wiredued said:I'm tweaking up my weekly TSS just wondering where the limit is for most people without over training.
Methinks your poll options are a bit low. If you just look at Coggan and Hunter's TSS descriptions folks should be able to do up to 150 with full recovery the following day. IOW even with a rest day per week 900 isn't out of reach and 600-700 is pretty reasonable.wiredued said:I'm tweaking up my weekly TSS just wondering where the limit is for most people without over training.
wiredued said:I'm tweaking up my weekly TSS just wondering where the limit is for most people without over training.
daveryanwyoming said:Methinks your poll options are a bit low. If you just look at Coggan and Hunter's TSS descriptions folks should be able to do up to 150 with full recovery the following day. IOW even with a rest day per week 900 isn't out of reach and 600-700 is pretty reasonable.
I've been stuck indoors on the trainer for almost two months now and I'm regularly accumulating 600 TSS per week or more. When the weather warms up I expext that number to go up since it's easy to accumulate TSS with time and harder to do long rides indoors on the trainer.
Look at it this way, 600 TSS per week riding 6 days per week is 100 TSS per day. If you do that with hour and a half rides that implies an average IF of ~.82. That's not hard to do with a warmup, a couple of SST intervals and a cooldown.
Thorman said:I never thought of myself as a cyborg, but according to your poll that's where I fall. I monitor rolling 7 and 28 day TSS totals. I've set my breaking point at 950 for 7d and 3000 for 28d.
wiredued said:Can you sustain this level a full year?
I'm on week seven of 600+ TSS weeks. You can really rack up the TSS points doing SST day after day.wiredued said:Can you sustain this level a full year?
I certainly won't continue with SST all year long, but I also won't spend all year indoors on the trainer doing hour and a half rides. Even though IF is squared in the TSS formula, its bounded by reality to a value close to 1. So time ends up being the dominant parameter for building up TSS. So later in the year rides will get more variable and work at higher levels will naturally decrease the duration of those workouts but other workouts will get a lot longer which results in higher TSS numbers.wiredued said:Do you mean to say you do this none stop all year long?
daveryanwyoming said:I certainly won't continue with SST all year long, but I also won't spend all year indoors on the trainer doing hour and a half rides. Even though IF is squared in the TSS formula, its bounded by reality to a value close to 1. So time ends up being the dominant parameter for building up TSS. So later in the year rides will get more variable and work at higher levels will naturally decrease the duration of those workouts but other workouts will get a lot longer which results in higher TSS numbers.
Last summer I did a lot of longer rides, mostly for fun since I hadn't taken the plunge and pulled my license out of retirement yet but I'd often spend four to six hours in the saddle on seventy to hundred plus mile rides. The IF for those rides hovered around .7, but the resulting TSS was 200 to 300. One of those a week plus three or four shorter rides and my weekly TSS hovered around 800.
I took a look at nearly 12 years of racing diaries from back in the day. I didn't have a power meter then, but I typically logged 14-18 hours a week riding. Assuming a low ball average IF of .65 that would still mean 600 - 700 TSS per week. I don't plan on training that many hours per week this year(those were the days when LSD was king) but I don't think 600 TSS per week is unrealistic. I'll keep ya posted.
-Dave
Just drop the "cy" and join the collective...frenchyge said:LOL! Anything over 500 tss/wk makes one a cyborg??
doctorSpoc said:500 is a bit low... i think the cyborg should be over ~1200 TSS per week... during a build i'm doing 12-13 hrs/wk and averaging about 700 TSS.. and i'm not doing 12-13hrs because that's all i can do, it's because it all the time i can afford to devote to cycling. back in the day i would do about 20-22 hrs a week.. no power meter back then so not sure what that meant in terms of TSS but i'm thinking i would have qualified as a cyborg back then even using my definition..
looking over my last year, my highest TSS day was 415 TSS...
Alex Simmons said:Just drop the "cy" and join the collective...
Resistance is futile....
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