jerk is following me at a distance of 5
>>> feet.
>>
>> So when you are cruising along minding your own buisness and come across
>> some asshat LLBing, blocking the left lane, or any lane to your left, you
>> just brake or otherwise slow down so you won't pass him? Holy ****... do
>> you know what sort of chaos you are part of the cause of behind you?
> If people behind me are not following too closely, they will not have a
> problem. I slow done well in advance, so I do not have to brake. It is
> not my fault some moron is blocking traffic.
Nice... you use someone else as your excuse to bottle up traffic... why
were you driving faster than anyone to your left in the first place? to
catch up to some LLB so you could seal up the road?
Anyway it's not the initial braking that causes the chaos, it's the clump
that forms and gets real tight and people jockeying around trying to find
a way through the mess.
>> You're enabling the left lane blocker to create a moving road block.
>> Vehicles clumping up behind you.... even people going no faster than you
>> are getting caught in the clump. (remember, you slowed down not to pass
>> the LLB) No wonder you get flashed in the right lane. You're a total
>> asshole to people behind you. Someone who was happy to stay behind you
>> going the same speed you were going will get ****** off when you find
>> someone in the left lane to match speeds with and block up the road. He's
>> going to see that move as something done on purpose and totally assholish.
> Why, if they do not care about passing on the right, they can go around
> me to the left and pass the offending driver on the right if they so
> desire.
So you set a filter... guess what... someone is going to come up in the
middle lane and decide not to pass by moving right. Maybe the driver's an
idiot who fixates on the tail lamps in front of him... maybe he believes
like you. In either case the hole you left gets plugged. So what few
people could get through now can't.
> I have seen way too many people merge right without looking to
> risk passing on the right, and there is no way I would ever pass a truck
> or bus in their driver's blind spot on the right.
You wouldn't get anywhere around chicago driving like that unless you
decided to move so slowly that you never caught up to ANYONE.