whiteboytrash said:
They provided them right from the start but I don't think the Spanish police were interested in them....
The Spanish police was never really interested in the riders, they didn't even gave the information to ASO & co. It was a request of the French sport minister to give the list with riders and the Spanish sport (or interior..? i forgot about that) minister gave the list personally. I heard that the Guardia Civil wasn't really pleased about it because they haven't finished their investigation.
I am sick and tired of the way the media are covering the whole story. They write about evidence but they don't show the evidence. The German media for instance talk with team managers and other team representatives but
never ask the BIG questions.
Frommert (TM): "we have hard evidence"
Journalist: "..." (Says nothing).
No questions like:
WHAT EVIDENCE, can you show us something, can you tell us something.
Nothing!
And to many people in the circuit tell me that TM was affraid of bad publicity and 3 weeks full of questions about Jan and Fuentes. Now they are standing there with a face like "we are the good ones, we immediatly react". No word about that it's normally the crime that has to be proved and not the accused that has to proof his innocence. (TM is demnding that Jan proves his innocence) You won't here me say that Jan is innocent (i hope but i don't know), but you will hear me say that it's all about TM marketing and Jan didn't fit in TM's marketing strategie anymore.
No word about the dates on the JAN bloodbag (one of them is September, Jan didn't race from the Tour of Germany (August 2005) untill April 2006. Jan Hruska did race in september (he started for Liberty Seguros at the Tour of Poland) but you won't hear me say that JAN is Jan hruska, nobody knows who JAN is. BUT it doesn't really make sence to take blood doping in September 2005 when your first race is in April 2006. The sms messages of Pevenage to Fuentes aren't prooved either. The Guardia Civil writes in their report that it was a Belgian mobile number and one of the messages was signed with Rudicio so they
THINK it was Pevenage (but they
don't KNOW!). Another thing is the Guardia Civil confiscated the computer of Fuentes and started to investigate the Fuentes harddisk this week.
Like LA didn't had to do a DNA test after the L'equipe story (which is his right, otherwise we all will be stopped by the police one day and have to proof that we didn't rob the local bank..) Jan and Ivan don't have to do this either. No court in the democratic western world would convict anybody on the facts against Jan and Ivan that are known (at this time), a judge would laugh about it, a state prosecuter wouldn't even take the case to court.
Funny enough there are double standards here: more names are known (or better: the Guardia Civil think that they know-like with the published names) but are not mentioned in the media (the next time i get this angry i will probebly try to publish them, but no worries, my editor wil skip them again! We have a world cup soccer here and we paid a lot to cover the Tour).
Also funny enough: does anybody believe that the team doctors didn't know if they doped? The ds's? It was well known in Germany that Sinkewitz was working with Ferrari, it's even on the German Wikepedia (and not since yesterday:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrik_Sinkewitz ). The Süddeutsche Zeitung publishes a story about it and all over sudden Sinkewitz is not allowed to work with Ferrari anymore (again: it doesn't fit with TMs marketing strategie anymore - Ferrari out). Frommert lied on German TV yesterday that he had spoken about this with Sinkewitz and they had agreed that Sinkewitz wouldn't work with ferrari anymore, a bit dumm because shortly after that there was an interview with Sinkewitz who didn't know that they had agreed this. Than they came back to Frommert but don't worry (again), no journalist said.. but Mr. Frommert you just said you spoke about that with Patrick how come he didn't know? Most of the journalists (at least here in Germany) are doing a real bad job.
I don't know if Jan and others all (or some of them) are innocent, what i do know that it's not all like it seems. The whole case stinks (Mqaid: "the Guardia Civil can concentrate on Fuentes now, we know enough about the riders" - funny as there are still codenames where the Guardia Civil doesn't have a clue who these persons are...).
I will drive to the Tour again in about an hour. I am angry and will dig further!