58-year-old Dies while Mountain Biking!



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Mike Vandeman

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More evidence that mountain biking's alleged "health benefits" are
exaggerated. If you die, where is the net benefit???

Mike


Northrop Auditorium director dies while biking
Dale Schatzlein, 58, brought cutting-edge performers to Twin Cities
BY DAVE ORRICK
Pioneer Press

Dale Schatzlein, the longtime director of the University of
Minnesota's Northrop Auditorium who is credited with bringing
sophistication to Twin Cities audiences through modern dance and jazz,
died Thursday while mountain biking with friends in the Colorado
Rockies.

The athletic 58-year-old had run 18 marathons and cycled over mountain
passes on annual trips. The news that he appears to have died of a
heart attack shocked friends.

Services hadn't been finalized Saturday.

Schatzlein, who was born and raised in Minneapolis, had run the
performance hall since 1985 and was a fixture in the region's arts
scene.

He ran the theater's regular dance series and always was seeking to
bring new flavors of performances from around the globe to the Twin
Cities.

"I loved the fact that Dale was always open to new ideas from all over
the world," said Philip Bither, senior curator for performing arts for
the Walker Art Center.

As both friends and colleagues, Bither and Schatzlein often
collaborated in pulling in international dance troupes, from Russia's
famed Bolshoi Ballet to France's Lyon Opera Ballet to the Netherlands
Dance Theater to the Alvin Ailey Dance Company, a pre-eminent
African-American dance company. But he didn't seek only the best or
most renowned.

"It's built into the Walker's mission to take chances," Bither said.
"What Dale succeeded at was building a large subscription base for
five to seven events a year to bring dance to the mainstream. But that
didn't make him conservative or bottom-line oriented. When he wanted
to bring someone who was really pushing the edges, he would bring them
in."

During intermissions, Schatzlein would linger in the lobby and listen
to audience reactions, thus becoming a student of those he sought to
enlighten, friends said.

Not easily categorized, the impresario began his career in statistics
and balance sheets, armed with a bachelor's degree from the University
of Minnesota and a master's of business administration, friends said.

His curiosity led him to enjoy a spectrum of hobbies, from fantasy
football to Italian and French cuisine. He went so far as to study
under professional chefs to hone skills he used in his kitchen among
friends.

He is survived by life partner Emily Maltz, brother Greg, and sisters
Lynn Blank and Pam Luger.

Dave Orrick can be reached at [email protected].

or 651-228-2171.
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In article <[email protected]>,
Mike Vandeman <[email protected]> wrote:

> More evidence that mountain biking's alleged "health benefits" are
> exaggerated. If you die, where is the net benefit???
>
> Mike


Hate these sensationalistic, unhelpful and unscientific conclusions.

Sick... Die!
--
 
Artoi wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Mike Vandeman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>More evidence that mountain biking's alleged "health benefits" are
>>exaggerated. If you die, where is the net benefit???
>>


If one does not mountain bike, perhaps, one will not die?

PH
 
Mike Vandeman wrote:
> More evidence that mountain biking's alleged "health benefits" are
> exaggerated. If you die, where is the net benefit???
>
> Mike
>
>
> Northrop Auditorium director dies while biking
> Dale Schatzlein, 58, brought cutting-edge performers to Twin Cities
> BY DAVE ORRICK
> Pioneer Press
>
> Dale Schatzlein, the longtime director of the University of
> Minnesota's Northrop Auditorium who is credited with bringing
> sophistication to Twin Cities audiences through modern dance and jazz,
> died Thursday while mountain biking with friends in the Colorado
> Rockies.
>
> The athletic 58-year-old had run 18 marathons and cycled over mountain
> passes on annual trips. The news that he appears to have died of a
> heart attack shocked friends.
>
> Services hadn't been finalized Saturday.
>
> Schatzlein, who was born and raised in Minneapolis, had run the
> performance hall since 1985 and was a fixture in the region's arts
> scene.
>
> He ran the theater's regular dance series and always was seeking to
> bring new flavors of performances from around the globe to the Twin
> Cities.
>
> "I loved the fact that Dale was always open to new ideas from all over
> the world," said Philip Bither, senior curator for performing arts for
> the Walker Art Center.
>
> As both friends and colleagues, Bither and Schatzlein often
> collaborated in pulling in international dance troupes, from Russia's
> famed Bolshoi Ballet to France's Lyon Opera Ballet to the Netherlands
> Dance Theater to the Alvin Ailey Dance Company, a pre-eminent
> African-American dance company. But he didn't seek only the best or
> most renowned.
>
> "It's built into the Walker's mission to take chances," Bither said.
> "What Dale succeeded at was building a large subscription base for
> five to seven events a year to bring dance to the mainstream. But that
> didn't make him conservative or bottom-line oriented. When he wanted
> to bring someone who was really pushing the edges, he would bring them
> in."
>
> During intermissions, Schatzlein would linger in the lobby and listen
> to audience reactions, thus becoming a student of those he sought to
> enlighten, friends said.
>
> Not easily categorized, the impresario began his career in statistics
> and balance sheets, armed with a bachelor's degree from the University
> of Minnesota and a master's of business administration, friends said.
>
> His curiosity led him to enjoy a spectrum of hobbies, from fantasy
> football to Italian and French cuisine. He went so far as to study
> under professional chefs to hone skills he used in his kitchen among
> friends.
>
> He is survived by life partner Emily Maltz, brother Greg, and sisters
> Lynn Blank and Pam Luger.
>
> Dave Orrick can be reached at [email protected].
>
> or 651-228-2171.


The deceased sounds like a hell of a guy. Why don't you crank-call his
widow and/or picket his funeral, you pathetic puke?

Bill "Google 'hiker deaths' for more laughs" S.
 
On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 00:55:06 GMT, Artoi <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> Mike Vandeman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> More evidence that mountain biking's alleged "health benefits" are
>> exaggerated. If you die, where is the net benefit???
>>
>> Mike

>
>Hate these sensationalistic, unhelpful and unscientific conclusions.


You mean you hate hearing the truth? Because that's all I wrote. If
you want science, SUPPLY some, instead of just criticizing. (Of course
that means REAL science, not IMBA-style JUNK science.)
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On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 21:34:22 -0400, pmhilton <[email protected]> wrote:

>Artoi wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> Mike Vandeman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>More evidence that mountain biking's alleged "health benefits" are
>>>exaggerated. If you die, where is the net benefit???
>>>

>
>If one does not mountain bike, perhaps, one will not die?


Yes, he would probably still be alive.

>PH

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In article <[email protected]>,
Mike Vandeman <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 00:55:06 GMT, Artoi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> > Mike Vandeman <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> More evidence that mountain biking's alleged "health benefits" are
> >> exaggerated. If you die, where is the net benefit???
> >>
> >> Mike

> >
> >Hate these sensationalistic, unhelpful and unscientific conclusions.

>
> You mean you hate hearing the truth? Because that's all I wrote. If
> you want science, SUPPLY some, instead of just criticizing. (Of course
> that means REAL science, not IMBA-style JUNK science.)


From a population's point of view, exercise is good and important.
That's a fact and not worth disputing. But taking it on an individual's
basis, one's preexisting condition may not be compatible with current
exercise regime. The net benefit is there, but it's bad form to use a
single person's adverse event to scaremonger exercise/biking in general.
--
 
"Bill Sornson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> The deceased sounds like a hell of a guy. Why don't you crank-call his
> widow and/or picket his funeral, you pathetic puke?
>
> Bill "Google 'hiker deaths' for more laughs" S.


Hey Bill,

At least this guy has a family to mourn his death.
 
Mike Vandeman wrote:
> More evidence that mountain biking's alleged "health benefits" are
> exaggerated. If you die, where is the net benefit???
>
> Mike
>


He died of a heart attack.
That can happen during any kind of exercise.
I presume that you are a fat turd that never exercises?
If so, then you also can die due to the excess fat.
If not, then you also can die from a heart attack while doing your
exercise.

Some of your posts make you look like an idiot.
That will not help your cause.
 
Mike Vandeman wrote:

>On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 21:34:22 -0400, pmhilton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Artoi wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>> Mike Vandeman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>More evidence that mountain biking's alleged "health benefits" are
>>>>exaggerated. If you die, where is the net benefit???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

>>If one does not mountain bike, perhaps, one will not die?
>>
>>

>
>Yes, he would probably still be alive.
>
>
>

Thank you Dr. Vandeman, MD, for your expert medical opinion.....be
certain to let the Colorado M. E. know about it...I'm sure he'd be
clueless otherwise. Now you're certain it wasn't the running of
marathons? Or the love of french and italian cuisine? Or an underlying
medical condition? And please, for the rest of us poor medical
laypersons, detail the signs, symptoms and general progression of this
horrible disease that apparently you are so medically qualified to
diagnose that you can assess it as the cause of death from a newspaper
clipping and not have to examine the remains.

Michael Halliwell
 
CanopyCo wrote:
> Mike Vandeman wrote:
>
>>More evidence that mountain biking's alleged "health benefits" are
>>exaggerated. If you die, where is the net benefit???
>>
>>Mike
>>

>
>
> He died of a heart attack.
> That can happen during any kind of exercise.
> I presume that you are a fat turd that never exercises?
> If so, then you also can die due to the excess fat.
> If not, then you also can die from a heart attack while doing your
> exercise.
>


> Some of your posts make you look like an idiot.
> That will not help your cause.


Some?
 
On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:45:21 GMT, Michael Halliwell
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Mike Vandeman wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 21:34:22 -0400, pmhilton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Artoi wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>>> Mike Vandeman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>More evidence that mountain biking's alleged "health benefits" are
>>>>>exaggerated. If you die, where is the net benefit???
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>If one does not mountain bike, perhaps, one will not die?
>>>
>>>

>>
>>Yes, he would probably still be alive.
>>
>>
>>

>Thank you Dr. Vandeman, MD, for your expert medical opinion.....be
>certain to let the Colorado M. E. know about it...I'm sure he'd be
>clueless otherwise. Now you're certain it wasn't the running of
>marathons? Or the love of french and italian cuisine? Or an underlying
>medical condition? And please, for the rest of us poor medical
>laypersons, detail the signs, symptoms and general progression of this
>horrible disease that apparently you are so medically qualified to
>diagnose that you can assess it as the cause of death from a newspaper
>clipping and not have to examine the remains.


Why do YOU think he died? I notice that you decline to say, because
you'd then have to admit that the mountain biking was the ost likely
cause of his death. It's OBVIOUS!

>Michael Halliwell

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On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 06:12:14 GMT, Artoi <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> Mike Vandeman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 00:55:06 GMT, Artoi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <[email protected]>,
>> > Mike Vandeman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> More evidence that mountain biking's alleged "health benefits" are
>> >> exaggerated. If you die, where is the net benefit???
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >
>> >Hate these sensationalistic, unhelpful and unscientific conclusions.

>>
>> You mean you hate hearing the truth? Because that's all I wrote. If
>> you want science, SUPPLY some, instead of just criticizing. (Of course
>> that means REAL science, not IMBA-style JUNK science.)

>
>From a population's point of view, exercise is good and important.
>That's a fact and not worth disputing. But taking it on an individual's
>basis, one's preexisting condition may not be compatible with current
>exercise regime. The net benefit is there,


Simply asserting that doesn't make it true. Prove that there is a NET
benefit from mountain biking (that couldn't be gotten by hiking or
other exercise)! You CAN'T. That's because mountain biking is one of
the most dangerous activities. People die or get seriously injured
from it all the time.

but it's bad form to use a
>single person's adverse event to scaremonger exercise/biking in general.

===
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humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

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On 4 Sep 2006 07:05:10 -0700, "CanopyCo" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Mike Vandeman wrote:
>> More evidence that mountain biking's alleged "health benefits" are
>> exaggerated. If you die, where is the net benefit???
>>
>> Mike
>>

>
>He died of a heart attack.
>That can happen during any kind of exercise.


But it didn't. He didn't die from running marathons. He died from
MOUNTAIN BIKING. Face the facts!

>I presume that you are a fat turd that never exercises?
>If so, then you also can die due to the excess fat.
>If not, then you also can die from a heart attack while doing your
>exercise.
>
>Some of your posts make you look like an idiot.
>That will not help your cause.

===
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humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

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http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
 
I heard that Marina City Councilman Ken Gray has been trying to give
Fort Ord land (promised for Fort Ord Dunes State Park near Monterey,
CA) to the town of Seaside, for private development, via a back room
deal. Does anyone know any more about this? If true, this is a pretty
reprehensible abuse of public lands.
===
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Mike Vandeman wrote:
It's OBVIOUS!


Your opinion that a given conclusion is obvious is very nearly worthless
as an assumption uless some form of mental rigor is brought to bear. In
this instance, you have brought nothing to the discussion but a single
hastily formed opinion. Make all the claims you wish. In support of that
opinion you must offer objective data & logically sound reasoning. You
have offered neither.

Seems to me this fundamental lack, along with your monomaniacle
androgeny has been mentioned hundreds of times by scores of posters.

PH
 
Mike Vandeman wrote:

>
> But it didn't. He didn't die from running marathons. He died from
> MOUNTAIN BIKING. Face the facts!



Even though he died DURING mountain biking, there is no proof that he
died FROM mountain biking. Many THOUSANDS of individuals engage in all
levels of mountain biking; while a handful may have died DURING that
activity there is no proof that the activity itself was to blame.

PH
 
"Mike Vandeman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 4 Sep 2006 07:05:10 -0700, "CanopyCo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>Mike Vandeman wrote:
>>> More evidence that mountain biking's alleged "health benefits" are
>>> exaggerated. If you die, where is the net benefit???
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>

>>
>>He died of a heart attack.
>>That can happen during any kind of exercise.

>
> But it didn't. He didn't die from running marathons. He died from
> MOUNTAIN BIKING. Face the facts!
>
>>I presume that you are a fat turd that never exercises?
>>If so, then you also can die due to the excess fat.
>>If not, then you also can die from a heart attack while doing your
>>exercise.
>>
>>Some of your posts make you look like an idiot.
>>That will not help your cause.

> ===
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
> fond of!
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande


mv stoops to even lower levels to try and justify his phobic
ranting....Still a sad old vindictive ****** I see, mikey.

Andy H
 
Off topic.

Mike Vandeman wrote:
> I heard that Marina City Councilman Ken Gray has been trying to give
> Fort Ord land (promised for Fort Ord Dunes State Park near Monterey,
> CA) to the town of Seaside, for private development, via a back room
> deal. Does anyone know any more about this? If true, this is a pretty
> reprehensible abuse of public lands.
> ===
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande