Get the Junk Mail, tons of bikes for sale in there. Trick is to find someone who bought a bike for the argus or something similar, roda it 5 times and then wanted to get rid of it. Things to keep in mind are where in the range bikes are, where in the range their groupsets are etc. For the bottom of the range Trek (1000) or Giant (damn, can't remember) you shouldn't have to pay more than R3500 (2 yrs old), but then you will only get Sora groupset which isn't great. Main thing to find out is your frame size (go to a bike shop as if buying and find out what frame sizes are right for you on various bikes, can be different from bike to bike). If you haven't read the other thread re buying a bike then other thing to remember is that the shimano group sets go as follows: Sora, Tiagra, 105... (the rest are probably outside your price range). <br /><br />P.s. Anything with a strange name or parts you don't recognise, come to the guys here and find out.<br /><br />p.p.s. don't go much older than 2/3 yrs, the parts have improved a lot in the last few years<br /><br />p.p.p.s. Keep us posted, we like knowing we've helped